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as far as we can understand now, this swap was prepared to include alexei navalny but unfortunately he february. he was killed in a russian jail and was not included. >> sad for his family to hear those details today. dr. gold davis, could you explain to us the complexity of this? how difficult it is to bring 6, 7 countries together to pull off something of this magnitude? >> it is complex with respect to the sheer numbers of people being exchanged. as you said, it is also an additional layer of complexity that several other countries are involved and they had to negotiate with one another. it seems the kremlin fought for a deal with america and america would tell germany -- germany would simply do america's bidding. that was not the case. these were independent countries of course. there was a process of discussion and negotiation within the west, as well as with russia. in addition to that, i think it is very significant that it is not only the citizens of the two sides that have been exchanged, but a number of russian dissidents and activists, including people who had significant po

had been working on an earlier iteration of a deal that would have included russian dissident alexey navalnydied in prison in february. cnn's clarissa ward covered navalny extensively joins us now from tel aviv clarissa, i was surprised to hear how much jake said about where things were before alexey navalny's death do we know anything more about how close this came to actually getting across the finish line? >> well, i can tell you, phil because i was in communication with yulia navalnaya's team and others who were very closely working towards alexei's release as part of this broader swap and really up until his death, which came as a huge shock just so many there was a deep sense of optimism that this deal was going to be pulled off, that there were many different moving parts, but that all of the stars might just align in such a way that would allow for navalny to be released along with the others who we saw today. and i think it's a demonstrator striation of the huge heart of the navalny's family that they released this statement today saying that they wept with tears of joy to see vladi

what do you make of that. —— alexei navalny.ry, and it was discussed back then and then germany also said they are not interested currently by anybody else except for alexei navalny. as far as we can know and understand now, this swap was prepared to include alexei navalny, but unfortunately he died in february he was killed in a russian jail. in february he was killed in a russianjail. he was not in february he was killed in a russian jail. he was not included in february he was killed in a russianjail. he was not included in that. sat russian “ail. he was not included in that. ., , ., , russian “ail. he was not included in that. ., , ., ., that. sat for his family to hear those details _ that. sat for his family to hear those details today. _ that. sat for his family to hear those details today. could - that. sat for his family to hear those details today. could you explain to us just the complexity of this, how difficult it is to bring 6-7 this, how difficult it is to bring 6—7 countries together to pull off something of this

days later they learned alexei navalny died. they never proposed that deal to the russian officials who thought they were close. then it collapsed and they had to move on to a plan b. and that's what's been happening in recent months with a number of meetings. the president wrote the chancellor a letter in really trying to pull all of this together. at the end of june, they finally thought they had an offer to give to russia that they might actually accept and they did. they told the u.s. on july 17 that they would accept that offer. just through the context of what was going on at that time, that's the day president biden tested positive for covid while traveling out west. so he was sick and he was traveling back to his home in delaware and recovering from that. all of this was going on behind the scenes. at that point the white house notified the families that something was happening. so when jake sullivan called them on this past tuesday and wednesday and invited them to the white house to come there today, he didn't say exac

alexei navalny, the most prominent russian opposition figure, he was in discussions. and then of course he very sadly died in a russian prison in february, eventually, the u.s got around to pressuring germany enough to release krasikov so that by the time june came along, so just a month-and-a-half ago, the cia went to russia with this final proposal i'm told that a couple of weeks later in a phone call with bill burns and early july, they accepted it in principle, there were a couple of details that still needs to be worked out and then finally, jim and in a meeting in mid-july, again between the cia and russian intelligence on turkish soil they accepted the deal, and now we're seeing it play out in real time. i'm told burns will be on the tarmac tonight with the president was one of the many facets to this deal is this was a big give for germany. kraskov is someone who committed murder in broad daylight on a german streets in another assassination on european soil here. so that was a big ask for germany and germany that well, they abided by the president's requests.

alexei navalny was such a hiuh rofile the deal.he deal. alexei navalny was such a high profile political prisoner- the deal. alexei navalny was such a high profile political prisoner that i high profile political prisoner that he was initially learning and supposed to be part of this deal. when he died that really sent officials back to the table to try to begin piecing together another dl of a similar magnitude that could help to move this forward.- of a similar magnitude that could help to move this forward. thank you ve much help to move this forward. thank you very much for— help to move this forward. thank you very much for giving _ help to move this forward. thank you very much for giving us _ help to move this forward. thank you very much for giving us all that - very much for giving us all that context. foreign policy magazine. let's turn to the us election now. vice—president kamala harris says she's �*deeply honoured' to have secured enough delegates to win the democratic party nomination. next — she'll be nominating her

alexei navalny, tomorrow marks six months after his death, the anniversary of his death.re's a number of events planned to mark that. how will you mark it and what's the message? >> the message was given by alexei navalny himself in the documentary film in which you know, he gave an interview just before returning from germany to russia back in january of 2021. he said never give up. if this happens, i am killed, never give up. and putin has now killed two opponents. two major russian opposition lea leaders, boris, who was murdered in front of the kremlin literally 2015 and now alexei navalny this year in the penal colony in the russian far north and let's not forget that the regime we have in the kremlin today is not just authoritarian regime, a dictatorship, it's a regime led by a murderer, but as boris always believed, alexei navalny believed and as i always believed and will continue to believe, russia will be free. russia will be democratic. the arc of history may not bend as fast as we like, but it does bend towards freedom. no question about it. i am absolutely con

and of course, they watched the experience of alexey navalny who did die in a russian prison, in a russian penal colony. and i would just say we should have a moment for yulia navalny and their daughter, dasha and son. given that i am certain they are happy for these families as they would be. but there also has to be a part of them that just wishes alexey navalny might have been part of such a deal, how he survived more than a part. >> certainly it would be for me if i were them. thank you so much for all of your excellent reporting and expertise. thank you for joining us here on this. very, very important day on inside politics. we are standing by for a press briefing at the white house with national security adviser jake sullivan. and of course, we will bring it to you live when it happens. don't go anywhere. cnn news central will begin right after a quick break from pep in their step to shine in their coats. and people switch their dogs foods, the farmer's dog, the effects can seem like magic but there's no magic it's just smarter, healthier pet food. it's amazing what real food can do

they had started talking about getting alexei navalny in exchange for vadim krasikov and then navalny dies in february. and so biden and sullivan and the cia director bill burns and roger carstens, all trying to push germany on the cross. a foot cough question. while trying to assemble this cast of other russians, they could exchange in the end, we're told the white house confirmed today that scholtz, the chancellor of germany, told biden for you, i will do this. so when we see sullivan and crying, i don't think it's just because of the emotion of the day and these americans coming home and that he's so close to this, but it's also because they'd been working so incredibly hard for so long to get to hear. >> it struck me though, julia, that when we saw sullivan and human he was asked about where this idea of making this a large-scale swap originate. he wouldn't give a direct response. he wouldn't give the united states credit for making this such a large deal. do you think it originated with russia well, we know that russia wanted krasikov to alex's point. >> he's a uniformed fsb offi

reporter: and was alexei navalny supposed to be a part of this deal before he died in prison? mr.livan: so, we had been working with our partners on a deal that would have included alexei navalny, and, unfortunately, he died. in fact, on the very day that he died, i saw evan's parents, and i told them that the president was determined to get this done even in light of that tragic news and that we were going to work day and night to get to this day. and so, that work continued over the course of the past few months and culminated in today. reporter: you mentioned it a little bit, but can you describe and give us a little bit more color on that oval office conversation just before the president came out? did all four americans get to speak? did each of the family members get to speak to their loved ones? did the president tear up? did you tear up? mr. sullivan: i saved my tearing up for this podium. [laughter] i would like to strike that from the record if we could. i don't know if that's permitted. probably not. so, the president invited the family members in at the moment that we

the name alexei navalny was then thrown into the mix. the germans really wanted navalny navalny had gone to germany when he left russia. then, of course, he eventually went back. there was never a formal proposal. i'm told with navalny's name in it, and the germans were very reluctant to give up this assassin who had carried out a killing of a chechen, former chechen fighter on german soil in berlin. but that pressure that jake sullivan was talking about with that pressure with these conversations with the germans, the germans eventually came around and then finally agreed, i'm told in june to give up krasikov a large reason. i believe is also because instead of navalny of vladimir kara murza was released along with other opposition figures by the russians. this is a very important thing for germany. this is why we're seeing this extraordinary trade play out. but no doubt that that intelligence channel was key to what we're seeing unfold today. >> kim something that jake sullivan sort of repeated throughout his remarks was the importance

believes by russian authorities, and they look at the case, they look at the case of alexey navalny, a russian penal colony. and i just a moment, erin, i think today sort of award of sympathy for yulia navalny and their daughter dasha, and their son, watching this unfold, i am certain they are happy for these families, but there has to be part of them deep down that wishes that alexey navalny was still alive and he might be part of such a prisoner swap. it's got to be a difficult moment for them incredibly difficult because we do know from the reporting some of which done done by christo grozev and others who are so close to that family that they originally there was a time in which vladimir putin thought that he could exchange vadim krasikov, the convicted assassin in germany for alexey navalny, that, that perhaps they were on the eve of that when navalny died and that family so close to perhaps having that joy in their lives denied that it is a moment to consider that i do want to say we can confirm now that vladimir kara-murza is on this list has been transferred. >> so that incred

that was in november of 2009 and of course, we all know the story of alexey navalny. alexey navalny was also a friend of mine and ally ally of ours in the, in the, in the campaign for justice for sergei magnitsky. we don't know what happened in the prison camp in siberia, but we know that he will one day he was alive and fine and the next day he was dead can say is that russian prisons are very, very rough places and terrible place for vladimir kara murza, my friend who has been released today, terrible place for, for evan gershkovich have terrible place for paul whelan and these are places where people die. it's not, it's not an unknown thing to have happened they're very, very unpleasant and so this, this, this is a real achievement to get these individuals out and the only sad part about the whole story is that for those people who've gotten out, there's a lot of other people were still sitting there in prison rotting away phil, please stand by. >> i want to bring in our panel and kim, on this point. i mean, it is truly stomach turning to think about the conditions

one of those times in the wake of russian opposition leader alexey navalny's death. and whelan spoke candidly than about his own fears that he could also be killed extremely troubling that someone like navalny would die under suspicious circumstances. but it's also extremely worrying for me. this is this total thing that goes on here. >> let's bring in right now cnn contributor, former cnn moscow bureau chief jill doherty, cnn national security analyst steve hall, and cnn political national security analyst david sanger is back with us as well steve, want to start with you, just give me your your reaction and what you're thinking about in this moment as we are all waiting for this one volt yeah, i think everything that alex and other reporters have been talking about is absolutely the case. >> i've seen these things happened before. they're extremely complicated. it's not easy for those of us on the outside because these negotiations and then the arrangements, shared agreements be made are extremely or very close held. but i think it's really important also to remembe

and then alexey navalny died that, that, that transaction could have happened to alexey navalny, your dear friend could have could have come out and that that would have been the way the story went it did not. and i know that is a bitter, bittersweet moment for you, even as you have joy for those who are released, that this did not happen. and alexey navalny died in russian prison. but how did that affect this deal? >> it almost torpedo the deal because the original concept was to create this multinational multistate transaction, which would include the person that putin really wants back, deliberate by germany to russia. but germany wanted to do this transaction or this deal only they could get putin's biggest enemy out incarceration and alive. and would navalny dying in jail? of course, this made the german attitude to this whole deal much, much less interested. and it was, it was there were difficult for this to be revised, revised, germany took the higher moral ground here and said, we will continue pursuing this deal. however, now, putting must pay a much higher price and instead

four others worked with alexei navalny, a political opposition leader that died in russian prison this year. now, they can live safely abroad and continue their work of advocating for democracy if they so choose. this deal would not have been possible without our allies. germany, poland, slovenia, norway, turkey. they all stepped up and stood with us. they stood with us. they made a bold, brave decisions. to release prisoners that were held in the country, justifiably held, and provide logistical support to get americans own. for anyone who questions if our allies matter, they do matter. today is a powerful example of why it is important reference in this world -- why it is important to have friends in this world that you can trust, work with, and depend upon. our alliances make our people safe. we have began to see that again today. let me say this, it says a lot about the united states that we work relentlessly to free americans unjustly held around the world and it says a lot about us that this deal includes the release of russian political prisoners that stood up for democracy and

wasn't alexei navalny supposed to reporter: be a part of this deal before he died? mr. sullivan: we had been working with our partners on a deal that would have included alexei navalny. and unfortunately he died. in fact, on the very day that he died, i saw his parents and i told them that the president was determined to get this done even in light of the tragic news and that we were going to work a day and night to get to this day. that work continued over the course of the past few months and culminated today. reporter: can you describe the cover of that oval office conversation just before the president came out with the americans, did the president tear up, did you tear up? [laughter] mr. sullivan: i am tearing up on this podium. i would like to strike that from the record. i don't know if that is permitted or not. [laughter] so the president invited the family members in at the moment that we received the word from the tarmac in ankara that the exchange was complete. he was able to give that knows directly, that the exchange was, in fact, complete. then paul, evan

they really do think that putin would have been loath to swap alexei navalny for anybody. erybody in russia that you could stand up to putin and the matter what price he tried to impose on you you could still continue to soldier on. navalny was such a uniquely common in many ways, courageous voice. although we have to keep in mind that other courageous voices have now been released from russia. they are leading dissidents, great moral voices from russia who putin arrested and who are now safe. this is really a great coup getting these people out. putin i think calculated that navalny was a different level of threat, that navalny was so well known internationally that navalny was just — had internationally that navalny wasjust — had become such internationally that navalny was just — had become such a symbol of courage that he could not live with navalny alive so he had him killed before any prisoner swap could have occurred.— prisoner swap could have occurred. ., , ,., occurred. indeed. professor steve fish _ occurred. indeed. professor steve fish from _ occurred. indeed. p

the opposition politician who became the face of the anticoagulant resolution in the death of alexei navalnyy five years. this is the scene in bohn. it is scheduled to start around now. we'll bring you that life as soon as it goes under way. we think some will be in english, but very interesting to hear what those russian dissidents who have now been released president putin in the russian authorities, what they have to say about the putin regime, but also about that huge swap deal. dirst russia editor of bbc monitoring, vitali shevchenko. please tell us about the three men who are going to be giving this conference and what they were facing in russia. they must be exhilarated to be free, although sad of course in many ways to be leaving their homeland. absolutely, you're totally right to use the word prominent. they are absolutely key figures in the russian opposition. i look at them one by one. vladimir kara—muza is kind of the intellectual force of russian division, or what's left of it. he's always been open and criticising. particularly the war in ukraine. it was a speech he gave in ari

prisoner swap would be on the agenda for the meeting, and the goal was for a deal to include alexei navalny and the release of vadim krasikov. things changed after alexei na valueny was found, and that really knocked the sails -- the wind out of the sails of the negotiations. when navalny died, the idea of a swap involving navalny and vadim krasikov, as well as whelan and gershkovich, the white house had to agree to a plan b. there was a lot of back and forth over the next few months, and as we were told, this was ongoing up until the last couple of days, chris, that the president was on the phone with slovenian officials just an hour before he announced that he was stepping aside from the presidential race. because you can imagine how much of a dramatic moment that was. also, earlier this year, we heard from a senior administration official that the german chancellor told president biden that for you, i will do this, signaling just how big of a stepping -- just a big step that president biden had to do in order to get the germans on board, so, chris, again, this is being seen as a win for

months ago, it was believed that they were willing to do this because they wanted to trade him for alexei navalnyo of course died before this was possible. and so it took some persuading of germany and the other countries involved, too, but particularly germany to go along with this and you will see that five of the people, prisoners released from russia are either dual or russian german citizens or german citizens and many wait for alexei navalny�*s association. you talk about the role germany platelets of the german chancellor to go ahead and release a convicted russian assassin was very hard. this was not an easy decision for him? it very hard. this was not an easy decision for him?— all. decision for him? it was not at all- germany _ decision for him? it was not at all. germany is _ decision for him? it was not at all. germany is a _ decision for him? it was not at all. germany is a sovereign . all. germany is a sovereign country and this was their prisoner and essentially the us was asking germany to give them up was asking germany to give them up in return for these american hostages, paulw

the name alexei navalny, the russian can opposition leader. he was added into the mix but that was going to take a lot of pressure on the germans to get them to release krasikov. you can see right there on your screen. now, navalny died as kylie said, that delta is severe blow to these negotiations, but they powered forward. and then in june, i'm told for the first time, the cia put forward the first proposal with krasikov in it, it was then accepted last month in another meeting in turkey between the cia and russian intelligence. and then we saw what unfolded today on that tarmac and anchor pamela, we did indeed alex mark marquardt. thank you so much. now, there's someone with first ten experience with prisoner swaps. we're joined by the former director of national intelligence, james clapper so you've been involved in prisoner swaps, including when you fluid north carolina? north carolina, and north korea to bring home to us captives and give us your perspective on the magnitude of today's prisoner swap involving 24 people in seven countries

today vice president harris spoke with the widow of alexei navalny. according to the phone call's read-out, the vice president commended navalny for her courage in continuing her husband's work for justice in the rule of law in russia. vice president harris was in houston today where she gave the eulogy. she said this before leaving washington to meet with president biden and welcome the freed americans home. >> as president biden announced earlier today, they were unjustly held in russia, they will soon be reunited with their loved ones. they and their families have shown incredible courage. russian authorities arrested, convicted them in sham trials. and sentenced them to long prison terms. this has been an appalling perversion of justice. over many years president biden and i and our team has engaged in complex diplomatic negotiations to bring these people home. we never stopped fighting for their release. and today, inspite of all of their suffering, it gives me great comfort to know that they are horrible ordeal is finally over. this exchange also

living in exile not going back to russia any time soon. >> it's hard to think alexei navalny could havebrittney griner said great day. we'll talk more about it later. head over heels. happy for the americans. a day the americans come home, that's a win. that's a win. she would know. she is in the olympics. so thrilled because she always talked about the fellow members. in the back of her book is a list of people still detained. she was still working for them. let me have you close this out and talk about vice president harris. she played a role quote from nbc, she met with the chancellor of germany in munich to help pave the way. she's also met with the prime minister of slovenia to help bring them into the negotiations. that is her qualifications. she has this experience under her belt not talking on a fake twitter account but actually doing good work. i think that should stand her in good stead with the voters. what do you think? >> she has been part of the biden national security team and now she is seeing the reveals she has been a leader in so many circumstances. she has laid out a

and we of course all know what happened to alexei navalny who was killed in february.any people know what happened to my lawyer. and so, my biggest fear was death. and the fact he was able to walk out of russia onto an airplane and go to germany where he is getting medical treatment right now is just the biggest relief of my life. >> i know you wouldn't know what the doctors have said, but do you have any update from the family? >> i spoke to his wife today. i spoke to his mother. they all say that he is in good spirits. and he is joking and so on. it is really hard for anyone to tell over the phone his wife isn't going to get to germany until tomorrow at the earliest. his mother should be there tomorrow morning. hopefully, we'll get a bigger update. he has been kept in very, very bad conditions for a very long time. in a situation where his health was more frail. and so, i think it is going to be a road to recovery for him. now he is free. just praying he bounces back. hopefully this will get him into a normal state. >> why do you think he decided to release these pri

what your take is on that because we know that negotiations almost fell apart after the death of alexei navalny, who was the most prominent critic and opposition leader against putin, would you assume the inclusion of the other opposition figures was away to keep germany at that table after navalny was killed apparently in a russian prison ? >> i would be speculating but i'm sure between ambassador karstens and jake sullivan and the other players involved, dr. liz sherwood-randall would be involved. i'm sure they came up with different ideas to throw up against negotiating team and offered different things to the germans. i'm sure there were a few different options to get everybody satisfied where this was going to come across the finish line. getting back to what the ambassador said earlier, i can't in another case in recent history that is anywhere near as complex in the negotiation, also the recovery and different planes going back to different locations. very little leaked out in advance, which is incredibly impressive as well. >> yeah, they're so much impressive about this. i will say, amb

alexei navalny, the death of the russian opposition leader nearly scuppered the deal? right. he was such an important global figure, a high profile political prisoner in russia. initially, he was supposed to be part of this deal. when he died, that scrambled officials back to the table to begin to piece together another deal of a similar magnitudehat could help to move this forward. steve: thanks very much, amy. to the u.s. election. vice president harris says she is on to have secured enough delegates. she will be nominating her pick for vice president. governor josh shapiro of pennsylvania is on the shortlist, as is mark kelly, governor of arizona, and tim walz, governor of minnesota. kamala harris and whoever she chooses will set off on a tour of battleground states next week. jamie harrison, chair of the dnc, expressed delight with having vice president harris confirmed as the nominee. jamie: as chair of this great party built on hope, i'm so proud to confirm vice president harris has earned more thathe majority of votes from all f are mentioned delegates -- from a

four others were with alexei navalny, a russian political leader who died in prison this year. decisions, release prisoners being held in their countries who were justifiably being held and provided critical support to get the americans home. so for anyone who questions whether allies matter, they do! questions whether allies matter, the do! , �* , , ., ,, they do! president biden speaking within the last _ they do! president biden speaking within the last hour— they do! president biden speaking within the last hour from - they do! president biden speaking within the last hour from the - they do! president biden speakingl within the last hour from the white house also built about allies and mentioned among them turkey, and from a turkish perspective, let's speak now to journalist victoria cragg in ankara. thank you very much forjoining us today. and i was mentioning a few minutes ago that new line from turkish security sources say the process of exchanging 2a prisoners and two children there in ankara is completed. do you know in terms of the logistics what's actually happening

russia, even pushing to have him released in 2022. >> but the death of russian opposition leader alexei navalnyprison in february setback negotiations since the german government wanted navalny in exchange for krasikov on the very day that he died, i saw evan's parents and i told them that the president was determined to get this done even in light of that tragic news, two weeks ago, russia finally agreed to the deal. years of intense efforts finally paying off. now this massive prisoner swap is incredibly joyful for the families of the americans who have been released from russia but for the families of americans who are still detained in russia, it has been an emotional, incredibly challenging time for them one of those families is the family of marc fogel. he is an american serving a 14 year prison sentence in russia, facing charges of smuggling drugs. his family says, however, that he was carrying marijuana into the country for medical purposes and they came out with a statement after the news of this prisoner swap and the fact that he wasn't included in it saying, quote, marc is not rich,

i recall that shortly after the death of the opposition leader alexei navalny, one of his close associates made a claim that a trade was in the works, that involved some of these americans, and other russian political prisoners, and alexei navalny, so getting him out of the country and president putin has been asked about this as well. keir simmons asked him back in march after the russian presidential election, when putin was re-elected, asked him about gershkovich and asked him about navalny and president putin said that he essentially his aides came to him with a proposal for a trade that involved navalny, these americans, that we had mentioned. and he said that he instantly said yes to this. but then navalny sadly died and the trade didn't go through. so i think there will be interesting things to re-examine in light of that now, how this came together, how long this has been going on. but the big question to me, jose, is why right now. >> yeah. if you would, everyone, stay with us. we have got a whole lot more to go through, throughout this hour as we get up to the minute information

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, and then alexei navalny died in a russian prison. if that is true, ostensibly that would suggest that putin has been looking towards a negotiation like this for some time. now, we also know that putin has been wanting to see the release of a man called vadin, the russian hitman, assassin who's in a jail in germany. he maybe was on the cards to be swapped with navalny back before navalny died, according to pruitt's answer. putin hasn't directly said that's the man he wants but he has certainly suggested it, and called him a patriot, called this russian in a german jail for murder a patriot. so that gives you a clue about the kind of complexity. i heard the ambassador talking about germany. he's in a german jail. what you might be trying to figure out if you're the state department and the white house trying to inch toward an agreement, might be figuring out how you could get the germans to agree to release him, and who else might need to be released and that gives you a picture of why this may look like, as we look ahead today, it may

this exchange also includes the release of russian prisoners, including those who worked with alexei navalny. i spoke with alexei's widow to discuss the significance of their release. as i told her, this being an additional time from previous conversations with her, the united states stands with all of those who are fighting for freedom in russia. as we sill cel brat today's news, we must also keep front of mind that there are other americans that are unjustly being held in places around the world. we will never stop fighting for their release. as vice president, it has been my honor to work alongside our president joe biden to bring home more than 70 americans in the last 3 1/2 years. we will never waiver in our commitment to bring home every american who has been wrongfully detained or held hostage. that is my solemn commitment to my fellow americans, which i will always honor. thank you all. >> that was kamala harris. that's her first comment today, and it was very specific about the release of the hostages. bill, you have spent a lot of time thinking about how vladimir putin and his cron

later about that situation, and president putin said when the idea was brought to him to trade alexei navalny including evan gershkovich and other americans, he said he was for it, but sadly navalny died. we heard this claim before putin addressed it coming from navalny's camp early on after his passing. then it disappeared from the narrative until putin brought it up again. so a lot of interesting questions about how long this has been in the work and how alexei navalny's death played into it. russia is clearly concerned with primarily retrieving a hit man from the germans. that seems to be the cornerstone of the russian side of this trade as we understand their wish list here. but the assumption, i think, has been that if russia was going to try to engage with the united states on a large prisoner trade to get a bunch of mid-level cyber criminals and convicted spies from multiple countries back to russia, it would wait until after the u.s. election because the kremlin could decide when it was most advantageous to engage on this issue. it's unclear why they've moved on it at this time. if yo

but then they turned on alexei navalny , and, turned on alexei navalny, and, and jettisoned him, threwhich was a huge propaganda coup for putin. and you think this is the final nail in our. >> well, i think what happened is a really good point. >> and the question i advise every organisation you've got to have a very transparent way. how do you deal with these situations? as soon as it arrives, you can turn around and say, this is the procedure that we followed. was there investigation? either way, they're going to be suspended, we're going to get all the facts and so on and so forth. but the fact they haven't done anything as far as we can see to deal with it raises that whole sort of issue. and it does go to credibility. same with, you know, the bbc you have about that sort of thing. there's always going to be questions about how quickly did they act in certain situations, who's in there on whatsapp, questions like that. >> what's that? tom. but exactly you work a rough justice. >> you work on that sort of bafis >> you work on that sort of basis and what's going to happen each time. t

so when alexei navalny dies in jail, an our great reporter, jenny hansler, gets a call from paul whelanjail and he expresses his concerns that that could happen to him. that is part of putin's theater. it is great journalists that work at. cnn. but by gen. in particular, to get that call. but what it reveals is that putin is willing to cynically manipulate and exploit the situation. this delicate process of trying to organize there's this prisoner exchange by essentially holding up a prisoner who is saying i'm worried now about my safety and security. it's an implicit threat and this is, this is true, putin. so when you try to analyze what does putin get for this? and is this a step towards a pause? possible path for diplomacy, for peace in ukraine? you who really have to understand how putin approaches all of this. remembering the last time that he negotiated peace on ukraine, his negotiators were sitting around the table in minsk in belorussia. and at the same time, his forces were fighting on the ground to tell eight more territory. so this is a very manipulative situation and what w

others, released by russia kremlin critic vladimir kara murza, and the number of associates of alexey navalny, the white house says, he was meant to be part of the deal before his death in a russian prison my russia won the release of eight prisoners held in the west. >> president vladimir putin greeted them thursday in moscow, freedom for convicted assassin, not deem krata gauff, who was jailed in germany, was critical to getting putin to agree to this deal. others included the russians convicted of espionage slovenia, and cybercrimes in the u.s and there's nada bashir joins us now in london. what's, what's the process now then for the americans? because you know, great news that their home absolutely. >> and we saw in that video footage of the three americans returning a bit landing there. i mean, this isn't julius moment of the family members there. they were greeted, of course, by president biden and vice president kamala harris. all smiles at an emotional reunion, of course, for the family members waiting on the tarmac that they were given, of course, a moment to be reunited with their f

. >> reporter: sullivan revealing that fierce putin critic alexei navalny was a part of an original proposal before he died in a russian prison in february. later saying no money was exchanged and no sanctions were loosened to secure today's release, but with criticism that these swaps incentivize america's adversaries to take more prisoners, sullivan acknowledged the challenging decision. >> we have assessed and analyzed that risk, and we have judged that the benefit of reuniting americans, of bringing people home, that that benefit outweighs the risk. >> reporter: former president trump tonight did not embrace the news. instead on social media slammed the negotiators, saying they're always an embarrassment to us. president biden earlier snapping back when pressed about mr. trump's repeated claims that he could have gotten the prisoners out of russia without concessions. paul whelan had been held since mr. trump's time in office. >> why didn't he do it when he was president? >> reporter: for president biden, the legacy achievement. for the freed americans, a long-awaited homecoming. peter a

vitaly, if i understood you correctly, there is a possibility that alexei navalny... well, let's say,ould have died in connection with this exchange, assuming, i believe, that he died in connection with they just laughed at the event, huh. as for the fact that they already understood that krasikov would be released, please, yes, yes, yes, that krasikov will be released, but at the same time they will not give navalny's symbol, but at the same time they will not give navalny, of course, this was their main idea, that in principle the parameters of the exchange are clear, this exchange will take place at all, because biden is interested in this, the americans need to be released, but without navalny, well, it was such a cynical, cruel game of theirs. on the other hand, i have always told you and i will say now that i do not understand the logic of people at all, i will never be convinced by it, who go to prison and then, realizing that they will be put in prison, and then they will have to pay for them, let's say, all these russian bandits and spies, well... navalny returned to russia f

another fairly well-known figure worth mentioning didn't live to see this exchange, alexei navalny, a russian figure who, according to people with possibly sources who say his name was, was discussed as a subject of an exchange that concerns ukraine, as we see, from the side of ukraine. there was no participation here, at least obviously, maybe some details will appear later, we also see that until now the exchanges of prisoners between ukraine and russia, as a rule, did not have any western or russian spies there, that is, now we we are discussing a typically such example of the cold war era. in exchange for political prisoners, the situation is mostly like this. thank you bohdan. i will remind you that bohdan tsyupin told us about the role of european countries in the exchange of prisoners between russia and the west. and to another topic. in in the united states on thursday, delegates to the democratic national convention began online voting to officially nominate kamala. candidate for president from the party. the process will last several days and should be completed by august 5.

instrumental role in these negotiations, particularly talking to yulia navalnaya, the widow of alexei navalny, who's members of their movement. many of them were freed today. they spoke today on the phone as well. they believe allies matter and they can advance america's national interest. mr. trump doesn't really believe in allies. he wants to break up our alliances. i think today proves allies matter and two, diplomacy matters. even sometimes diplomacy with people that you radically disagree with, like mr. putin and his entourage. these this team believes in diplomacy. mr. trump is not that interested. i think the choice is pretty clear for the american people. i'm not saying one's better or the other. i know what i think is better, but the choice is clear. they have very different foreign policy perspectives, unlike, by the way, previous elections when there was kind of mushy, it wasn't clear if there rearward differences. this time the differences are crystal clear. it's fascinating. thank you so much. michael mcfaul. the former ambassador to russia from the united states. appreciate your

four others work with alexei navalny. political opposition either died in russia prison this year now they can live safely abroad and continue their work of advocating for democracy if they so choose they still would not have been made possible without our allies. germany poland, slovenia, norway and turkey. they all stepped up and they stood with us they stood with us, and they made bold and brave decisions, released prisoners being held in their countries or justifiably being held and provided logistical support to get the americans home so for anyone who questions whether allies matter, they do they matter. today is a powerful example of why it's vital to have friends in this world. friends you can trust, work with, and depend upon especially in matters of great consequence sensitivity. like this. our alliances make our people safer, and we began to see that again today. let me say this it says a lot about the united states that we work relentlessly to free americans who are unjustly h d aroun the world. it also says a

produjo en enero de 2024, cuando biden habla con el canciller aleman sobre el al opositor ruso alexei navalny muere dos semanas despues y estados unidos busca un plan b, la liberacion de alemanes que son presos politicos en rusia es fundamental. >> en junio, alemania acepta, estados unidos envia la pr propuesta a rusia y hace dos semanas. >> el acuerdo queda listo a este exmilitar le preocupa que la negociacion pueda sentar un mal precedente no quieres instalar un incentivo perverso para que rusia o cualquier otro regimen piensa que la forma que pueden negociar con estados unidos es tomando presos americanos y despues negociando su salida. >> pero celebra la liberacion de los estadounidenses como los companeros de hershikovich, el periodista de the wall street journal, y como los familiares de los cuatro. >> eso es esto es a estados unidos? >> estarian regresando esta noche, antes de la companeros de como los cuatro. >> rogelio, entonces, ¿quienes estarian llegando a estados unidos? >> estadounidenses arantxa y alli de la medianoche, los tres ciudadanos alli los estarian esperando, ni mas ni