dmitri bobbitt she is a political analyst we spoke nick international and in london we crossed alexander macarius he is the editor in chief of the duran dot com or a german cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate look at let me go to alexander macarius in in london here i remember the days the years ago when the u.s. led go against chile was when progress and nixon asked kissinger to make sure that the economy there would scream is that the same game plan that we have here with venezuela because it seems like the shock and awe of regime change is spent and now we're going into a different frame of phase of this force regime change in caracas go ahead in london i think you are yet to answer your question i think that is exactly what the game plan is i think the intention originally was to provoke action by the military in effect a military coup against president maduro who as you correctly say remains the internationally recognized legitimate president of venezuela representing venezuela in the various international organizations including the

effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate look at let me go to alexander macarius in in london here i remember the days the years ago when the u.s. led against chile was in progress and nixon asked kissinger to make sure that the economy there would scream is that the same game plan that we have here with venezuela because it seems like.