"the washington times" legal effects reporter alex swoyer and founder ceo and senior partner from gencoat to have you both. 5611, the city of los angeles has responded to the removal of sidewalks and other public areas owned or managed or obtained by the city. these public areas must remain sick safe, clean, sanitary for public use by all individuals. is there something wrong with that law? >> well, this one's got me going tonight. i'm going to tell you why. and trying cases i it was decided a things, one, there are bad lawsuits prayed i don't like lawsuits because i'm a defense lawyer but they're also bad laws. if this is a bad law. a 56.11 is a los angeles law that can only made up in los angeles. i can say that, i went to law school there, i practice there. this is why. this law, the focus of this law is so that homeless folks can only have on the possession or in public space something weighing 60 pounds with a lid on it in a container. mike, i don't know what fla thinks this property broke brothers. but this is the big uncaring of hard time this is a dumb law regardless grade >> mi