alexander hamilton wanted to charge forward. lin-manuel: alexander hamilton left behind 27 volumes. less than two. the tragedy of the show is, at the moment when burr is reckless and let's go and hamilton is cautious, one kills the other. thomas kail: hamilton knew they would be bound forever to read that would ensure his legacy as someone had to be spoken about, he becomes slightly obsolete. some buddy who had thought about death so much. here he was, toward the end, not empowered or able to effect change. we talked early on. it is a credit of the writing. we have seen a lot of stories about to enemies. let's make a story about two people who were dear and complex friends and one kills his friend. lin-manuel: who were soldiers, lawyers, statesmen together. charlie: you thought about playing burr? lin-manuel: every time i wrote a song, i thought, i should do it. he gets all the best songs of the show. now, you cannot imagine. it really fits leslie. he gets these wonderful moments. one my favorites being the room where it happens. he is talking about not in power. scene hamilton trad

. >> rose: alexander hamilton is the unlikely founding father who wrote hi)of early american history. roosevelt called him the most brilliant statesman who ever lived. he is the subject of the musical hamilton at the public theatre in new york. writer and composer lin-manuel miranda takes hamilton's legacy to new hiatal using hip-hop rnb and music. here's a look. ♪ ♪ like my country ♪ and i'm not throwing away my future. ♪ i'm not throwing away my future ♪ and i'm not throwing away my future. going to die ♪ we're going to rise ♪ we're going to rise uprise up ♪ ♪ ♪ throwing away my future. i'm not throwing away my future. hamilton hamilton ♪ are you not throwing away my socks. >> rose: joining me now is the writer exezer and the director thomas kail. hamilton is moved to broadway this summer. i'm pleased to have both of them at this table. welcome. it could not be better, could it? not being here but the response to this. it is really remark many. who is coming, everybody wants the hot ticket in town ever wants to come. the critics crave by it. two guests on my show peggy noonen over t

the new york post was founded by alexander hamilton in 1801.ury new york post is one that believes in heroes and villains and is at its dramatic best when one of its heroes is in a fight with one of its vailillains. last week they got a story they've been waiting for since the start of de blasio's administration. one was in open warfare with mayor de blasio. the story made the front page with the headline brass bawls. bawl meaning to shout or call out noisily or unrestrainedly according to the oxford dictionary. the first line of the story, top cop bill bratton has finally reached his breaking point with mayor bill de blasio. then comes the dramatic in the room account of bratten enton reaching his breaking point. he exploded with rage to get funding for 1,000 more cops before storming out of city hall. the post has learned. if i don't get them from you, i'll go to the city council and get them bratton parked at the anthony shoreis. but deblasio's right hand man refused to back down during the discussion over the nypd's budget. you don't work f

alexander hamilton. the opening number. >> before we see that. >> yes. >> is that what the president responded to when he said geithner should see this. >> yeah i told the a essentialed auses yens this is the my first time performing the song in public. she asked me to perform something from the in heights and i said i have 16 bars about the first treasury secretary. and they allowed me to close out the show with that. and his response was somebody got to get geithner in here. because you know. >> he thought of geithner as a hamilton? >> i think he had a quote at that time because the economic crisis had just everything had just blown up. and he said quitener's got the hardest job as treasury secretary since alexander hamilton. i think that was his quote on the record about what geithner had ahead of him this was very early in obama's administration. he performed in may 2009. so they were just rigging out-- figuring out how to do this thing. how to get us out of the hole we were in. so i think he was tic

>> alexander hamilton was born, possibly out of wedlock. father split by the time he was 10 years old. his mother died in bed with him issue -- a few short years later. his brother was apprenticed to a blacksmith and was by himself. he got sent to live with the cousin after their death. the cousin killed himself. he got put in charge and was a clerk for a trading company that traded rom and slaves. there is the key point. he had wrote his way off the island. he described the carnage saying that he saw sites that were astonished for angels. people took up a fund to get him in education. charlie: we have a character that is a great american. there is drama that he dies at the individual which he may not have fired his gun. lots of different -- all right. you have translated that story and do so much more. tell me about the ideas that you want to pour into this to make it a new look. the founding fathers, the american experience? the different way of presenting it that would appeal to young people because they are young actors. >> you speak to

they surrounded the state house and alexander hamilton who was chairman of the congressional committee to deal with this mutiny that had been going on now for five days got the president of congress to call a special session and the congress went into the building because hamilton and congress wanted it to appear that this was a demonstration against the united states of america. this was the horror of republics, military rising against civilian control. and that the appeal to the american people seeing this would come to the defense of congress. so congress, even though it did not get a quarm, congress was not surrounded by these troops, sent a representative up and asked the president or governor if you will of pennsylvania the great john dickenson to call up the philadelphia militia to drive the continental soldiers away from the building. dickenson looked at the congressman who had come up and said are you nuts? do you think that militia of philadelphia is going to take up arms against the men that won independence? that's not going to happen. nobody has been harmed. this is just a

alexander hamilton had a very bad case but survived.hat was part of the torment but the real torment for washington was to see that his friends and the men he respected, instead of coming together to make a new form of government, were falling apart into two parties. he would never have believed that jefferson and madison and hamilton would become enemies of one another and that they would do everything they could to keep each other out of office instead of working together. host: before we leave this section, we will work our way through earlier parts of her life -- you mentioned adams. martha washington had a relationship with abigail adams. i was tickled to find out there was almost a sisterhood of revolutionary ladies. who was in that and how did they interact? patricia: they really had a lot in common. there were both wives who were partners. they were not wives who were stuck and left out of everything. they were both deeply committed to the idea of this new republic. that is something they cared about. it was political in that se

thomas jefferson didn't like alexander hamilton at all.ne of the things he couldn't stand about hamilton was the ostentation of the department of the treasury that they had an entire, i think more than one but an entire townhouse, the department of treasury filled with rooms and with records and cabinets, this room and that room and jefferson kept all the records of secretary state in a desk of the department of state. the idea of a federalúyq core with a neighborhood periphery didn't enter into it. all defense of the city in 1799 wasn't about defending the rivers. nobody fathomed someone powerful would come over. he couldn't fathom the need to protect against underground biochemical attacks. l'enfant wrote about it at a democratic gathering space. providing that expansive western vista and punctuated by a statue of washington. he didn't imagine that. of course, he couldn't imagine the narrowing down of the potomac river as well. given these silences and to return to the original question, what degree of allegiance do we owe him, begging t

john jay, james madison, alexander hamilton, many others -- they debated, studied and looked at past democracies and determined we needed a representative republic with checks and balances so one side could not usurp the other and even divided further among the branches. when you hear complaints about

alexander hamilton loved the ladies, and they returned his interest.t one point in the war -- this is before hamilton married betsy schuyler -- martha had an amorous tomkat -- tomcat that she named hamilton in tribute to the future secretary of the treasury. host: i'm going to move to another question. [laughter] this is from tom, of all things from bethesda, maryland. caller: there was a special relationship between george washington and the marquis de lafayette. how did martha washington get along with the marquis the lafayette and his family? patricia: he was another of the young men that she became a mother to. when he came, he was although , the richest man in france, he was one of the most unhappy. he was escaping persecution by his in-laws and by the court and he came there as a young man. he was 18 years old when she finally met him. she saw him as another son. she treated him that way. he loved it. he saw a part of that as what america was like, where people could be made over and he could be made over. richard: he also was one of the many obs

charlie: alexander hamilton is the unlikely founding father who became part of american history.led him the most brilliant statesman who ever lived. writer and composer lin-manuel miranda takes his legacy to new heights using hip-hop and music. >> ♪

this is alexander hamilton. he really belongs with madison and jefferson and franklin. maybe john adams. kind of the five most powerful minds of this american generation. hamilton, of course, is famous for giving the speech on june 18, which is a famous speech. it astonishes everyone. hamilton, in fact, was not all that active a delegate in philadelphia. much more important was madison's -- as madison's co-author of "the federalist." hamilton kind of goes back and forth. back to new york during the convention. he goes back to his family. major figure. maybe less the constitution but as america's great state builder. madison of course -- here are two other princeton guys. luther martin. and william paterson. martin will be the attorney for maryland in the great case of mcculloch. he gives a great speech protecting states rights. madison's basic impression was -- [speaking latin] if you can translate? >> alcohol? [laughter] he may have had to go on a bender in order to talk. harrison, the son of scottish immigrants. the revolution gives him an opportunity. he serves on the

"alexander hamilton working up from st. croix..." "how strange you are..." "their eyes blown out, for love! for love!" "carefully tying, carefully" "the modern town disembodied roar" "and the guys from paterson beat up the guys from..." "but you breathless in your white lace dress-- the dying swan" "no end there, there, there" "a dream of lights "hiding in bright-edged cloud stone ring silence." "bow-wow! bow-wow!" how is he going to structure it? he says, "that god damned-- and i mean god damned-- "poem paterson has me down. "i am burned up to do it, but don't quite know how. "i write and destroy, write and destroy. "it's all shaped up in outline and intent. "the body of the thinking is finished, "but the technique is unresolvable to date. i flounder and flunk." he floundered and flunked for about 10 years, then it came to him. what he came up with was a sort of-- to use the fashionable terminology-- a paratactic construction without closure. this means that the poem is collage. here again we go back to his friendship with the painters, you know, who in the

of powers and when it was proposed, the people of any free country deserve a bill of rights, alexander hamilton said what is the point of a bill of rights when the constitution gives the government no power to violate rights? people wanted a bill of rights so they won't one for greater caution and for tweet amendments the outline they were protecting and in the ninth amendment for even greater caution they said the enumeration of southern rights in this constitution shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. that is an important word. the constitution did not grant people their rights. people already had their rights and the constitution guaranteed they would >> reporter: them. and the tenth amendment did set by the way any powers not granted the federal government are reserved to the states for the people. we have a truly redundant system to protect our rights and freedoms from a libertarian point of view didn't entirely work but compared to the rest of the world and the rest of history it worked fairly well. in general i think it is a bad idea to talk about vot

one of the stories that i really enjoy in the book is this story about how alexander hamilton actually openly advocated for a monarchy at the constitutional convention in 1787. he did so at his own political peril and detriment. a lot of people believed this may have been something that sunk any presidential ambitions he might have otherwise had. his idea of the monarchy was, of course, soundly rejected by the convention, and with good reason. they were very concerned, first and foremost, about the excessive accumulation of power in the hands of a few, or especially the hands of a one. that is why spoke about the fact that it is a little ironic that we have consolidated so much power in the executive branch in modern times. we have done so, moreover, in a bipartisan fashion. this has not been one party or the other that has done this. nor has it been the executive who has simply seized all of this power. congress has been all too willing, and even eager, to immigration. it is an easy way for congress to avoid accountability for making laws. it is a very easy way for congress to accept

john jay and james madison, alexander hamilton many other, they debated, studied, looked at past democracies and wondered why they failed and determined we needed a representative republic with checks and balances so one side could not usurp the other and divide it further among the branchs and so when we hear complaints we can't get anything done in washington, it was designed that way. it was literally designed so that there would be competing interests, and i think when you come to overlapping circles of need, that's where you can find the compromise. that's where you can find the things that most americans can get behind and you can do. already seeing it, already beginning to do some of it, my dad was a democrat. my mom, a republican. i grew up in a house divided. i think it's important to listen to both sides. no person is the font of all knowledge. i learned something from everybody i talked to and i think it's important that we keep that perspective. at a minimum we'll be more so lid fied eddwsh solidified in believing they were correct, but we may be persuaded to another view but you

john jay, james madison, alexander hamilton, many others -- they debated, studied, and looked at past democracies and wondered why they failed and determined we needed a republic. a representative republic with checks and balances so that one side could not usurp the other and then even divide it further among the branches. so when we hear complaints about you can't get anything done in washington, it was designed that way. it was literally designed so that there would be competing interests. i think when you come to overlapping circles of need, that is where you can find the compromise. that is where you can find the things that most americans can get behind and you can do. already seeing it, already beginning to do some of it. my dad was a democrat, my mom a republican. i grew up in a house divided. i think it is important to listen to both sides. no person is the font of all knowledge. i learn something from everybody i talk to. i think it is important that we keep that perspective. at a minimum, we will be more solidified in defending our beliefs that they were correct but an alte

alexander hamilton tanked his political career, making it impossible for him to become president, byroposing a monarchy at the constitutional convention in 1787. now, that idea went over like a lead balloon, as should have been expected. they rejected it because they were very afraid of what would happen if one person got so much power. i think they would be surprised we gave so much power to one person. >> wave your magic wand. what is the single biggest change your make? >> single biggest change is something like the raines act. all new major rules and regulations adopted by executive branch bureaucracies would have to be passed by the house and by the senate and then signed into law by the president as contemplated under the constitution. i talk about that in my book and other solutions for restoring our lost constitution. >> it's a great read. i want to ask you, though, about the upcoming presidential race. you're in a unique position. three close friends all in the race. rand paul, ted cruz, marco rubio. puts you in a little bit of a delicate position. how are you going to balan

that's an idea as old as alexander hamilton. but if you didn't have that strong robust private economy you couldn't pay for the compassion mate, you couldn't afford to do all of these social programs. so they put, they thought the horse before the cart. and they felt the new deal was acting in reverse. c-span: let's go to some video e from that convention in 1964 the year that they nominated barrly goldwater at -- barry goldwater at the republican convention. >> feed on fear, hate and terror. they encourage disunity. >> you control the audience. >> these are people who have nothing in common with american. the republican party must repudiate these people. >> guest: extremism. [laughter] then as now, a topic much discussed. first of all, you have to have a little bit of context. that convention came one month after passage of the 1964 civil rights act which, it's important to note, was passed with republican votes in both houses, but critically in the senate. and a bill that nelson rockefeller strongly supported. in fact, he want

one of the stories i've really enjoyed the book is a story about how alexander hamilton opened the advocatefor a monarchy at the constitutional convention in 1787. he did so at his own political peril. a lot of people believe this may have had something that sunk in a presidential he might have otherwise had. his idea of the monarchy was of course reject dead by the convention and with good reason. they were very concerned first and foremost about the excessive accumulation of power in the hands of view are the hands of the wind. that's one of the reasons i focus on the fact that the little i've gone back with consolidated so much power in the executive ranch in modern times. we've done so moreover in a bipartisan fashion. it's not than one party or the other that is sadness. nor has it been the executive listed received all of its power. congress has been all too willing and eager to relinquish it. it's an easy way for congress to avoid accountability for making laws. an easy way for congress to accept all of the glory and none of the blame when identifying certain broad policy aspirations

john jay and james madison, alexander hamilton many other, they debated, studied, looked at past democracies and wondered why they failed and determined we needed a representative republic with checks and balances so one side could not usurp the other and divide it further among the branchs and so when we hear complaints we can't get anything done in washington, it was designed that way. it was literally designed so that there would be competing interests, and i think when you come to overlapping circles of need, that's where you can find the compromise. that's where you can find the things that most americans can get behind and you can do. already seeing it, already beginning to do some of it, my dad was a democrat. my mom, a republican. i grew up in a house divided. i think it's important to listen to both sides. no person is the font of all knowledge. i learned something from everybody i talked to and i think it's important that we keep that perspective. at a minimum we'll be more so lid fied eddwsh solidified in believing they were correct, but we may be persuaded to another view but you

i tell for example, the story how alexander hamilton proposed a monarchy at the constitutional conventionr and i explained some of the ironies and the way we make laws today that in some ways are more consistent with hamilton's proposal than with the conclusions of the founding fathers at the constitutional convention. this book provides the american people whether left right, center, with a great way of reconnecting with our constitution and understanding how it operates and understanding how we can restore it. >> senator mike lee, thank you for being with me appreciate your time. >> thank you. >>> new details on that breaking story out of north carolina we've been covering for you. nbc news confirmed the person shot at wayne community college has died. police are still looking for the suspect who's described as a white male 5'11", tattoo over his left eye, wearing a blue jacket with white-colored pants. local paper says students and faculty barricaded themselves in once they heard about what was going on. the paper says law enforcement now working to clear each building on campus but re

john jay, james madison, alexander hamilton, many others -- they debated, studied and looked at past democracies and wondered why they failed and determined we needed a republic, a representative republic with checks and balances so that one side could not usurp the other and then even divide it further among the branches. when you hear complaints about you can't get anything done in washington, it was designed that way. it was designed so there would be competing interests. i think when you come to overlapping circles of need, that is where you can find compromise. that is where you can find the things that most americans can get behind and you can do. already seeing it and doing some of it. my dad was a democrat, my mom a republican. i grew up in a house divided. i think it is important to listen to both sides. no person has all knowledge. i learn something from everybody i talk to. i think it is important that we keep that perspective. at a minimum, we will be more solidified in defending our beliefs that they were correct but an alternative, we may gain new information that persu

but they have been around since alexander hamilton. who think rand paul is not getting a fair shot. he will get get a very fair shot. he will get 10 percent or more in every presidential primary but he may have the lowest ceiling unless he successfully persuade people that he will be open to the use of american force whenever necessary command i would.out, in washington dc this week a gyroscope landed on the capitol. i was there on monday. i was actually in the company of a fighter pilot a monday night asking about airspace over dc, the most heavily controlled airspace. every aircraft is handed off and closely monitor. this gyroscopic lands on the capitol. it's only a matter of time until the country is again hit. lindsey graham was on the program this week. i asked him if he was amazed it wasn't shot down and he was. i asked him do you think america is more susceptible to a mass casualty attack today that it than it was six and a half years ago? and he said absolutely yes. and so i think one of the burdens that he will bear is persuad