raymond: alfonse d'amato was concerned with local issues. other was into the great international issues of the day. they were an interesting couple in the senate that way. they played up against each other as you can see in that clip. one thing the senate did was bring posters. they are followed by somebody carrying an easel and posters because they want to illustrate their speech. usually, it is a graph or a chart or something conventional. in senate alfonse d'amato's case, it was a large, pink pig. he used to keep the senate in session late at night. sometimes all around the clock particularly that year he was running for reelection. often on issues that had to do with constituents in new york and that helped them win his reelection. brian: both of you are retired from the government. what are you doing in retirement? donald: i am not retired. i run the robert c. byrd center. we have senator byrd's papers. he's the longest-serving senator in the united states history. and held more leadership positions than any other member of the united s