and alex stamos is the director of the stanford university internet observatory and a former facebook insider. thank you both for coming on and talking us through this. chris, what are the different ways that you frame this story of extremism in america? >> yeah. thanks for having me on, brian, good morning. and alex, good morning to you over on the other side of the country. well, you know, when you see last week's events and we think about what might be happening in state capitols across the country right now, it is important to realize that we're not talking about a single block of activists and insurrectionists. there are factions. and, so, the frame work that i think about with the current challenge is is there is a set of actors or players on the field that are engaging. there is a sense of influencers driving them and seeking their own objectives. there is a series of america nichls using to coordinate and communicate. and, so, through these four different lenses or approaches, you can get a better understanding of really what's happening. so with those actors, there is a spect

alex stamos will weigh in on social media's actions over the last 24 hours. and later we will hear from the ceo of the national retail federation who called yesterday a sad and distressing day for our country. you are watching "closing bell." >>> let's go to mike for a look at market action study in strength. we bobbed up around ,800 in the s&p 500 in the morning motionly sideways, an upward tilt in the last few minutes a. two year chart to show in the past couple of years we have entered the year in a similar steady orderly up trend ofs that 3% gut check in late january last year and we were coming off the low in early 2019. very similar we also talked about how the market kind of sat still on an index basis through much of december into this year and allowed some of the overheated stuff to cool off. today it is a faang mega cap-led move f. those stocks which have remained sideways for months catch a breeze it could get the market moving again. this goes back to the mid '90s i like the fact we are basically on a relative basis looking at historic lows. tech

a man called alex stamos, said this. >> it's really hard because people are able to seek out informationt makes them feel good. people have so much choice now, they can choose whether use sources are and they can choose what influencers they want to follow. there are people on youtube for example that have a larger audience than daytime cnn and they are extremely radical in pushing extremely radical views. >> tucker: so in the name of democracy which is clearly the term of the moment, in defense of the people's will must censor people and make certain that individuals can't read and hear what they choose to read and hear. at least they are being honest about it. information is power and they want the power so therefore they must controlled information, so they are. that's what's happening. we told you a moment ago that nobody seems to be fighting back against this tide of oppression. rupert murdoch won an award from the foundation in the u.k. and here is part of what he said when he accepted. "for those of us in the media there is a real challenge to confront a wave of censorship that se

cnn, msnbc, we also have this story, former facebook security chief alex stamos telling cnn's brian steltert&t, the media should flat-out deplatform the networks one america and newsmax. your thoughts about that? >> well let me start with the corporate media. clearly they're piggybacking crisis to consolidate power. when cnn and other liberal corporate media elites saw conservatives could be deplatformed on apple, facebook, et cetera, with low blow back, they saw this opportunity to essentially consolidate power, protect their business practices to shape opinion in a one opinion world. elizabeth: okay. so the freedom to speak your right too free speech is way more important than anybody on the left trying to ban you or can sell you. that is what conservatives are saying. we understand facebook and private companies don't have to abide by free speech. they're allowed to put up what they want on their mat form but for this top former facebook insider to say this on cnn is quite astonishing. let's roll the tape. watch this. >> there needs to be an intentional work by the social media companies

former facebook security chief alex stamos says standards though have not been entirely clear. >> one of the problems has been that the companies have not publicly announced the red lines of that -- if somebody crossed them such as the president that they would enforce and i think that's something that is going to have to change because the fact that they are making these decisions in reaction to the president's activity and to people on the other political side means that they're going to be a constant political football >> reporter: and now social platforms are drawing growing scrutiny for their role for fomenting violence and planning events such as yesterday's riot. a group on facebook called red state secession told us 8,000 members to be prepared to use force. facebook's been criticized for not shutting it down sooner. senator warner saying of these efforts to silence the president, quote, these platforms have served as core organizing infrastructure for violent far right groups and militia movements for several ye years now and michelle obama posting now is the time for silicon

. >> alexis, regulation question this came from something that alex stamos who ran security for facebookw if any laws are broken this time, but reddit now has a problem. it is the home for a community of hundreds of thousands of people who have demonstrated the ability to move billions of dollars at the urging of most a couple of dozen anonymous accounts what do you make of that what does that mean? >> well, so i'm definitely out of my depth in terms of the regulatory standpoint. i can't speak for reddit as i said from jump, this is new territory and i think the thing that the american public on the whole wants is to know that these systems, especially the -- one of the most powerfully argued in the country, which is finance, is one that is -- and i love hearing -- i'm surprised that i heard the word regulation already, but that is being regulated and being governed and looking out for americans, regular folks. many feel like it hasn't. >> what joe mentioned -- go ahead. >> quelwell, and at the end of day we're seeing emerging decentralized technology, we talked about cryptocurrencies. t