in rural pennsylvania i can't conceive of a place more entitled to have eight grade algebra with the opportunities of science and math and technology curriculum in san francisco we're the technology of technology industry when i told people at work where was was going tonight they are in absolute shock all the techs working in the field there are supporting a lot of the business and industry in our area they're in shock we need to think long and hard about this distribution thank you. >> (clapping) if you the next speaker could come. >> i'm a parent of two prospective kindergartener you're doing a disservice to students from protecting families in san francisco many of those kids are fully capable of x kelly n many magnets a lot of those kids education is their ticket out of poster by not providing them that all bra in eight grade and the opportunity for them that are ready you're not setting you them up to take into consideration call includes in high school and those taking calculus are on track to go into technology field all of their peers will have had algebra going go engineeri

one i want to say i hear the concerns of parents and students for algebra one for nifthd grade their xaer the traditional one and they're not the same thing i wish you had a chance to come and do agreeing bra i think you'd like it. >> final speaker. >> i'm a teacher at mission high and i've been teaching for approximately 12 years anothers sfusd i mean i had a speech ready but common core maethd is much different as far as magnets are concerned i'll focus on the placement test in particular if students skip out on algebra one in the ninth grade their skip out in a tremendous amount of concepts they won't cover if they take a test those are students from the private schools should take the algebra class it is our job as clamor teachers a level the playing field and champ the students i think this is really important canyon core mathematics teachers you're not drilling and doing it in memorization the old skills were not working so a lot of the districts have started to adapt that essential in you skip classes you've miss a lot of information and be detrimental to our chenl college. >>

algebra didn't stop my peers from their process or getting through the algebra this calculus t is unfounded if the numbers are increased by 16 percent every year but at the same time years ago over the same period of time so what we're doing is scaring everyone and also in one study at our leading universities 75 percent of people go to college. >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> hi, i'm the math department chair i've been teacher at mission and will for 8 years i want to say there's lived to no evidence in accelerating that reduce the classroom if you teach for depth students learn the procedural knowledge at myths we've been doing this a couple of years i've seen a wide variety of students from different backgrounds understand what they're learning to a deeper rich curriculum so you can't teach much when your teach with the brought of understanding it is what a real education should look like you vote on the contain core substance if you believe in the testimony of the common place core note allow the testimonies 69 acceleration to persist and do otherwise thank you very much. >> mi

teaching callous hear to address the issue of condensing math courses to commandment this leads to algebra and leaves no time for callous this is to condense precallous into advanced eel green before i knows your heard the mathematician i've had a key with the department of defense and now a teacher of california lose i want to say that you can't rush certain subject we have a lot of success a 90 percentage pass rate in ab callous the reason the students were very very well prepared if you try to throw some of the topics and give it a brief discussion they're not going to have the understanding i know this is a callous lesson we're used to talking about rotation and an one hundred and 80 decree turn sealed and switch to radius and now i want you to make a two pie turn i know you've lost you already you're not the only one that's lost our students are lost and that's what precallous is for they need time to not only have it briefly mentioned to work with the examples with the gore metric shapes it needs time to digest it is been any personal goal do send children into the fields of math and

if we could hold the applause to the end we'll hear from more speakers on the item of 8th's grade algebra (calling names) if i could please come up and press the button. >> yes. one minute per person. >> press the button. >> again commissioner president murase and commissioners and superintendent carranza i'm alison collin in the last week i've heard about parent reinstating the honors in our middle school as someone that taught forlism 20 years in and out of the district and a parent of two children i've heard something that has made me concerned bhoi experience when we have a two tier system kids get tracked into low-level classes a two-track system is boys no matter what is fair the schools have ended up 106r9 the students by in case and parent educational level a child's baurgsd shouldn't determine their future the education policy shouldn't help some at the accept of other i'm so proud that this district and want to make sure it stays that way. >> mr. collin. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> thank you commissioner president murase i believe the next 3 speakers want to yield tim

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it's tough to find an empty seat in this algebra class, one of the courses required to guarduate high school. >> you get more one on one attention and with a large class, you don't get that communication. >> 3 x minus 4. >> she wants to ease congestion and trim class size. some like the idea. >> i feel close with the students and the teacher. it's a better experience. >> the county won't pride enough funding for the needs. when it comes to spending per student, we are the lowest in our region. they pay about $10,000 per pupil. nearly double that and the school board right here considering a list some cut from the budget. >> nobody talks about it. >> not using them as words, but the student admits impacts are discussed given he wrestles and plays football. he worries about one item in particular. >> sports are on it too. >> it's a big concern. >> there is a threat to eliminate full day consistent kindergarten. >> taxpayers will learn the new advertised tax rate. >> virginia's first lady filed paperwork to appeal h it has been seven days since she was sentenced to a year and a day. she

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for some reason, they hired this naive girl who did not even know algebra. and there i was, thrown into this magic world that i think of as a miracle. and after the eniac was introduced, herman and adele invited me to go to princeton with them. for a year, i commuted on the pennsylvania railroad from philadelphia to princeton junction. have any of you -- i'm sure many of you have been to princeton. how many? look at all the hands. did you take the train? he took the train from princeton junction into princeton. i did that for a long time. then solomon volcker, who was a mathematician, was going on a sabbatical to hartford. he wanted someone to stay with his wife. i got the privilege of living in their house a few blocks away from the institute, where i had my own bathroom and my own bedroom. and mrs. volcker took me in hand . i was born a redhead. she told me, you look like a renoir painting and you should wear blue and green. so it changed my life, as you can imagine. just going downstairs today, i saw a shot of me in the eniac display. you never know where

i've likened it to trying to teach and algebra course by screaming out the various lessons and students are walking through because most people don't want to hear the message while they are trying to watch a patriots game. most people want to ignore it. the method for communicating to them must communicate in a way that is almost impossible to move people. but the other part that echoes a kind of guilt in how it felt an authentic to the ultimate objective of this movement because it game was an insider's game. you are electing regular candidates to fix the problem with other insiders will stop the problem with that is that we don't believe insiders when they tell us they are going to fix the problem. 80% of americans believe the reforms that have been passed have been designed to help current members of congress to get reelected than to improve the system. we are cynical about the reformers as much as we are cynical about everything else. we have to find a way to stand outside the system that the challenge here is to be authentically outsider in the effort to force change on the inside.

you're going to take algebra in 9th grade even if your not ready for. that is the way we do it. we don't change it. so i think the private schools can continue to do what they do and feature that because parents are demanding something other than what they have been getting in far too many schools. >> if you want to build on that, that's fine. but you have done a lot of this work on the ground level in louisiana. curious, given all of these challenges and questions how do you bring people together? build that coalition were folks have different concerns and can find enough common ground to go ahead and make this happen. >> you know, in the early years of louisiana introducing choice and vouchers and expanding charter schools again, we had to fight with the tradition of public schools. it was very hard and difficult at the time to convince my colleagues in the carcass, the black caucus that it did not matter where it was perceived that this will movement you know the thing i used to tell my colleagues was it doesn't matter. show an i can honestly say today we are getting much muc

then it goes on to algebra 2.s half the course, throwing out half of trigonometry. you're left with a child who does not even have a pathway to calculus or precalculus by 12th grade. >> i would think even if we could come to this perfect curriculum that everyone in this room could agree on, what's left for parents? what if you have a child that's really strong in the sciences, another child that's really strong in the arts. do youu6=j have any say in their curriculum under this core? >> this is the second part of what is driving this movement. parents were upset with this process that neal described. they started peeling back the layers of the onion and they realized that neither they nor their elected legislators had any say in what was being billed as a transformation of education for every child in america. and they're upset about that and they're going to war -- i use that in the figurative sense -- they're going to war against -- against anything that interferes with their right to have a say in what their ch

you're going to take algebra in 9th grade even if your not ready for. that is the way we do it.e don't change it. so i think the private schools can continue to do what they do and feature that because parents are demanding something other than what they have been getting in far too many schools. >> if you want to build on that, that's fine. but you have done a lot of this work on the ground level in louisiana. curious, given all of these challenges and questions how do you bring people together? build that coalition were folks have different concerns and can find enough common ground to go ahead and make this happen. >> you know, in the early years of louisiana

every single student has to pass three tests to graduate, algebra, english literature and a course andbiology. but what we have here is a situation where students at overbrook high school do not have a certified teacher, haven't had a lab in three years, and their textbook is dated 2004, which means that the material, the common core material that they're to be tested on is not in that textbook. >> and the kids certainly feel like they're being short-changed, they just get handouts and they know this is a system that really is an injustice to them. i looked at some of the numbers, they had maybe 4% of the kids at overbrook passing biology. the year before that, 2%. and they need this in order to get a diploma. what can we do? >> well, this is totally unacceptable. and i have put in several pieces of legislation to say that the graduation test should be up to the local school districts. and another one asking -- another piece asking for a moratorium on this testing until such time as every district has adequate resources. you know, this is like a three-legged stool. you want to have sta

i've likened it to trying to teach and algebra course by screaming out the various lessons and students are walking through because most people don't want to hear the message while they are trying to watch a patriots game. most people want to ignore it. the method for communicating to them must communicate in a way that is almost impossible to move people. but the other part that echoes a kind of guilt in how it felt an authentic to the ultimate objective of this movement because it game was an insider's game. you are electing regular candidates to fix the problem with other insiders will stop the problem with that is that we don't believe insiders when they tell us they are going to fix the problem. 80% of americans believe the reforms that have been passed have been designed to help current members of congress to get reelected than to improve the system. we are cynical about the reformers as much as we are cynical about everything else. we have to find a way to stand outside the system that the challenge here is to be authentically outsider in the effort to force change on the inside.

i've likened it to trying to teach an algebra course by screaming out the various lessons and students are walking through because most people don't want to hear the message while they are trying to watch a patriots game. most people want to ignore it. the method for communicating to them must communicate in a way that is almost impossible to move people. but the other part that echoes a kind of guilt in how it felt an authentic to the ultimate objective of this movement because it game was an insider's game. you are electing regular candidates to fix the problem with other insiders. the problem with that is that we don't believe insiders when they tell us they are going to fix the problem. 80% of americans believe the reforms that have been passed have been designed to help current members of congress to get reelected than to improve the system. we are cynical about the reformers as much as we are cynical about everything else. we have to find a way to stand outside the system that the challenge here is to be authentically outsider in the effort to force change on the inside. that sou

i have likened it and trying to teach teach and algebra course by screaming out of the windows on the harvard yard the various aspect of the lesson as the students are walking through because most people don't want to hear the message that is being broadcast to them while they are trying to watch a patriots game. most people want to ignore it, so the method for communicating to them must communicate in a way that is incredibly constrained, almost impossible to move people. but the other part that echoed a kind of guilt of how it felt to the ultimate objective of this movement because the game was an insider's game to fix the problem with other insiders. the problem with that is that we americans don't be leave when we tell them they will fix the problem. they found 80% of americans believe that the reforms that have been passed have been designed more to help the current members of congress get elected and to improve the system. we are cynical about the reformers as much as they are cynical about everything else. that means we have to find a way to stand outside the system to force th

you're going to take algebra in ninth grade, even if you ain't ready for it or even if you should have taken it a couple years before that. because your grond momma took it in ninth grade. that's the way we do it. we don't change it. if you try to change it, there's something wrong with you. no, i think that private schools can continue to do what they do and feature that because parents are demanding something other than what they've been getting for far too many schools. >> so if you want to build on that, that's fine. but also, i'm curious, you know, you have done a lot of the work on the ground level in louisiana. curious, given the challenges and questions, how do you bring people together? how do you build that coalition where folks who maybe have different concerns can find enough common ground to pass choice legislation and make this happen for kids? >> yeah, and that, you know, in early years of us in louisiana introducing choice and vouchers and expanding charter schools. again, we had to fight with the tradition of public schools. it was -- it was very hard and difficult at

. >> so adam, algebra and the law are different.ne side. is there not just a legal answer here? >> well, unfortunately, as we have been discussing, the legal arguments have been used so much in the service of politics that that explains the divide among the attorneys general. it's red states versus blue states. the law is clear here. the law makes clear that because the government is as immigrants know not actually providing legal status. it's huge practical benefits for immigrants who can come out of the shadows, and this is what some folks are afraid of, these actions could be reversed. given that fact, it was just wrong of the district court to say what the president did was confer legal benefit on 4 million immigrants. >> before we take our break, is there one piece of the ruling that makes you more optimist. ic or pessimistic about what's to happen next? >> there's nothing about the ruling that surprised me. your guests talked about this judge being selected by the plaintiffs. i agree with that. to be perfectly honest i'm not s

they don't quite have a feel about how the on/off switches and logical circuits and logic gates and algebra come together to say we can have a mon that can -- a machine that can do these tasks. >> host: in fact you say that math is spiritual. you quote somebody saying math is spiritual. >> guest: that comes from ada lovelace. she is the beginning of "the inmotivators." she is lord byron's daughter the great romantic poet so she has a poetic streak in her but her mother was a mat ma particulars and as you imagine, knowing something about lord byron, his wife was not particularly fond of lord byron by the time ada was growing up. he was too much of a romantic and poet and had ada mainly tutored in mathematics, at if that was some antidote, and what ada does is create poetical science, the combination of poultry with science of art with technology. this is the essence of everybody i have written about. ben franklin does it. albert einstein does it. it's been sort of what has driven progress leonardo da vinci combines the two disciplines in his work. so to me, that notion that there's a connect

whatever don't quite have a feel about how the on/off switches and logical circuits logic gates and algebra all come together to say we can have a machine that can do these tasks. >> host: you say math is spiritual. >> guest: a lovelace the beginning of "the innovators," lord byron's daughter, the great romantic poet, she has a political streak in her but her mother was the mathematician and as you might imagine knowing something about lord byron his wife was not particularly fond of lord byron, was a little too much of a romantic and had heard tutored in mathematics. that was some antidote to being romantic or being a poet and what she does is create what she calls political science. the combination of poetry with science, art, technology. this is the essence of everybody i have written about. ben franklin does it. albert einstein does it. it has been sort of what has driven progress since leonardo da vinci as a great engineer and artist combines the two disciplines in all of his work. to me, that notion that there's a connection between mack and natural beauty is something important for u