at that point when it was negotiated, alexander-murray was -- when alexander-murray was negotiated, it was in good faith by the chairman and ranking member of the help committee as a compromise health care bill. the republicans cannot expect to pass their own separate ideological health care provision and then turn around and ask democrats to vote to pass murray-alexander. again, you can't create major injury to the health care system and hurt millions and then say please give us a band-aid. that's not what's going to happen. that's not the right thing to do. any republican senator who thinks they can pass the individual mandate and then turn around and get murray-alexander passed is dead wrong. it's clear that the dark trade-off at the center of the republican policy agenda is back. cutting health care in order to fund tax giveaways to the very wealthy and very powerful. democrats won't go for it. so that's one reason this provision is a bad one. the second change that the republicans made to their tax bill was to have -- or this is the second problem with the changes the republicans

from my point of view, the so-called alexander-murray legislation, which was recommended to the senate by senator murray and me and by -- recommended to the senate, there were 12 republicans and 12 democrats who were original cosponsors, including senator rounds and myself. that doesn't happen very often here. that's a quarter of the senate offering a bipartisan bill on a contentious subject to the senate. here's what it does. one it lowered premiums. in 2018, where the rates were already set, it requires the states to work with insurance companies and give rebates for the high premiums that have been already set. and in 2019, it will lower premiums. that's the first thing it does, and the first reason why i and many republicans support it. because the premiums are lower, mr. president, it also means fewer tax dollars going to pay for obamacare subsidies. that's another reason republicans and conservatives like the idea of the alexander-murray bill. another reason we like it is because because there are lower subsidies, there is less federal debt. the congressional budget office has ex

shaheen: i'm pleased to join my colleague from washington, senator murray, and congratulate her and senator alexander on being able to reach agreement to move forward to address the uncertainty in the marketplace, but, like senator murray, i want to also begin with what we're seeing going on in this open enrollment period. despite all of the efforts to undermine the affordable care act, to shorten the time period in which people can sign up to make it more difficult by having sundays -- having the site closed for part of sundays, we are seeing a record number of people enrolling. according to news reports, on the firstday alone, more than a million people visited healthcare.gov, almost double the number that signed up last year on the first day. so for anybody who is still thinking about it, you have until december 15. so sign up early, as senator hassan says, it is the best christmas shopping you can do, get your health care. go to healthcare.gov and enroll during the open enrollment period. this surge in signups is especially remarkable in light of the widely publicized efforts by the trump adminis

the alexander-murray bill would continue them two more years. >> david, "l.a. times"." >> i want to take you back to the top exof health care. provisions wo manage to get through the legislative maze obviously combination of reinsurance and alexander-murray would mitigate there's ms of -- disagreement about how much -- but we have had for the entire year an effort by the administration to, some would call it sabotage, others would say neglect, but certainly not robustly administering the law. the law itself has flaws in the first place. and there are still talk about senator graham is talking about trying to come back with another version of skinny repeal next year. what do you see going forward with health care? is there any realistic prospect of fixing some of the acknowledged flaws of the law or are we going to go through a whole other round of trying to repeal and replace? senator collins: after the repeal and replace bill failed, the senate health committee held four meaty, substantive hearings that were excellent. we heard from governors, actuaries, insur

[inaudible question] >> i am not, we should pass the alexander murray compromise. i believe we have plenty of opportunities to do that as the economist moves forward. we do not need to trade it for a tax bill. as we want. [inaudible question] >> well, they should not be. and we are making every effort in this congress to bring us up to what we need to do. that is what the senators are doing.plain and simple.

republicans now are thinking of passing this amendment, called the alexander-murray amendment. that stands for lamar alexander, republican, and patty murray, democrat, this is move to put subsidies to insurance companies back in. that is the price to pay for getting rid of the obamacare mandates. is that a worthy price to pay for that? >> you know, i don't think so. i don't know why you would put subsidies back in either. it doesn't make any sense. it will just raise the cost to everyone by the amount of the subsidy. people aren't getting it any cheaper, david. david: is it a deal breaker for art laffer if they put subsidies back in, if the alexander-murray amendment passes, would that make it unpassable in your mind? >> i'm not a voter in the senate, david, i'm really not. how i would vote if i were senator i would have no idea i think i really like the corporate tax rate reduction. david: but you want it now. you were going to talk about phase-in. this happened in the 1980s, rather than officially putting in tax cuts reagan wanted in 1981, they phased them over two or three ye

>> the democrats are not going to support alexander murray.e alexander murray planned this money to help, give a soft landing to the individual mandate repeal. if you look at polling, any further deterioration in the obamacare exchanges will be blamed on the republicans and so you have a math problem. apart from the concerns. senator johnson has small business concerns. senators corker, flake, and langford have concerns. i think they need to come closer to what the house passed because their bill is too problematic. >> i think they mandate repeal takes care of a lot of deficit concerns but you are right, at what cost? this is a narrow majority for the senate, and they are such fickle senators in play. i don't give can count on john mccain to vote for this tax reform or tax cut. he didn't support the bush tax cuts in 2001 and in 2003. the individual mandate portion which i think has some savviness to it. you are losing democrats and you might not be shoring up the republican base. this might be one of the things we see but kudos to paul ryan. w

[inaudible question] >> i am not, we should pass the alexander murray compromise. i believe we have plenty of opportunities to do that as the economist moves forward. we do not need to trade it for a tax bill. as we want. [inaudible question] >> well, they should not be. and we are making every effort in this congress to bring us up to what we need to do. that is what the senators are doing.plain and simple. >> there are a lot of workplaces dominated by males that need to learn a few things good that is in a private sector and the public sector as well. so i applaud senator klobuchar and our other problems believe in the windows. when you bring diversity into any situation, you bring a point of view. you show people that there are not certain things -- there are certain ways not to behave. >> i think part of this, the first thing that we did which is that we mandated harassment training. which had not been mandated. it is mandated in a lot of workplaces. but it was not ours and we got that done in one week. the second thing that we are now doing with the rules comm

alexander has been working on that. he stand on it now? >> that is interesting. he and patty murray have proposed a bipartisan mix that gives extra money for insurance companies that have high patients. >> alexander says it will stabilize premiums. donald trump asked him to negotiate that, but he's wavered on whether or not he's for it. now some moderate republican senators are saying if we're going to vote for the tax bill, we need that alexander/murray bill to stabilize obamacare, and senator alexander is hoping he can persuade president trump to give the thumbs-up finally and get that into law at the end of the year. >> john harw. >>> elsewhere chip maker marvell technology is buys its small are rival. that's where we ge tonight's market focus. marvell said it's going to buy network equipment maker cavium, for about $6 moil. it says it wil and diverse fit the revenu and all to offer more services to its customers. it rose 6% to 21.59. shares of cavium popped. >>> dish network subscribers are at risk of losing programming as early as this evg if they don't reach an agreement. cbs

so we can net lower premiums if we can put forward the alexander murray bill and lower the deficit.re's a way forward even if senator collins is concerned about the individual mandate. >> neil: what did you think, senator, of the back and forth between the president of the united states and your colleague, jeff flake, with the president after hearing of comments that the senator made at on open mic saying he's going to be a no vote on tax cuts anyway? what did you think of that? >> i'm not sure that senator flake will be a no vote on taxes. republicans are all about lowering the tax burden and lowering the tax burden on those middle class. there's common ground between he and the president there. we're all about economic growth. i think that's where senator flake is. clearly he and the president don't like each other. maybe not personally but maybe in terms of policy. on this, there's common ground. i'd like to think that senator flake can get there. >> neil: the fact that they have these run-ins a lot, do a lot of your colleagues feel it's a unique club you're in, 100 men and women

could you support alexander-murray under those circumstances? speaker ryan: i'm not going to comment on end games on tax reform or conference committee issues. i think the senate did a very good job of not commenting on our delivered process while we were processing tax reform. i want to respect their process. i'm not going to comment on their deliberations while they are in the midst of considering tax reform. all these issues, and i'm sure there are a number of other questions about the amendments today, those things the senate has to work out and we'll work with the senate on the endgame in the conference committee. i'm not going to come out in any of their deliberations right now. reporter: mr. speaker, more lewd social media messages surfaced today from congressman joe barton, apparently a constituent said that he had messaged over facebook some lewd messages? speaker ryan: today? i'll have to get back to you on it. reporter: this is in addition to the photos and the videos. have you spoken with mr. barton? do you think that he should esign

the alexander murray plan is aimed at the right targets. whether you call repeal and replace her fixing the aca, it doesn't matter. from my perspective whether it's a tax break or subsidy, science we get people into the system let's move forward. i hope we can use it as a springboard for solutions in the long-term. under a framework for getting healthcare right any process must do three things. stabilize, transition, and accelerate. stabilize the system is very precarious. i can't tell you the number of calls for having 300,000 people, who don't know they can really sign up in november, that's how was your one. we should be well beyond that. number two, management transition to whatever the next test circuit reformist. number 36 celebrate innovations payment models to create true sustainability in the long run. none of that can happen without a bipartisan agreement. we should demand it. whatever you can talk to, demand that they sit around the table and get it time. one of the key elements of stabilize in our system, start with the newly in

collins senators alexander murray would attempt to stabilize the marketplace. reduce the risk of insurance companies. their bipartisan stabilization proposal would appropriate money for cost sharing reduction subsidies. they could provide short-term certainty. premiums would go down. it's been scored by the cbo by reducing the deficit by $3.8 billion over the next ten years. that's why it deserves serious consideration. apart from the mandate there are other parts i like to highlight. one involves the myth that certain parts of the proposal are just disguised corporate welfare. some claiming it's corporate welfare when they supported a similar provision in previous proposals. the claim is misleading. the irony is, this bill would do more to stop corporate tax gain than anything done by the obama administration. the incentive for companies to gain and move property abroad is reduced. the bill institutes a territorial system that includes base erosion roles. their safeguards against abuse that brings the profits home without paying taxes. the senate bill would im

yesterday the president said he supported the alexander murray agreement becoming law by the end of the year. our agreement has so much in it that appeals to so many democrats and independents hard to imagine our not passing something prevented 25% increase in premiums by 2020 and offers states flexibility to further lower rates. the democratic leader called it a good compromise, the senate has the support of all 48 democrats and the senate, chairman of the democratic national committee tom perez tweeted last month alexander murray has widespread bipartisan support. as a secretary there are many other steps you can take to lower premiums and stabilize the markets such as approving innovation waivers which would increase access to lower-cost plans and incentivize younger and healthier individuals to purchase insurance. the opioid crisis that is ravaging this country is a priority for the president and every member of this committee. having hearings on the state perspective on the opioid crisis tomorrow. you will be coordinating a departmentwide effort to combat the opioid drug abuse, dru

senator alexander murray have been discussing a bipartisan approach. honestly, i don't know if that will be addressed, we have our hands full as you can imagine. but it is possible some kind of short-term fix it could be stuck onto an omnibus. all i said is that i'm not going to bring up anything the president is not in favor of. you have to have a signature to make a law. but if he decides he's interested in a short-term bipartisan fix that will take a hard look at it. >> is a step back from these issues and not a huge surprise that tax cuts affects most people, would you step back from these issues and look at it historically, does it bother you we are continuing to try to connect big social and economic changes along partisan lines? >> it's a pretty partisan time. this is not your father's democratic party. very few moderate democrats left. the best evidence was the contrast i drew between significant tax report years ago and three this time. we just look at it differently. we look at the last eight years and not achieving a 3% growth in underperfor

could you support alexander murray under those circumstances?i'm not going to comment on end games with reform or conference committee issues. i think they did a good job not deliberating on our process. i'm not going to comment on their deliberations. all of these issues and i'm sure there's probably a number of other questions about the amendments going through today. those things the senate's got to work out and we'll wor work with -- >> do you remain dead set against -- >> i'm not going to comment on any other deliberations right now. >> mr. speaker, more lewd social media messages surfaced today from congressman joe barton. apparently a constituent said he messaged her over facebook, lewd messages. >> today? >> yesterday. but this is in addition. do you think he should resign or face any sort of reprimand for his actions? >> i have spoken with him and i'm going to continue speaking with him. >> mr. speaker, is a conference committee how the differences are going to be worked out? or is there any chance that it will be a conference committee

. >> the big thing happened to do i think with the alexander murray bill.here seems to be some question that the president was now willing to support it if -- if the repeal of the mandate does go through in the tax bill. can you tell us that that part of that conversation, whether that happened or not in that meeting? >> yes. i asked the first question of the meeting. i told the president i supported the elimination of the mandate. i told him that i thought it was wrong to fine people, punish people for not buying health insurance they can't ard to. he agreed with me, of course. and at that point i said, now, mr. president, will you support the bill by senator alexander to try to address in a stopgap way the problems with the affordable care act? and i heard him say yes. now, he didn't use the word yes. he gave a little bit longer explanation, but i took yes away. >> so you think -- now, sequencing of it, does that mean -- and i know -- look, you guys trying to get to 50 is no easy task as senator mcconnell laid out there earlier. >> right. >> but does alex

could you support alexander murray under those circumstances? >> i'm in the going to comment on end games with tax reform or conference committee issues. i think the senate did a very good job of not commenting on our process while we were processing tax reform. i'm not going to comment on their deliberations while they're in the midst of considering tax reform. all these issues and i'm sure there are a number of other questions on amendments to go through today we will work on the end game in the conference committee. i'm not going to comment on any other deliberations right now. >> mr. speaker, more lewd social media messages surfaced today from congressman joe barton be apparently a constituent said that he had messaged her over facebook, some lewd messages, inappropriate -- >> today? >> well -- yesterday. >> i will have to get back to you. >> this is in addition to photos and videos. have you spoken with mr. barton and do you think he should resign or face reprimand? >> i have spoken with him and going to continue speaking with him. yeah. >>

in their premium since 2013 anyway but we want to try to get premiums moving down, not up and alexander murray seems to be something that they talk to the white house about and the white house is open to as part of the larger negotiation. >> could you support having a fix for dreamers in the spending deal at the end of the year that includes border security smart. >> i think president trump did the right thing by sending us to congress. this is congress responsibility and that's a mistake president obama tried to do all by himself. we are in the midst of negotiations now with senator derman, senator schumer and others to try to come up with solutions. i think the solution is fairly obvious and it is important that we get it done and i told senator derman yesterday that we could do it anytime he was ready to sit down and negotiate. we could do it before the end of the year or after the first of the year and we know that march is an important timeframe when the benefits of the daca begin to go away and i think there is a great opportunity -- >> you want to keep it separate? >> yeah, i think it d

, senator murray, senator alexander. but as soon as he expressed support for that legislation, dealing with health care, bipartisan legislation, his white house director of legislative affairs, mark shortt, he was here in "the situation room," he said that wasn't necessarily the case. a lot of people are concerned. he makes a promise, but then he backs away. >> well, here's what i believe. he said it to the entire republican conference. he said it to susan collins. and i believe him. here's the way it would work, if you do repeal the individual mandate, which i think we should as part of the tax bill, then you need to really make the subsidy payments, because that would create premium increases if you stop the payments and put that to alexander murr murray/collins/nelson on any bill. i believe the president will keep his word. and i think that is a good deal for the country at large. >> we still don't know if your other republican colleagues, senators corker and flauk ake a yes on the bill when it comes up on the senate

yesterday the president said he supported the alexander murray agreement becoming law but into the year. our agreement has so much in it that appeals to so many democrats and independents. it's hard to imagine our not passing something that prevents a 25% increase in premiums by 2020 and offers states electability to further lower rates. the democratic leader called it a good compromise and said it has the support of all 48 democrats. the chairman of the democratic national committee tweeted last , alexander murray has widespread bipartisan support. as secretary, there are many other steps you can take to lower premiums and stabilize the market. the opioid crisis that is ravaging this country is a priority for the president and every member of this committee. we are having estate perspective on opioid crisis tomorrow. drug overdose deaths in tennessee went up by 12% from 2016.o it dramatically increase 74% in 2015 to -- pledged tos streamline programs and provide funding to states and communities on the frontline of this crisis, imprudent -- and putting preventing the comprehensive addi

improve this, you look at the proposal -- a bipartisan proposal on the table from senators alexander and murray, that would make some of these changes that both side would say those are reasonable things you need to do but it has go got close zero traction because of the environment we're in. >> chris. >> just so many things in the exchange. first of all you're right to raise that premiums have gone up another context. it's not just the exchange. but also i think it's appropriate to say that the nonindividual market is the hardest place to make the marketplaces work. you have a much more volatile population going in and us, people if you're an insurer -- pre aca and post aca always a problem and as a consequence always be some challenge that exist that don't exist in other areas. secondly, notwithstanding that fact, if i was -- this is the ultimate irony of course, is that most republicans prior to the affordable care act would say we need exchange as an alternative to a big single pair, medicare, we need a private-based coverage approach, and i would argue, respectfully but'll be ignored by mo

senators alexander and murray put together a reasonable compromise on health care. we can do it again on tax reform. we democrats want to do real reform. but our republican friends must abandon this partisan, secretive reckless process that will lead to no good for them and for the country, and come to the table with democrats. and one final point on the matter, republicans repeatedly promised that the $1.5 trillion reduction in the corporate tax rate proposed by the ryan ryan-mcconnell tax plan will leave the average american family to receive a $4,000 raise. yet corporate profits are already at record highs, wages are relatively stagnant. calling us skeptical that sharing corporations with new tax brackets that will result in them having even more money will end up creating higher wages for workers. what it will create far more likely is a another round of stock buy-backs and dividends which benefits corporate c.e.o.'s and the wealthy by and large. you don't have to take it from me. david marburker, executive c.e.o. at conagra, this is what he he told shareholders

i think it bipartisan alexander murray bill makes a lot of sense. on the mandate just in itself. you will have 15 million people newly uninsured. premiums will go up by 10%. you are looking at dynamic scoring is a good thing. charles: premiums have done a pretty good job of going through the roof. charles: the a.p. reporting 14 lawsuits say concert organizers, and the hotel and bump stock manufacturers all share the blame. gunman had an as nafl weapons modified with bump stocks which allowed him to fire as automatic rather than single shots. he was found dead in his hotel room when the police stormed it, and it was the deadliest mass shooting in modern american history. but while some push high commission investment products, fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and layered fees. fisher investments never does. and while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments

if not, i think we need to fix it, by passing two bills, the alexander murray bill which will help to stabilize markets and reduce premiums. and bill, i have introduced bill nelson of florida that would create high risk pools that would protect people with preexisting conditions and also help to reduce premiums by 20%. >> you say you have data that the premium increase will outweigh any tax cut that a middle income person could get from this tax bill. to drill down on this point, will you have to vote no, if there isn't the relief you're looking for through tinkering with this bill or the bill you just offered? >> the amendment is going to be entered on the house floor, in part to provide more relief to middle income families and to deal with the very problems that you have identified. if you do pull this piece of the affordable care act out, for some middle income families, the increased premium is going to cancel out the tax cut that they would get and that's why it's so important that we pass the two pieces of legislation that i have talked about. and it's also why we need to resto

senator alexander and senator murray have very ably described the complexity and the importance of this role. and therefore, it's my privilege to introduce and to recommend he is up to the task and supremely well qualified to carry out this important work. as mentioned during my service as secretary of hhs, mr. azar was deputy secretary. he was chief operating officer of this complex department. prior to his service, he served as the general counsel under c secretary thompson, who i believe later will also introduce and robustly recommend him to the finance committee. that plus his experience leads me to conclude that there may not have been a nominee to this office of secretary better prepared to hit the ground running than alex azar. it was mentioned that hhs is a large and complex place. while deputy secretary, alex asdzar was the manager of the day-to-day operations of 90,000 employees and $1.1 trillion budget. just a brief example of what i think talk would illustrate his capability. president bush had a management agenda that laid out a criteria of several dozen different object i

health care market stabilization bill, that was being put forward by republican lamar alexander and democrat patty murray. that is a move towards bipartisanship. does that surprise you at all? >> it does. of course everything this guy does surprises me, jake. you're right, senator alexander, respected republican out of tennessee and senator murray, respected democrat out of washington. are among the few who have been able to put together bipartisan deals in the last few years in washington. i would say it's a very hopeful sign, but i would remind you that way back on october 17th the president said he was going to cancel the payments, the obamacare payments that apparently today he told the senate republicans he wasser for. he's a man of his most recent word but i wouldn't put a lot of stock in it. >> rana, there are ten democrats up for re-election in 2018 in red states, states that went for trump. do you think they're going to feel pressure to join republicans on the tax bill, join republicans when it comes to government funding? >> you know, i really don't think so. i just think that this tax bill is

she is pushing for the alexander murray plans to stabilize the markets and give certainty to the health care system going forward to you once that vote by the end of the year and is looking for those assurances. she is concerned it doesn't do enough for the middle class. she has filed amendments that would get rid of carried interest loopholes used by hedge fund managers to give more to the child tax credit. there are different issue she is working on. she could see the corporate tax rate go up. she would have another amendment for the state and local income tax deduction, an issue that the house came up with a compromise. the senate completely gets rid of that deduction. there could be a bringing the cobble together of a bunch of little things to get susan collins on board. she seems uncertain and is not committed one way or the other. vonnie: we heard that there is betweent in principle omey.ker and to does that mean it will be in the final bill? a foregonet conclusion that will be a trigger of raising taxes if economic growth is not met, but there is a strong likelihood it will be a.

in the senate there is a company bill the alexander murray bill which is a bipartisan bill was sure isthat the payments to insurers, which president trump said was going away in the payments to insurers as well as republicans ability to give the state more authority in how they implement the obamacare bill. that means the republicans can feel good about repealing the individual mandate if another bipartisan bill nature insurance market don't know. it could lead to some success in reading together among republicans on the senate. trade press about this outcome in the end of the house and senate roots develop together with the individual mandate is repealed in the end? >> the health care markets are having a great deal of difficulty anyway even if this is an enacted as part of the final tax bill. the key to our economic growth is greater economic freedom. keep reducing regulations, keep delivering on the tax cut promise in the economy will continue to grow even faster than it has. lauren: thank you so much. good to see you. lea: coming up, what do one british fare and harvey weinstein ha

change because of this, but what -- what they promised to do was to follow on with so-called alexander murray measuraire washington state republican alexander, murray glat to the sib indonesia teet insurance companies to cover increases in premiums for those below a certain income level, the premium yes premiums are going to continuing to up, the tax payers picking up the tab for those, below a certain income level, low income and moderate income people forced into the exchanges. >> i will take -- >> i think that is -- >> -- take that as a "no." >> market participant whether this is going to get done by december if complicates or convolutes the matter further market is anticipating something it has done this year could this kick the can into march should they not get formal decision whether they keep or take out the mandate? >> i think that is a quick decision, if -- my suspicion is hatch talked to some of the collins-murkowski, and mccain you also heard senator kennedy louisiana say i am for this so long as it doesn't bollix it up if they don't have votes they will move it out yeah no i thin

it has a deal to pass alexander murray which people like on the substance.t's 50 votes as the senate is currently constituted. senator mcconnell has laid out a time line where they may move in december. this election in alabama is december 12. if the calendar is pushed on tax reform and jones beats more or whoever in alabama, we're not at 50. now we're at 49 on the republican tax plan. so this situation in alabama right now may be the thing that keeps the republicans on congress on track. if they have 50 votes for this deal with the individual mandate repeal in it, they can't afford to lose even one. >> based on the polling i was briefed on. if they don't get this done before a democrat may win this seat in alabama, getting the individual mandate repealed in this tax bill will be really, really difficult. it doesn't mean tax reform is done. >> plus, the trump adviser steve bannon is talking about getting rid of mitch mcconnell. they're taking the call now. he's the only one with a plan to keep this tax reform bill together. and that run may run through alaba

>> that's why you say at least in the senate they'll pass this along with the alexander murray bill as well. that addresses the subsidies and the issues you're talking about. people like senator collins -- >> down the road. >> and coming up on "outnumbered" over time, harris will talk about more with taxes, kevin brady and leader of the senate republican conference, john thune. stick around for that the top of the hour. it will be fiery. >> at one point you'll have a democrat and republican on the screen at the same time. >> fierce new debate with the president's authority over ordering a nuclear strike. democrats make it clear this is about president trump. >> i fear in the age of trump, the cooler heads and strategic doctrine that we once relied upon as our last best hope against the unthinkable seem less re-assuring than ever. >> new concerns today over limiting the president's power as north korea threatens nuclear war. >> they've done everything they could. now they're working together to try to keep me from going to washington. why? if yor crohn's symptoms are holding you back, a

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. >> -- from senators alexander and murray that would make some of these changes that i think both sides would say, okay, those are reasonable things you would need to do. but it's got close to zero traction now because of the environment that we're in. >> okay. chris? >> well, i -- there's just so many things about the exchange. first of all, you're right to raise that premiums have gone up in other contexts. it's not just the exchange, but also i think it's appropriate to say that the non-group individual market is the hardest place to make the marketplaces work. >> yeah. >> you have a much more volatile population going in and out, you have people going in between medicaid and the exchanges and exchanges and employer-based. if you're an insurer, this is all -- pre-aca and post-aca this is always a problem, and as a consequence, there will always be some challenges that exist there that don't in other areas. >> yes. >> secondly and notwithstanding that fact, if i was -- this is the ultimate irony, of course, is that most republicans prior to the affordable care act would say we need ex

said yesterday that even if we pass the murray-alexander bill into law, it would have little or no impact on either of those two things. and when it's all said and done, the tax bill will balloon the deficit by at least $1.5 trillion, adding to the debt burden borne by the next generation and diminishing our ability to support the military and invest in our schools, our roads, and in scientific research. let me just repeat that. the increased deficits caused by this bill will cannibalize support from everything we know is essential to economic growth and a strong middle class, including support for our men and women in uniform. ultimately, this deficit-busting tax cut will endanger social security, medicare and medicaid, as my friend, the republican senator from florida admitted yesterday when he said higher deficits will mean instituting changes to social security and medicare for the future. so a win today for the g.o.p. will be a very temporary one. it would be enjoyed almost exclusively in the political media that measures who is up today and who is down tomorrow, but fails to grasp t

. >> we have other provisions moving forward in the alexander murray bill and others to help stabilize the exchanges. i want that. many of us do want that. we have assurances from the president and from others that we'll have a chance to make that a part of a package, not the tax package but here later in december. >> do you have any indications how your democratic counter part feels, joe manchin? >> you know what? the way i look at this in west virginia, it's a win for working families. 83% of our people that file don't even use the itemized deductions. so this is doubling that standard deduction. this is a no-brainer for west virginia. i hope he joins me. >> neil: do you feel in order to expedite things, assuming it's passed, could be a leap, but that the house then would vote up or down on your plan or would you do this reconciling back and forth? >> you know, that was raised at lunch today. i think there's a strong feeling we'll go to conference. we have some major differences, the individual mandate being one. these needs to be worked out. that's the way you get the compromise and

have not seen agreement not only last year and to the spring, but even in the fall with the alexander murrayill to try to tweak health reform. they couldn't get a consensus on that so it's going to be difficult to try to get a consensus in mixing in two of the most complicated issues, health reform, this mandate, and tax reform with the push back that millions of people could end up uninsured. it makes the whole situation a bit more complicated >> and something where the markets are watching every last detail we will keep following it. tracie potts in washington >>> oil under pressure after an iea report cast doubt over demand let's get to steve sedgwick with the latest steve? >> hello i don't think it has i will put that one out there. i don't think it's cast a doubt on demand whatsoever i was at the iea last week it was a closed shop debate i think the iea thinks demand has been robust but they've been tweaking the numbers a bit taken them down a bit. they still think by 2040, by which time i'll be a middle aged man, we'll have about 110 to 112 million barrels a day of demand. that's way u

we need to do the alexander murray bill that has been referred to a number of times. that is a two-year short-term solution. there are longer-term solutions being worked on. and small business health plans i have worked on for years. there are a whole bunch of things that need to be done. we have got a system that is not working. the biggest thing that i hear in wyoming, which is a low-income state, is that people cannot afford the insurance. they are paying more for insurance than their house payment. when it comes to the house payment and insurance, they go with the house payment. then they have to pay a penalty. them,4, the best year for there are more numbers from 2014 i hadget to, in 19,600 residents in wyoming, the least populated state in the nation, the penalties of $5.3 a million. of those, 7000 had annual income below $25,000. that 2014 penalty, the next year was $9 million. they paid that instead of buying insurance. the premiums could increase, but a choice not to buy could influence the premiums. the insurance companies will adjust. we need to provide add

we do need to do the alexander/murray bill that's been referred to a number of times.hat's a two-year short-term solution. there are some longer term solutions worked on like invisible high risk pools, automatic opt-in, and then small business health plans that i worked on for years and years that allow small businesses to group together. there are a whole bunch of things that need to be done even besides that. we got a system that's not working. and the biggest thing that i hear in wyoming, which is a low-income state, is that the people can't afford the insurance. they're paying more for their insurance than they're paying for their house payment. when it comes down to a choice between a house payment and insurance, they go with the house payment. and then they have to pay a penalty. how much ofjwiv penalty? well, in 2014, which is the best year for them, numbers, more from 2015 that i'll give, too, but it's not as complete. in 2014, i had 19,600 residents of wyoming, the least populated state in the nation, pay penalties of $5.3 million. and of those, 7,000 had ann

you look at susan collins, they're making a promise to her to do another bill next, to do the alexander murray bill. so they are stacking this in an increasingly complicated way to try to get something done, and it does look tenuous. >> and they're making changes on a bill that would not have had independent analysis by the cbo or by other nonpartisan groups of the joint tax committee. so to be continued. garrett, thank you so much for all of that. joining me from the other side of the hill, democratic lawyer. thank you for joining us, mr. leader. motion to proceed. mr. mcconnell has announce that had it seems as though the president has rallied the troops, the republicans in the center are going to hold firm so far, at least, with promises tba. what say you on the house side? do you think you can stop this in conference? do you think this tax bill is now going to become a reality? >> i'm hoping it goes to conference, because if it goes to conference, it is not just blindly accepted by the house if, in fact, the senate passes something. but if that happens, it will be bad for the country. it's

the health policy implications will be tiny and to the extent that alexander murray can be offset.sue is does it get you closer to 51 votes and i presume and it helped them on balance. it always contains elements like this and always has several near death moments and we'll see how this plays out. >> it will be interesting. thank you for joining us. appreciate that. >>> for weeks now, claims of sexual misconduct have dominated headlines and opened up a nationwide conversation. and for some democrats, that conversation is now turning to bill clinton and the allegations that dogged hill during the 1990s. and the question of whether it's time to rethink their defense of the 42nd president. we'll talk about that, next. the next era belongs to those who help ensure the next energy to power our dreams, will be american energy. the markets change... at t. rowe price... our disciplined approach remains. global markets may be uncertain... but you can feel confident in our investment experience around the world. call us or your advisor... t. rowe price. invest with confidence. we are the dri

the president committed yesterday, and it has been reported that the president would support alexander-murray. that is a way to truly keep premiums down, increase the numbers who have insurance, as opposed toed individual mandate which doesn't work. so i think senator, i can't speak for her, but i think she will be comfortable with that. trish: the president is in missouri today. senator mccaskill is not expected necessarily to be in favor of this. is there any chance he may be able to twist her arm or any other democrats for that matter? >> i sure hope so. we doubled the standard deduction. most americans, 78%, don't itemize. they take the standard deduction. we increase the number who will have their tax cut and filing simplified. that is good policy. good policy is good politics, whether you're a republican or a democrat. i hope senator mccaskill will vote for that. trish: will that stick? >> what is that? trish: "salt," state and local tax deduction that is concern from some states that have relatively high taxes. one of the suggestions steve forbes, which i think is very good one, senato

we have the alexander-murray plan. it's similar to what our colleagues put together.t reduces the deficit slightly and it takes no one off of health care and it stabilizes the market. and they say it's not a good plan. what is it they want? >> in the virginia gubernatorial one issue. were they sending message to republicans. >> yeah, i hope the republicans will hear it. >> not repeal and replace. >> fix it. fix the system. >> i know you want to bring people together. over the issue of guns. we had this horrible mass shooting. yet another mass shooting. president trump said it -- any sort of gun mashes wouldn't have helped. do you agree? >> no, no, of course not in vegas with the bump stock. those things ought to be thrown out right away. ohio is a place where people want to solve problems. they're willing to listen. i want to get a group of reasonable people, pro gun people. and those who favored limits on gun ownership. i want to put nem in a room and see if we can find common ground. even, however, respecting the the second amendment. we're not interested in having

they have 50 votes for this plan which also has a deal to pass alexander murray, which people like ondies. that's 50 votes as the senate is currently constituted. senator mcconnell has laid out a time line where they may move in this say the first week of december. this election in alabama is december 12. they have 50 votes today. if the calendar is pushed on tax reform and jones beats more or jones beats whoever in alabama, we're not at 50 anymore. now we're at 49 on the republican tax plan. so this situation in alabama right now may be the thing that keeps the republicans on congress on track. because if they've got 50 votes for this deal with the individual mandate repeal in it, they can't afford to lose even one. >> so did the -- the onus to get this done before this. >> based on the polling i was briefed on, if they don't get this done before a democrat may win this seat in alabama, getting the individual mandate repealed in this tax bill will be really, really difficult. it doesn't mean tax reform is overall is dead. but to get it done with, that would probably kill it. >> plus,

politically wise and whether it might potentially cause damage to the markets that -- remember the alexander-murraypromise that's been underway? they've been trying to fix that but you haven't heard senators who voted no on the obamacare repeal say they would definitely vote no but you can hear from susan collins who we talked to a little while ago saying she does have some concerns. take a listen. >> i am concerned. tax reform and reduction is something that i'm very much in favor of and has a great deal of appeal for most americans. i believe that if we start getting into health care issues with the individual mandate that we send a very mixed message. >> so katy, you hear a little bit of wavering there from susan collins but not an outright no. and i think republican leaders feel like the pressure is so high on the party, especially in the senate, to pass something that they don't see, at least not yet, any kind of defection from the ranks on this bill. >> i will be watching susan collins, i will be watching john mccain, i will be watching senator murkowski as well. garrett haake on capitol hill