anne gearan, michael steele, bob shrum, alex seitz-wald. first to bob shrum in california, you've seen a lot of campaign, candidates. what is your response to what you heard today? >> well, i thought you did a great job and it was a great interview. the e-mails are a self-inflicted wound that represent a monthly blood letting politically with every release of a traunch of those e-mails. she is too lawyerly. she's still too lawyerly. the fact that the first words out of her mouth are not, i'm really sorry about this, and instead we're still hearing about convenience, which is not convincing as you demonstrated. it's just a mistake. when you asked her about a authentici authenticity, i mean, you know, she could -- nk is fine. we have all the organization in place and we're doing this in iowa and that, why can't you just say, smile and say, well, look, maybe i can do better and i will. i teach now at the university of southern california and my students wanted to have a discussion, 40 of them the other day, about the race. and i asked how many

let's get to alex seitz wald. when she sat down with andrea mitchell in the last week "i'm sorry." damage control, is it clearly causing what her campaign is thinking not good things. >> right, richard. well, i do think this is definitely very significant. i mean, we first found out about her use of a private e-mail server for official business back in march. and she has defended it. she said it was all above board. she has, until now, refused to apologize for it. she's gotten a little bit closer, and with andrea mitchell onned from she walked right up to the line saying she was sorry for the confusion about the e-mails, but pointedly after andrea asked her numerous time, she refused to apologize. just yesterday in an interview with the ap, she suggested she had nothing to apologize for. so i do think this is part of an effort to clear the deck and put the story behind her. >> is it over? >> well, it's certainly not over yet. it's a first step that they need to make, and they know that. but there's so much of this

i'm now on agenda on the phone by alex seitz-wald. for many of us who are following this, this is a significant contrast clinton is making with this white house about the issue of the keystone pipeline. did we say any more of that from her on the campaign trail today? >> reporter: no more distancing from the white house today. but i was definitely surprised by how forceful and how willing she was to put a contrast between her and the white house last night. i think this reflects some real frustration on her part. for years she has been asked dozens of times and twist herself into knots trying to not answer questions about the keystone pipeline. at first it was useful when she didn't want to have to answer questions on the pipeline but i think now she would like to put this issue behind her and not continue facing questions about it. just today, at an event this afternoon, there are protestors holding up signs saying no kxl on it. it may have been a moment of letting her frustrations speak for itself. >> jeb bush has just taken stage in

let's bring in msnbc reporter alex seitz-wald and politico's ken vogel. alex, you first here.h this new poll. but does it represent the overall trajectory of hillary clinton's numbers? >> yeah. as marc said, we'll have to wait and see if this poll is an outlier. there's a long way to go. but no doubt that hillary clinton isn't in the position that she was at the beginning of the summer. she's fallen back down to earth as just a run of the mill front-runner instead of the completely ahistorical indomitable candidate. she's looking more like al gore when bill bradley pulled ahead or john kerry didn't come up until december of 2003 in the 2004 democratic prior. this is definitely different from what we expected. we thought she might just have a clear path to the nomination. and she's facing a tough challenge from bernie sanders. but she has plenty of time to turn this around. >> ken, we have hillary clinton doing more interviews over this past week than during the entire presidential campaign thus far. she's going to be on "ellen" later today and apparently showing off her dancin

alex seitz-wald covers the clinton campaign.rivals would love to be a smoking gun out there but doesn't seem to be. >> no, francis, no smoking gun. there is that e-mail about "parks and recreation," another one about gefilte fish and where hillary clinton complains about the number of snow days the government takes. the most interesting e-mail is, francis, huma abedin makes it clear that the help desk at the state department had no idea apparently that clinton was using a private e-mail server. interesting but not exactly explosive. >> not explosive even with the frustration the aides shared about having to deal with those e-mails in a private server. donald trump right away sending a tweet hammering clinton over this latest e-mail release. he says this, 150 clinton e-mails still contain classified information. more sensitive when she was secretary of state. this is a big deal. all right. that number actually 125 e-mails that were subsequently classified but they weren't when the e-mails were sent or received. that classificatio

. >> let me bring in msnbc's alex seitz-wald and steve clemens of "the atlantic."ajor event since serious talk began after him jumping into the race. are you seeing him gearing up for a jump into the campaign? >> no political talk from jb jb today. >> no political talk from joe biden today. he side he knew a lot of the jewish leaders in the room, that you can't find a better defender of israel than joe biden which could potentially be of import if he decided to run in 2016. and he came at this as a skeptic. he's a friend of bibi netanyahu. but this fits in with biden's defense of the obama legacy. that's what he'll be looking at. if hillary clinton moves too far away from that, he might decide he needs to try to keep her in line on that. >> and the administration scored a major victory yesterday in the senate. >> that's right. barbara mikulski came out in support of the iran deal which now gives the white house a freedom from a veto override. this deal will go forward and everyone knows it now. now it's just a question of how many other senators will join up. >> ta

alex seitz-wald joins us. more humor than heart. what does that mean? >> reporter: tamron, there comes a point in every campaign when the going becomes a little bit more rough and they're trying to get the strategists and the polls out of the way. but you don't want it to come quite this early. clinton had a rough summer. she went from being the questionable, dominant frontrunner who basically had frozen out to seeing her numbers drop 10 points. and you have bernie sanders who did not even expect himself to be in this position, giving her a real run for their money. so on one hand, we'll see her being more humorous, more human, perhaps, less calculated, more accessible. she had an interview with andrea mitchell on friday, she has aner into with the ap this weekend and she's sitting down with us today and with jimmy fallon. she will be making no more jokes. >> a big question in the race, will joe biden jump in? he rallied at a labor day parade in pittsburgh yesterday and you could hear a chorus of supporters chanting, run, joe, run as he made his way thr

alex seitz-wald on the road, thank you for that update. we're turning to erin mcpike and kathlyn parker. thank you both for joining. >> thank you for having us. >> kathleen, let's start with you. you look at this, obviously, there have been a range of controversies on the trump campaign. this one, though srks a well-worn subject and whatever you think of how to correct the people you hear from, he has what people say is a problematic record on this very issue. >> it is interesting donald trump such a big-mouth, says whatever pops into his mouth, decided to be careful with the phrasing in this instance and, you know, instead of saying, look, you know, instead of taking the mccain approach and correcting him, he says things like we are going to be looking into that. there are things going on and we'll look into that. you know, when you're careful like that and trying not to alienate bigots you might be a bigot. just saying. >> do you think this is something that some of these conservative voters or even a subset of maybe nonconservatives and

. >> vaughan, thank you for, that and now we go to alex seitz-wald, and he is there in new hampshire, the crowd, and the crowd is to be hearing from bernie sanders and how long until he takes to the podium? >> well, the crowd is going to be tougher than the one that hillary clinton faced, because one quarter of the crowd ois gone. the thing is that they buy ticket tickets for supporters and bus them up from all over the place, and bring them here, and after hillary clinton spoke, a lot of the supporters left, and the room is more empty, and that said, bernie sanders an incredible run here, and the last six polls have showed him up, and average of ten points, and the supporters are fired u, and extremely enthusiastic, and even though there is a smaller number, i expect a big response, but one thing we highlight from hillary clinton's speech when she praised barack obama, and no doubt that the democrats love barack obama here, but look at what she had to say, and then we will discuss it here on the other side. >> under his leadership and thanks to the sacrifice of so many americans, we