i doubt that they have ever met, and, but jefferson davis vice president alexander stevens of georgia who is not a fire eat per either had a friendship with abraham lincoln when lincoln served as a congressman in, from 1846 to 1848 and they were friends, and lincoln wrote a letter to him. jefferson, i mean, alexander stevens wrote a letter to abraham lincoln while lincoln was waiting to come to washington just after he was elected to be president wondering if there was anything that they could do that if he had any suggestion and lincoln wrote back to him, i -- i don't, i would really like to be able to work it this out. he said, but -- but we don't seem to be able to agree on the extension of slavery and he said many his letter that what you want to extend slavery and make slavery national while we want to restrict it. >> is your book written for a general audience or scholarly audience? >> we wrote this book for our students that we had been teaching for larry teachings over year and i have for 20 years he's teaching at uva and i'm teaching at ucla, and we thought a lot about the fa

of the president of the confederacy in would be jefferson davis, across the hall there's alexander hamilton stevens the vice president of the confederacy, one level below in the crypt of the united states capitol. robert e. lee across the way from him, john ccalhoun, a major force on the side of the confederacy, leading up to t war. so the call for these removals of these statues is complicated. jim and shawn, every state is allowed to place two statues into the united states capitol, as part of the united states capitol statuary hall collection. however, it is up to those states to decide who they select. now, states can put a statue in, they can take a statue out. they can only have two at one time. so it is not quite clear now, if congress itself can actually force a state to remove a one of its statues. interestingly enough, only a couple of years ago, president obama was here when they placed the statue of rosa parks inside a statuary hall. fittingly and symbolically, they placed that statue of a seated rosa park as directly across statuary hall looking directly into the eyes of jefferson davi

put in two or three and then google alexander stevens cornerstone speech. see southern states modeled after the declaration of independence. they make it clear we are because we need to protect our right to own slaves. the vice president of the confederacy in 1861 made it very clear in that speech. chuck is calling in from winchester, virginia, on the republican line. situation withle confederates,and it have been 30, 40, 50 years ago, and nothing was done about it. nothing was mentioned about the statue's. they are not killing people. it is just a symbol for the to demonstrate and get out and be seen on tv. if you want to demonstrate something, look at dolly after james madison died, she was selling slaves because she had no money. go down to -- you have to pay to and see this. there is a video downstairs where a black slave had written a letter how she was scared to death of eating sold by dolly madison so she could have money in her lifestyle. is there an equivalency between some of these confederate figures and non-confederate figures who owned slaves?

google mississippi declaration of secession or any southern state, declaration of secession, or alexander stevenso was the vice president of the confederacy, and the words corner stone speech. and you will immediately see straightforward explanations of the purpose of the establishment of the confederate states of america. and they're very clear about it. they're not shy. they make it very clear that they are seceding and establishing this new nation for the purpose of protecting slavery. protecting the right of some individuals to own others. that's it. that's the reason they're creating it. so, when you're commemorating robert e. lee, stonewall jackson, you're commemorating people for this one single achievement. these guys don't have some other achievement. it's not like you're saying, well, there's someone who had this long career, they did this, they did that, we're willing to excuse acts because they did y. these guys have statues for one reason, which is their role in the leadership of attempting to create the confederate states of america, which had this singular purpose. so that's one th

her position across from the former vice president of the confederate states of america, alexander hamilton stevens> perhaps that's a good situation where you can -- this is about education. you can go to the hall and be educated on our past without just wiping away monuments. that debate will continue. >>> the trump administration agreeing to pay a key obamacare subsidy. at least this month. cnn "money stream" next. g a flit at the last minute doesn't have to be expensive. just go to priceline. it's the best place to book a flight a few days before my trip and still save up to 40%. just tap and go... for the best savings on flights, go to priceline. they save us from getting lost, getting hungry, and getting tired of places like this. phones changed everything - shouldn't the way pay for them change too? introducing xfinity mobile. where you can pay for data by the gig, and share it across all of your lines. no one else lets you do that. see how much you can save when you pay by the gig. xfinity mobile. it's a new kind of network designed to save you money. call, visit, or go to xfinitymobile.com.

rights leaders honoredal as well, among them rosa parks who positioned right across from alexander hamilton stevens of georgia. don, back to you. >> ryan nobles, thank you very much. no full-sized stat use of black americans were placed inside the capitol until 2013 when frederick douglass and rosa parks were added. yet confederate soldiers and politicians have been part of the collection for over 100 years. joining me now is bertram hayes davis, a great grandson of jefferson davis who was the president of the confederacy. it's so good to have you on. i've been wanting to have this conversation with you all day. thank you very much. what do these confederate statues represent to you as a direct descendant of the president of the confederacy? >> well, i think the statues represent history. and it's a very interesting position to say that when we look at a statue, it represents the history of the person from birth to death, not just a portion of their life. as we look at monuments to a confederate soldier, they probably represent the soldiers that fought in the civil war and for the south. so they ar

alexander hamilton stevens, he was the vice president of the confederacy, his statue is over that directionyou see how charlottesville here is very easily disrupting the republican agenda in september. ashley: exactly right, chad. great information, as always. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> anytime. ashley: want to get now to general jack keane, if we can. and i want to begin with afghanistan purely because that's what we're going to hear about with president trump tonight, general. what are you hoping to hear from president trump with regard to the ongoing, long-lasting war in afghanistan? >> well, one of the reasons why we're 16 years at war with no definable outcome is the fact that two presidents have never made the political and moral commitment to an enduring victory by providing the required resources. so, number one, i think if the president is going to commit to this, he has to put his political capital on the line. he has to convince the american people that this is in our national interests. that's clearly job one. number two, what's the strategy going forward? this is much

. >> peter alexander at the white house and steven kornacki is here with more of what this arizona trip might mean for the president, what it might mean for the gop, and what it coulds a mean for senators jeff flake and john mccain. peter, what is the administration saying we should expect from the events in arizona? >> reporter: the president will try to focus on immigration enforcement when he arrives in yuma, arizona, this afternoon. the desire is he'll go to one of those customs and border protection sites, a hangar, where he'll see a predator drone, part of the surveillance efforts that help enforce the border. he'll try to put new emphasis on the power of people, technology, and a wall to crack down on immigration, illegal immigration most notably, in 2006, in yuma, there was about five miles of wall, now it's more than 60 m e miles and the white house this morning touting the fact that illegal crossings have dropped about 80% say they compared to this time just a couple of years ago. so that's a critical element they'll be focusing on. the president obviously is going to be makin

an amazing debut and celebration for trent alexander—arnold, he came up through the liverpool academy and scored his debut goal. stevens late in the game before james milner‘s deflected cross made it two. the germans have given themselves a chance though thanks to this goal. juergen klopp said he had played a pa rt juergen klopp said he had played a part in the youngster‘s goal. i was, actually, because i told him he has got to do it. i don't want credit for it, because he is the only one who can shoot free kicks, better than i ever could. i have said it a few times, i have watched as many games as i could last year. he took the free kicks in a goal by similar size, and he did very well. various praise from former club legends including jamie carragher. this is a picture of him when he was a mascot next to him. they have changed quite a bit! isn't that nice. great to see former players getting behind a young gun. we saw that photo of someone shaking hands with rafael nadal, and then he was playing... we have seen a number of athletes doing it lately. it is lovely. everton have agreed a deal to sign swansea city midfie

alexander said he's going to host bipartisan talks on health care fix. and there's a third thing. they had a dramatic unveiling of this immigration policy with steventern, and no one in the senate took it seriously. it's not on their docket. they're not going to consider it. they're going to things like transportation potentially but most importantly tax reform first. i don't know. joe, maybe i'm wrong, but it seems like there are breaks that are already happening. it might be too late, but that's what i'm picking up from reporting. the senate and congressional republicans aren't taking directives from the administration as much anymore. >> they really aren't, and you had donald trump tweeting out instructions to mitch mcconnell on how he needed to run the united states senate. we all know mitch mcconnell well enough to know he's not going to take those suggestions from a president that mitch mcconnell doesn't think even knows how to run his white house very well. i'm wondering, we're seeing republicans breaking away, and there are people who might ask why are we looking at poll numbers for donald trump. the next election isn't until three and a ha