ukraine - alexander avrilyevich, tell me, are there any attempts on the part of the west and nato, which, by the way, are headquartered in brussels, attempts to withdraw and, maybe unofficially for some kind of dialogue, have you received any similar signals recently? no, we do not have a dialogue with nato, now, uh, as i have said many times, there is an understanding that there are channels. the pope’s words that ukraine should have the courage to start negotiations, the pontiff was criticized not only by zelensky, but also by the nato leadership. it is obvious that pope francis said what many here are thinking, what many are thinking but are afraid to say out loud, exactly what continuation of confrontation with russia is futile; we know from history that any attempts. uniting a european state on the basis of confrontation with russia has always ended in failure, if not tragedy, many times in history, throughout the nineteenth and 20th centuries, and the only possibility of ensuring the security of the european continent lies in respecting the principle of equal and shared security in