let's bring back alexis mcgill johnson and sam seder. alexis.ithdraw from afghanistan. good news or just a reminder of what we do it will still be a bloody mess. >> it's a bloody mess, and why do we need troops when we have drones. >> john: sam, what do you have to say to that one? that's the most common sense answer that scares me. >> the fact of the matter we have not done really anything in afghanistan in terms of further any security goals for years. if the president ran on expanding afghanistan, and people gave him a pass on that from the left because we wanted iraq done we should be taking out all of our troops from afghanistan. it does not necessarily mean that i appreciate the stealth war that we're waging, but-- >> john: you mean the new normal? >> indeed. sadly the fact that we had 65,000 troops in afghanistan is also the new normal. i do a daily show and it never comes up. it's okay, we have 60,000 troops. >> it's like the afghan war is a reality show that nobody watches, everybody hates it. it costs way too much, and it's renewed eve