amy: alexis mcgill johnson, as we wrap up, let's look into the future here.n't exactly need a crystal ball, but if essentially roe v. wade were so undermined or overturned by the supreme court, how these trigger laws in about half the states will impact abortion availability in the country -- planned parenthood has ndreds of clinics around the country. >> yes. planned parenthood has hundreds of clinics and there are number of independent providers in the south and midwest where these trigger bans and laws will take effect. as i said, we have seen and playing out in texas right now most people in texas having to travel thousands of miles to new mexico, california, oregon, vermont just to get access to determine their own future. so we're are putting a tremendous burden on people to move out of state and gain access to abortion. again, it is going to impact the people who can least afford the ability to move out of state as well. amy: alexis mcgill johnson, thank you for being with us, president and ceo of the planned parenthood federation of america and the pl

for more on these historic stakes, we get perspective from alexis mcgill johnson, president of the plannedaction fund, and marjorie dannenfelser, president of the susan b. anthony list. welcome to you both. thanks for being here. marjorie, is this the moment antiabortion activists have been waiting half a century for? what is the best outcome for you? >> after 50 years of not being able to allow the will of t people to make its way into law in the states, this seems like the best opportunity to overturn roe v. wade. the effect of that will be to return to the states their ability to do just that, and claws that reflect the will of the people in each state. so we are hopeful, hoping there is a complete overturn, at a minimum a partial overturn. when that happens it will put us in line with the rest of the world. 47 out of 50 european countries limit abortion before 15 weeks. we don't limit it at any point. amna: alexis, given the fractured landscape of abortion rights across the country, if the court moves to limit row or overturn it, what is at stake? >> 36 million people will be living in