yes, thank you very much yerevanych podlyako was in direct contact with us alexey alekseevich let's discusse is aspect you symbolically. i think we are with you. well somehow this is aspect well, and military-technical, if it doesn’t just seem that everything is connected, so to speak, military successes and morale, but this should not be directly one from the other directly. it arises, but in mariupol, as i understand it, this is such a heavy, painful loss. here is the symbolic sense of the fighting spirit, the capital of azov well, the military-technical one is not mine. and as for the symbols and meanings, i, perhaps, will try to formulate here. here olesya is very good. said all the time uh existential meaning in addition, and how, in fact, the fabric of war is formed, they asked this question. and it seemed to me. this is very important. the fact is that the nato model of conducting actions. it fits into a simple formula. we pay. do you remember fighting in the georgian war of the eighth year. there were excellent weapons. there were tactics, instructors, everything, and it would seem,

so let's alexei alekseevich any danger.'t know, but it seems to me that there are any negotiations that are taking place. they do not pass in a vacuum, yes. they're going to, if we're in this environment for uh with the audience. oh yes, in which consultations actually take place. we will change this situation a little . well, yes, it will be worse, as the russian cossacks in paris said, sharman actually indeed after the refusal, uh, last december by all nato member countries of collective security. uh, not with these lips, they can't, in principle, talk about safety. uh, of course, all these provocations are delaying the negotiations. uh, they run into one simple latin still ancient truth, and to whom and what is beneficial, but is the situation in kramatorsk beneficial to russia of course not, on the contrary, it means that you should look for ears, uh, that stick out of this situation on that side. who benefits from it. uh, is it profitable for russia dragging out negotiations and changing the rules of the game, along th

let's end the war then, this special operation. sorry, but then we will negotiate with these people , negotiations are absolutely pointless everywhere and not what alexei alekseevich about well, yes, i have already touched on this topic, but in the west they are well aware of anacism in ukraine it is beneficial and it is used by anti-semitism in ukraine, whatever. if you encourage all this, if you are happy with how this anti-russia project looks, why don't they arrange such a small, so to speak, self-serving nato for ukraine in this way, pushing and giving strength. let's reinforce the negotiating position of the same position of the ukrainian side responsibility. now russia wants ukraine to fight with russia to the last ukrainian, to blame russia for this, naturally, to cut their hair for two reasons, they never had such a desire. in the first part, they mentioned that allegedly, but hmm , europeans. some suggested not to join nato and so on. sorry, both europe and the united states were not going to take ukraine into nato, now the situation is shows, they say, we will not intervene correctly then, if it was and remains that prevented them from responding to our