but it was brought under control by people like raba, born in algeria, he emigrated to france with his parents when he was 4. he did time in prison for dealing drugs but eventually anged his ways. by 2005 he was a respected lead they are this working class suburb, and the local authorities thought he might be able to help calm things down. they were right. it is for raba a source of pain and he bitterly notes the irony of how the authorities had to turn to him, the kuns convicted drug dealer, when things got hot. >> translator: i do my best to feel french, he says, to convince myself that i am french. but he says, "the treatment i received from all institutions, the discrimination goes against my efforts to feel french." >> in the french complex we refer to french citizens as member of minority groups as being a generation of immigrants. the strongest way to tell them you do not belong. >> reporter: and so in the mostly arab suburbs, there is a strong feeling of alienation. these youths don't admit to taking part in the riots, only that they were there. ask thembout french society, the

it's a big issue for me when i was ambassador in algeria.e how these societies evolve peacefully with of freedom of the press. it is just essential. a couple of things. we have included in the items which have a waiver from sanctions so that we can export them to syria the goods related to the information technology and the internet we think actually the internet can play a very positive role not just in syria but countries around the world and secretary clinton has spoken forcefully about this and we will implement that part of the policy absolutely and syria with respect to other freedom of the press issues. senator, i would hope that we would have occasions to bring syrian journalists to the united states on things like this ever programs. we have done so in the past. in a country where they have no tradition of the freedom of the press and the government does not respected i do not think we will get change overnight from one day to the next. this will be a thing where we will just push it and look for openings here and there and find way

many years later, he told me that there was a coup in algeria at the same time. it was a time when the cia did not officially exist. on my school forms, i could only put that my father was a u.s. government employee. i could not say that he worked for the cia. i think that the a dent in my life that probably -- the event in my life that probably got me to where i am now, was the vietnam war, in coming out of the college and deciding to go into the navy before i was drafted. then, when i got out of the navy, i remember 1968 being a huge year that it was. the assassination of bobby kennedy and martin luther king in the tet offensive, that is what got me interested in news. the only new skill that i had after three years in the navy was the knowledge of military affairs. that is how i began. >> you went to princeton. >> what a mistake -- you went to yale. >> i did a brisk start of graduate school. i had to be honest with myself and tell myself that i was facing the draft. >> what years were you in the navy? >> 1956-1969. >> you were on the destroyer the entire time?

that is a big issue for me when i was ambassador in algeria. do not see how these societies evolve peacefully without freedom of the press. we have included in the items which have a waiver from sanctions so that we can export them to syria, goods that are related to information technology and the internet. we think the internet can play a very positive role, not just in syria but in countries around the world. secretary clinton has spoken forcefully about this. we will implement that part of the policy, absolutely, in syria. with respect to other freedom of the press issues, i would hope that we would have occasion to bring syrian journalists to the united states on things like international visitor programs. we have done so in the past. in a country where they have no tradition of freedom of the press and where the government does not respected, i do not think we will get change overnight from one day to the next. this will be a thing where we push it and look for openings here and there. we will find ways to promote it, whether working with

the french used it in algeria extensively.hey would strap a prisoner down on a bench and use a hospital bed. usually again after beating them. they would lift one end of the bench with the feed in the air and the head would be plunged into a bucket of dirty water or soapy water or, various techniques that they used that this was a favorite technique during the algerian war. a couple of things are clear. one is the sequence isn't necessarily clear to him. this happened a lot or that he says, at least according to the u.s. government. something else i should say is in 2004, or 2005, one of the interrogators, not the person who was applying the waterboarding, but another one came forward and talk about to abc news about how effective this was. he said the amazing thing was abu zubaydah only had to be waterboarded wants and he broke immediately and gave up the information. therefore this is not torture. you just have to do at one time. it took several years before we found out, can gain from it since it ever meant documents met do

when i was in algeria, we opened three of them.ve two in syria right now and i would like to see those reinvigorated. and then we will have our contacts with the business community absolutely, the embassy does now but the possibilities for economic relations are limited because of the strong sanctions regime that we have in place now. >> there is an open invitation as you see, sanctions which may or may not be helpful, if you see openings, obviously you have suggested some thoughts, thoughtful suggestions about the use and the corners idea. keep in touch because it may be that some back and forth is going to be required to get your message out. finally, i think all of us in the senate and the administration were staggered by news to have nuclear program and this became, first of all, through intelligence sources that were closely guarded and now became a much more general picture but

top of his head about eight of the french generals of the 1950's who had fought in both vietnam and algeria appears he was quite conscious of the background, especially the french background and the counterinsurgency. i want to talk about and highlight two areas. the first is what petraeus did you know what say this in the context of my belief that the surge failed in the sense that it did not achieve a strategic call. it improves security. there a lot of iraqis live today because of the surge. there was a real achievement. i think the surge failed because the purpose of the surge was to improve security to create a breeding space which included a breakthrough would occur. that is still not occurred. it may occur this year, it may not. but all the basic questions that led to the violence to life before the surge are just hanging fire up their. the oil revenue was the relationship between major groups was the disposition of the city appeared kook. all of those have led to balance in the past, all complete to violence again. the only thing changing in the security equation that i see is that

of his head about eight of the french generals of the 1950's who had fought in both the and on and algeria so he really was quite conscious of the back of especially the french background in vietnam and counter insurgency. i want to talk about to highlight two areas. the first is what petraeus did and i want to say this in the context of my believe the search field in the sense that it did not achieve a strategic goal. the surge achieved its tactical, improved security. there's a lot of iraqis alive today because of the surge. it was a real achievement. i think they failed though because the purpose of a stated purpose of the surge was it to improve security, create a breathing space which a political breakthrough what occurred. that has still not occurred. it may occur this year and it may not all of the basic questions that lead to violence in iraq between the surge are still hanging fire out there. how do you share will revenue, what is the difference between major groups, what is the disposition of the city of kirkuk, will iraq a strong central government or be a loose confederation? w

the cost of using it in the long term far outweigh -- in algeria, groundbreaking stuff where they stoppederrorist attacks but lost the support of the population. we are differing over the term works. somebody in the world will talk if you hand them a stick of gum. if uss probability look up the short and long term effects. >> that was great. [applause] >> is your book here? how to bring the terrorist out. >> i didn't bring books to sell but you can get them at amazon.com and barnes and noble. >> we have the magazines here for the synopsis as an article. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> an update on the $787 billion economic stimulus program passed into law more than a year ago. $350 billion have been committed to various projects. just $195 billion have been paid out. we have a web site devoted to following stimulus money. go to www. c-span.org for stimulus. you will find news conferences and hearings and congressional debates as well as government and watchdog groups tracking the spending. treasury secretary timothy geithner testified on ca

in 1998, i came back from algeria where 175,000 people were killed. the bombing took place in nairobi, kenya and people from my district. died district . . >> the first person killed, i went to his funeral at arlington cemetery. i am just trying to find out, the pilot of the airplane that went into the pentagon was from my district. we're trying to work in a bipartisan way to do what is best for the country. to make a difference, to make the country safe. i have not had any answers. i can't get an answer out of your department. you said the reference is this letter, this letter, this is the answer. there is no answer. let me move on. >> in regard to the responses we have set up, there are more letters that you have sent to us than responses we have sent back. the responses deal with all of the things that are contained in the letters. >> with respect, i don't think that is accurate. i will put my letters in the record at this point in history can judge whether that is accurate. congress passing, my bill was senator kennedy -- the urgent need to addres

a company that has 40 people on site in algeria has 400 here, monitoring.lications. it would be easiest for me to talk about my specific situation. we are headquartered in milwaukee. we are 62 years old. each of our three ceos has been born in milwaukee. a 90% of our business is outside the u.s.. in six to seven years from now, it will be 96% to 97% of our business. the chinese business is growing fast. none of this is outsourcing. we're putting thousands of people into jobs in china, the middle east, abu dhabi. in the process of growing our business from a $10 billion business to a $22 business, which built a building in downtown milwaukee that employs 1200 people. the mayor of the city was in favor. we have reenergize a part of downtown. we could not have done that without our expansion overseas. our two largest competitors are foreign companies. their tax rates are anywhere between 8% and 15% lower than ours, which puts us at a disadvantage annually of hundred $2,120 million annually -- a disadvantage a newly of $120 million against our competitors. >> t

from the french perspective, that's what algeria was. maybe not from the algerian perspective.e same thing with northern ireland, maybe not from the irish catholic perspective, but from britain's perspective, it was home turf. the irish protestant leadership are similar to the problems we have as we deal with a host nation government. there are a lot of lessons to be learned overall, but there is a kind of -- fm-3-34 represents some naivete. there is this idea that our interests line up with the interests of the host government. because there is that assumption, we haven't thought what happens when those interests don't align? this is something that a written he is a was written -- essay was written about. i think as we look at any third-party intervention. you know, how exactly you use leverage over the host nation government is a problem that i don't think we've fought really hard about and we are suffering for in afghanistan certainly and iraq to a lesser degree. culturally, as i spent time in afghanistan over the past summer, i think because of lessons that i learned in ira

we heard a lot about insurgencies in vietnam and algeria but something i hadn't heard about was aboutld it be in looking back in history and skipping over colombia a conflict was largely shaped by our restrictions to prevent another vietnam from occurring we could be missing the boat especially in light of the fact that we're dealing with a rural insurgency there, a vast geography and rough terrain and a booming narcotics trade? >> yeah, i'll tackle that initially. i just want to -- there was one point where i actually had some dealings with our policy for colombia and so i paid a fair amount of attention to it. i think a couple of things that would make it difficult to take any lessons from colombia and translate immediately over to afghanistan are some of the circumstances that exist in a positive way in colombia that are challenges for us today in afghanistan. and i'll just rattle off several of them. you had a relatively mature government and government structures and government institutions. even under the pastrana government in colombia. there was a history of -- a certain degre