by retired army colonel lieutenant colonel, alexander vindman.n october 29th, and head to prepare an opening statement. reviewing all the previous witness depositions that had been made public, i saw that while each had made a persuasive professional case, for their views on foreign policy, they had an attempt to connect on a more personal basis. with the ordinary americans who were following the impeachment hearings on tv. as i had a personal story to tell, i decided to begin my statement with my career of service, in my immigrant families american dream. i thought up by provided that context, there was a chance that a lot of americans would understand, why i had to do what i was doing. my wife rachel and i have it upstairs and her daughter elise room on monday the day before my testimony, to go through the final draft. word by word. then i sent it to my legal team for their final approval. now we get home from school that i helped her to her makeup for her halloween costume. then we went to a girl scout halloween party. during the event, i call

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alexander vindman joins me now. colonel vindman good to see you again.e start with with a conversation early this we can. at the end of the conversation i asked you, was it worth it? you have now had a chance though talk to lots and lots of people and get a lot of feedback on your book. i ask you again, was the decision to report what happened on the phone call and testify at the impeachment of donald trump, was it worth it? >> you know, ali, i sat up most of this morning, didn't sleep well last night thinking about that question. and there was little i would do -- there is nothing i wouldn't do to defend this country. but the personal cost was immense. if i just stayed silent, had not reported that phone call, the president would not have been impeached. and my life would not have been thrown into turmoil. i would still have a manipulator career, still have the relationships that had fallen apart over the subsequent weeks and months. i wouldn't have created a massive amount of anxiety in my family. so there was a great personal cost. but i still stick t

matter how you wash, it's got to be tide. >>> we're back with retired army lieutenant colonel alexander vindmanory. it comes out tomorrow. colonel vindman, thanks for sticks with us. it's never reward to go a whistle-blower. and you couldn't have thought it was going to be rewarding. you were motivated by other things. you say "here, right matters" and you spend time talking about your father and decisions he made for your family and how you became you. there are people out there who are wondering whether they should report things that aren't right. what do you have to tell them? >> there is a sense of idealism i carry with me to this day. i think it helps me be resilient and about bounce back. but in reality, things are not that easy. there are trials and tribulations throughout the kind of persecution from the white house and then in the period after i left the white house, try to determine if i had a military career. that's the way things really are in life. the question is what do you do with that. do you let that push you down and do you crumble or do you bounce back and what i try to tell

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national security council, retired lieutenant colonel alexander vindman joins me now. thank you so much for joining me. i want to start with -- with the title of your book "here right matters." when you testified in congress that phrase won a nation's heart t.spoke to your family finding in america freedoms it lacked in the soviet union but you've lived to see anti-democratic forces follow you here and your confident right mattering here seems to be intention with the democrat being backsliding that we're witnessing in this country and that you saw up close. does right really matter here in some special unique way? >> thank you for having me off. i think it does. i think this country is very unique. in addition to my decades of military service, i served in some really difficult environments, in countries where democracy didn't exist or was under great pressure and i could see the contrast between those countries and the united states. it's something important to mention is that president trump was the chief executive and his party controlled one of the houses in congr

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. >> in your seat i interviewed lieutenant colonel alexander vindman. it was a remarkable interview about the moment in which she realized that donald trump had done something illegal and that can't stand and he will do something about that. maybe dj pack went through something like, that maybe jeff rosen went through something like that where he said this can't stand. i am most worried that our democracy cannot to rely on the fact that people will make good judgments. i'm really glad some people did in that alexander vindman did and he is a hero for doing. it i would really like to know that there is something else in its place that will prevent somebody like donald trump from an doing democracy as we have learned there was a full plan to do. this was not a win it was a plan. >> that's exactly right. you can't have a system that depends on superhuman heroism. there has to be consequences for putting people in circumstances where the only way to move forward and public services to be self sacrificing and-ing -- on a regular basis. today is the -- former

colonel alexander vindman joins me to talk about this more. thank you so much for taking the type and thank you for the service. >> thank you. >> here right matters. you paid a cost for this. you were forced out, your brother as well. the president to date has not faced legal consequences over this. he was acquitted in not one but two impeachment trials. do you still believe that? ? >> i do believe that. but i also believe that in order for right to matter we have to make it matter. and that means doubling down on accountability, that means he doesn't get a pass nor do his enablers in congress, still serving congress men and senators and i think they locked away to reints grate back into normal business profit off of their positions. they don't get a pass either. >> yeah. when you look back at the ukraine case and so much has happened since then, that people may forget the details of it. but here is a case of a u.s. president willing to use military assistance to an ally in need, under attack today by russia, for political gains. saying hey, i

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retired lieutenant colonel alexander vindman, thank you so much for writing the book.ime with us to talk about it. his new book "here, right matters" is out now. >>> when we return, we are going to pick up on all the themes we've been discussing, including the striking parallels between trump's perfect phone call with zelensky and his calls to georgia's secretary of state and the doj to try to overturn the 2020 election results, as new reporting shows just how far that effort went. >>> plus, why is tucker carlson doing his fox news show from hungary? we'll dig deeper into the right wing's obsession with far right autocrats. >>> and what donald trump really, really doesn't want you to know about his taxes. "deadline white house" continues after a quick break. don't go any wrchlt ne the joy o, by giving every customer a new 5g phone. old customers. new customers new 5g phones when you trade in your old ones. upgrade your phone. upgrade your network. one, two! one, two, three! only pay for what you need! with customized car insurance from liberty mutual! nothing rhymes wi

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someone you might be familiar with you, mike not heard from four oh while lieutenant colonel alexander vindman. author of the new book here, right math matters, which is an account of his life and his career and his decision to expose donald trump's abuse of power which led to the former president's first impeachment. colonel vindman is good to have you here. you write about in the book this shock of hearing the brazenness of the ask on the phone call i want you to talk about what it was like to hear that and your contacts of understanding precisely what was happening in your moment when it happened. >> sure, certainly in the book i explained a whole background before this call, this enterprising unfolding over the course of months. what was brazen and beyond the pale is the presidents own direct hand being the driving force in seeking to undermine a free and fair election. undermined the foundation of how our government has operated for more than 200 years, a peaceful transition of power, following free and fair election, that is what was brazen about it. the fact that the enterprise was unfo

large i'm excited to be with you all today and i'm honored to be joyed by lieutenant colonel alexander vindman an american hero who is here to discuss his book in american story i'm sure you all know alex but after former president trump with you phone call to president zelensky the chain of commands he had of foreign allies that damage the political challenger at home in the first time how we ended up at the center of the firestone and will discuss that in the next hour and i want to hear your questions, please put them in later in the program i also have a question from alex's wife that i'll be getting too thin to the program, thank you so much how is the book tour been going, how does the response been what is been your biggest take away from all of this. >> i need to figure out i think it was john williams this is a very sharp learning curve on something i frankly i never thought i'd be doing i thought eventually i would do something policy or geopolitics working on my visitation at hopkins so that is in the works but somebody in my mid form 40s writing a memoir it's a bit surreal and i co

i'm joined by a key witness, retired army lieutenant colonel alexander vindman. us, is barbara mcquaid, former u.s. tomorrow and michigan law professor. i hope you can hear me, lieutenant colonel vindman. i hear a bit of feedback in my audio. hopefully you can hear me. you talk about the fact that when you heard this call, with the ukrainian president, you immediately knew it was an impeachable offense. talk a little bit about that. >> that's right, thank you for having is me on, first of all. it's interesting from the very beginning although it seems to me that president trump was surprised he was president. he was unready to govern. he was looking forward for the next opportunity to continue his enterprise and continue to profit off of his office and i witnessed that first hand in my tenure at the white house on the national security council when he attempted to steal the election very early on and what we are witnessing is a continued enterprise. in my case, i heard the phone call, to me it was apparent to find dirt on joe biden so he could, first of all, unde

. ♪ >>> in november, 2019, lieutenant colonel alexander vindman testified before the house intelligencemyr zelensky. that testimony catapulted him into the public eye, ultimately led to president trump firing him from his job on the national security council. and in his new book "here right matters an american story" vindman details his side of the story and what happened after his testimony. lieutenant colonel alex lindman has since retired from the army is with us today. you detailed this phone conversation in this book, this changed your life and led to president treump's impeachment, investigate biden, get the aid. you write of trump, monotone, stanoffish, he remains stubborn aloof to make a personal connection. i knew one thing my carefully talking points had gone by the boards. the president wasn't using them at all. he may never seen them. as the conversation progressed my worst fears about the call kept being reconfirmed. off on a tangent of his own the president with every passing moment was aggravating a potentially explosive foreign policy situation. you're essentially listen

those years ago and on behalf of the commonwealth club i want to say to everybody our thanks to alexander vindman for joining us and by the book, is wonderful. there's much more we didn't get into. i'd like to thank the audience for watching and sending in questions and if you'd like to watch more programs or support the commonwealth club efforts in making virtual programming please visit commonwealth club.org/online . thank you, stay safe, stay healthy. go tigers. we will see you all. >> you're watching book tv with top nonfiction books and authors every weekend. book tv: television for serious readers. >> joining us is anthony davies. he is the co-author of "cooperation and coercion: how busybodies became busybullies and what that means for economics and politics". professor davies, in your book your right early on children learn a word for people that tell others how to live their lives : busybodies. why is thatincluded ? why is that important to the theme of your book ? >> the subtitle to the book is how busybodies became busybullies and what that means for economics and politics and busybody

the day most of the country learned the name alexander vindman.t-colonel was the one who sounded the alarm about what he heard on then president trump's july 25, 2019 phone call with ukraine president zelensky, which eventually led to president trump's first impeachment trial. and retired u.s. army lieutenant-colonel vindman joins us now, the author of the book "here right matters an american's story". good to have you here. >> thank you. >> i want to talk about the testimony, what you heard on the phone call, but we were just discussing what you said in that testimony, which is your immigrant story that your family came here, i think you were 3 years old, came to brooklyn. in that testimony you touched on something that was so important which was that you could speak out in this country, something that your father felt you couldn't do because of his own experience in the soviet union. >> i think the immigrant story is so important to so many americans. very few can claim that they're native. that's a common thread that ties us all together. i tho

lieutenant colonel alexander vindman reflects on his decision to report the call to the ukrainian president po president trump's first impeachment. later, more from freedomfest with duquesne university professor antony davies thoughts on the role of cooperation and coercion plate in our society. you can find more schedule information in your program guide or online at booktv.org. >> host: gary hoover is the author of this book, "the lifetime learner's guide to reading and learning." but before we get into the themes of the book, mr. hoover, in your biography says you live in in a 33 room house. 32 rooms of which contain books, 57,000 books in total. explain. >> guest: yeah, i'm afraid a few more came last week so i've got to be closer to 60,000. it's an addiction and there's no 12-step program for book collectors. >> host: so 33 room house though? >> guest: i found a good bargain on an abandoned community health clinic in the small town in texas. so it's got all these little exam rooms and they are just perfect for filling up. each room is a different subject and its a very unusual living a

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i think more with alexander vindman who supposed to be a heroic person who wore t the uniform shakingt, i'll leave you with this, he posted a picture of him and his brother, i did note tweedle the and tweedledum knew the barbarian. that's quitete a fairytale. sean: thank you for joining me i appreciate it and i thank you for your service. up next leaked audio shows abiding administration knows the border crisis is out of control and unsustainable. former white house stephen miller joins uson next. ♪ welcome to allstate. (phone notification) where we've just lowered our auto rates. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ and savings like that will have you jumping for joy. now, get new lower auto rates with allstate. because better protection costs a whole lot less. you're in good hands with allstate. click or call for a lower auto rate today. ♪ music playing. ♪ there's an america we build ♪ ♪ and one we explore one that's been paved and one that's forever wild but freedom means you don't have to choose just one adventure ♪ ♪ you get both. introducing the all-new 3-row jeep grand cherokee l jeep. there's only one. gr

to get to this hour just in a few moments, i will be speaking with retired lieutenant colonel alexander vindmand trump and the president of ukraine. it was those notes that ultimately led to donald trump's first impeachment for trying to pressure the ukrainian president into announcing a politically damaging investigation into joe biden. colonel vindman is now

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lieutenant colonel alexander vindman, who testified in the first impeachment trial against former president show" live at 9:00 p.m. eastern tonight on msnbc. but first, "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. >>> tonight, on "all in." the nationwide rise in covid cases continues and so does the red-state race to the bottom. >> we've got republican governors, across this country, pretending they didn't shut down their states. >> tonight, the republican governor actually doing the best job holding the delta variant at bay. then, surgeon general vivek murthy on a genuine vaccine surge across america. plus, new yorker's jane mayor on the dark money funding the big lie. and why is this congresswoman about to spend her fifth-straight night sleeping on the steps of the capitol? >> we can't go on recess. we can't go on vacationhe

lieutenant colonel alexander vindman, who testified in the first impeachment trial against former president donald trump about his phone call with the president of ukraine joins "the rachel maddow show" live at 9:00 p.m. eastern tonight on msnbc. but first, "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. >>> tonight, on "all in." the nationwide rise in covid cases continues and so does the red-state race to the bottom. >> we've got republican governors, across this country, pretending they didn't shut down their states. >> tonight, the republican governor actually doing the best job holding the delta variant at bay. then, surgeon general vivek murthy on a genuine vaccine surge across america. plus, new yorker's jane mayor on the dark money funding the big lie. and why is this congresswoman about to spend her fifth-straight night sleeping on the steps of the capitol? >> we can't go on recess. we can't go on vacation when millions of people's lives are at risk. >>> congresswoman cori bush joins me live when "all in" starts right now. >>> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. as the delta v