alfred fisk. the cofounder of the church. we will be giving both photos of each one of them and the robe of dr. thurman and the robe of dr. fisk. >> it is wonderful. we have one minute. we cannot go without mentioning the 139 psalms. why did he love that so much? >> it is so intimate. searching me and knowing me. it is the walk, and he talks about the dark and light this. both the light and darkness are a light to me. he is dealing with the, for him. we all have dichotomies. that happens in life . we have dichotomies. he says, no. the darkness and light. the unity. >> you have to come back. and you have over the years. thank you. praise god. >> thank you. >> continue the tremendous work you are doing. we are learning from it. i hope you will be with us and continue with us next month. i am ron swisher. >>>