the question is would ali have been ali without smoking joe? it's "way too early" for this. >>> good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early," the show that touches your heart inappropriately each and every morning. i'm glad you're up with us this morning watching on msnbc or listening live on sirius xm radio. shoot me an e-mail or tweet me and let me know what you're doing up at this ungodly hour. or do what you're we'll read the best responses later in the show. it's tuesday, november 8th, one year until the 2012 president election. there's a lot going on today including nbc polls ha that show how president obama is stacking up in head-to-head match-ups with this motley crew of republican candidates. plus monday night football and a game the dream team eagles simply had to have, could not lose. highlights of a tight game between philly and chicago. that's later in sports. >>> first let's get to the news live at 5:30 a.m. facing new charges of sexual harassment, republican presidential contender herman cain is vowing to set the lo

bitter for many years about the way ali treated him, traysier had only recently forgiven ali for hisrutal taunts over the years. in the end smokin' joe finished his professional boxing career with 32 wins, four losses and one draw. after retirement frazier battled financial problems eventually opening a jim in philadelphia. smokin' joe will always be remembered as one of the greats, a true bruiser. >> as lester said ali was relentless in his taunting of frazier calling him an uncle tom. in april 2009, joe frazier joined us on "morning joe" and talked about his relationship with ali. >> our relationship should have been like two lovers. number one, we fought together and we touched each other and he hugged me all night in one fight back in the '70s. >> like two lovers, joe frazier passing away yesterday at 67. >>> we turn to football now, the monday night game between the bears and eagles. philadelphia trying to win its third straight game after starting the season 1-4. second quarter, jay cutler dunks it outside to matt forte. he's stripped. brian role picks it up and runs 22 yards.

ali 2, frazier 1.getting the better of the guy ali once brutally called a chump. a sting that never subsided over the many years that joe frazier and i talked. >> it got nasty. >> yeah. >> how do you get along today? >> the way i look at it, you know, i mean, some things got, you know, you let slide. duck it. you know what i mean? get away from it. because you know the truth. i know the truth. and the people see what is really going on in a better world. i'm just hoping that he will be able to live long and happy and change his ways. i think he has. lord, bless him. the main thing about it, he is doing fine. let's go on with it. >> neil: he said that neither of you would have been as great as you were without the other. he said by far you were the toughest opponent. tip of the hat by muhammad ali. >> i put something on these guys' minds. >> neil: for frazier, past was past. he wish parkinson played muhammad ali well. rivalries die hard. ans noties harder. frazier would train his daughter jackie to chal

i'm ali velshi. 11:00 a.m. takes part in the wreath-laying ceremony at arlington national cemetery. also today, family and friends remember boxing legend joe frazier who passed away earlier this week. his body will lay in state at the wells fargo center in philadelphia today and tomorrow. >>> las vegas is betting that today, 11-11-11 will be a lucky day. it's predicted 4,000 couples will be using this once in a lifetime opportunity to tie the knot. >>> the death toll in eastern turkey after wednesday's earthquake stands at 19 now. it's the second quake in the area in less than a month. as ivan watson reports, rescuers are working desperately to free dozens of people from the rubble. >> reporter: a dramatic escape, seconds before an entire building collapses. the earth just won't stop shaking in eastern turkey. security camera footage shows wednesday night's 5.6 magnitude earthquake knocking out electricity in the eastern city of vonn and sending three men racing into the street just seconds before the byrum hot

in a statement, ali said "this is what muhammad ali said about the loss of joe frazier.world lost a great champion. i will always remember him with respect and admiration. my sympathy goes out to his family and loved ones. requesting "coach joe paterno will likely face a ba rarrage o questions today. former assistant coach, sandusky is accused of sexually abusing eight boys between 1994 rand 2009. more victims could come forward. sandusky, free on bond, maintains innocence. two other officials have stepped down. >>> dr. conrad murray's attorneys are vowing to appeal his manslaughter conviction in the death of michael jackson. murray showed no emotion as the verdict was read after two days of deliberations. the judge denied him bail, calling him a flight risk. jackson's family spoke briefly to reporters as they left the courthouse. murray faces up to four years in prison. his sentencing is set for november 29th. his medical license will be automatically suspended. >>> in greece, a new prime minister is expected to be named this hour to replace george papandreou. he steppe

ali learned how to keep the weight off. right now she is sharing all to help you in your journey to living big. honestly this truly is like living big. all of these dreams. living big means living life to the fullest. and that includes having fun. everybody loves a great party and there's tons of reasons to celebrate. i don't want you missing out on life. so rsvp yes. i'm going to share with you some of my secrets to partying without derailing your diet. first of all it's important to have a plan. so you don't over indulge. in fact, a successful party starts before you even walk out the door. ali already makes working out a priority. five days a week she works up a sweat. but when she's at a special event on her calendar she ups the ante day of. i'll put in an extra workout so i can maybe have a little bit more fun. and be a little bit more flexible with my calories while i'm out with my friends. i do take into count what have i've done for that day. did i get in my morning workout, did i put in extra time because i knew it

and once she owned it ali shed 112 pounds. ali you did it.ink it would be really important for you, for your journey to just admit it. i mean honestly like admit it to your friends. and it's not like nobody's going to judge you. you're the only person judging you. i was the only person judging me. you don't have a weight issue i think that you would be more into your vanity weight. which is totally fine and that's like what, that's what most women deal with. i'm a latina there's a- everything i do is tied to food.

did ali apologize to you? >> yes. >> reporter: he did?ot to me but through the television. >> reporter: but he never picked up the phone and said "hey, joe, i'm sorry." >> no, i've done that game. but it's all forgiveness now. >> reporter: what most don't know is that when ali was out of boxing it was frazier who lent him money, lobbied for his reinstatement, even drove ali to a hearing. but the bitterness lingered, by many accounts frazier took that grudge to his brave. in all the money from all those big fights drained by bad investments and bad associations. joseph william frazier made his living and his legacy with that big heart in those punishing hands. he made no apologies for any of it. byron pitts, cbs news, philadelphia. >> pelley: mohammed ali said today "the world has lost a great champion. i will always remember joe with respect and admiration." a panel of very bright and very successful americans have some thoughts about getting the country back on track when we come back. job as a diabetes educator is teaching my patients h

ali.tomorrow is election day and in the bay area the rates getting the most attention is the race for mayor. we are live at city hall and tell you why it hey be daying before we know the winner. >> reporter: that depends on how close the race is. with enough candidates to fill up one full side of a ballot and wait there is more, with eight write in candidates there is a chance we may not know who the next mayor is after the first vote count. there are 16 names on a crowded ballot for satisfy mayor. harold miller suspect one of them. he is one of eight write ins. >> i don't care about my chances, it's just i know i have a chance. >> reporter: the ranked choice voting giving hip optimism and others worry. >> this is the first where -- its been a lot of people expressing doubt about the voting method. >> reporter: the director of elections saddle have preliminary results the day after the election but if it's close it could be a week before the results are tallied. that's why the candidates l

ali called that fight the closest he ever came to death. in all, the two men traded punches for a total 41 rounds during their careers. >> everybody love it. love what went on in the three fights we had. >> reporter: outside the ring, ali taunted frazier mercilessly but following his death, ali released a statement saying the world has lost a great champion, i will always remember joe with respect and admiration. in later years, frazier had money troubles and ran a gym in his adopted hometown of philadelphia. last september, the former heavyweight champion returned to his home state of south carolina where he was honored with a lifetime achievement and service award. frazier was diagnosed with liver cancer only weeks ago. he died in philadelphia at the age of 67. susan mcginnis, cbs news. ÑÑÑ [ male announcer ] does your cable company keep charging you more... and more... and more? stop paying so much for second best. upgrade to verizon fios and get tv, internet and phone for our best price online: just $89.99 a month guaranteed for two yea

frazier withstood ali's onslaught and built momentum. grinding ali down. and frazier in the floral green trunks knocked down ali for the third time in his career. the decision was unanimous, joe frazier was still the heavyweight champion. in january, 1973, he ran into a human buzz saw named george foreman. in two rounds, frazier was knocked down six times and the title passed to foreman. but then, in 1975, frazier was given one last chance to reclaim the title. a third fight against al if, who had stunned foreman the year before. the protagonists were both past their peaks, they put on a devastating show. after the 13th round, his trainer refused to let him continue. frazier had lost but in losing had honored himself. when out was over, ali said "i'm any just happy right now there ain't no more joe fraziers to fight. " >> what a career. what a legend. the two. unbelievable here. so big in one of their fights. frank sinatra was in the crowd taking pictures. they each earned $2.5 million for the fights. unheard of money back then. they were huge, larger than

ali. >> tomorrow is election day and in the bay area the rates getting the most attention is the race for mayor. we are live at city hall and tell you why it hey be daying before we know the winner. >> reporter: that depends on how close the race is. with enough candidates to fill up one full side of a ballot and wait there is more, with eight write in candidates there is a chance we may not know who the next mayor is after the first vote count. there are 16 names on a crowded ballot for satisfy mayor. harold miller suspect one of them. he is one of eight write ins. >> i don't care about my chances, it's just i know i have a chance. >> reporter: the ranked choice voting giving hip optimism and others worry. >> this is the first where -- its been a lot of people expressing doubt about the voting method. >> reporter: the director of elections saddle have preliminary results the day after the election but if it's close it could be a week before the results are tallied. that's why the candidat

ali and frazier. deserved accolades for muhammad ali i've always believed that at his best joe frazier who died monday at the age of 67 was the better fighter and the better man. >> wow. >> if you've ever seen that documentary, and of course nobody went around praising joe frazier after his career was over. just went to the sidelines. but those documentaries are so sad when joe frazier would try to hand ali money when he couldn't get a fight and help him out. ali would take the money and then the doors would open up and ali would start screaming and yelling at him, calling him uncle tom there. >> yes. >> frazier was just a good, decent man from south carolina. he didn't understand it. >> and gave up his body in every fight and it showed later in life. he struggled with his health, died quickly actually of liver cancer. we only heard about it a month or so ago and he died yesterday. so a great fighter and an icon. >> i sound like i'm from the 1930s, but i remember sitting upstairs with my dad and broth

he handed mohammad ali his first defeat.s that he will always remember his rival with admiration and respect. joe frazier has been under home hospice care since he was diagnosed weeks ago. he was 67 years old. >>> dr. conrad murray convicted for the death of singer michael jackson. the jury deliberated more than nine hours before delivering the guilty verdict. >> the position will wait in jail to learn his sentence. -- former doctor of michael jackson and will wait in jail. >> he sat stoically in the courtroom. outside the courthouse, michael jackson fans cheered. is family believes there has been some justice served but they know none of this will bring him back. >> thank you america, thank all the fans and prosecutors. >> gratitude from the jackson family living will los angeles courthouse. more than two years after his death, michael jackson's family and fans got the news they were waiting for. >> guilty. >> he was found criminally responsible for the international pop star's death. >> thank you so much. i'm happy it's ov

he defeated ali in the first one and lost the next two.li mocked frazier mercilessly, calling him a gorilla and an uncle tom and over the years never apologized to frazier in person. ali released a statement saying, quote, i also always remember joe with respect and admiration. my sympathy goes out to his family and loved ones. frazier said he had forgiven ali and was doing well. >> i'm living good. i'm doing things to help others and negative to help put a smile on my face. >> he died monday night after a brief battle with liver cancer. he was 67 years old. ries, which is why we're declaring it the unofficial official fruit of the holidays. the fig's going to be so bummed. [ chuckles ] for holiday tips and recipes, go to oceanspray.com. the only thing better than our tasty, good-for-you products is when they're on special. here's this week's grower's special. find ocean spray on sale at your local store. and for thanksgiving recipes, visit oceanspray.com. [ female announcer ] improve the health of your skin with aveeno daily moisturizing

>> commander ali, two questions. i know we put out the word to the department as loudly as we could looking, i guess, to the stations that we wanted to first have our pilots to see what the interest would be and i was wondering, and i'm glad to hear we have six lieutenants and 25 officers going through the first set of training. was that the group of people who stepped forward and expressed interest, was it a larger group? can you talk a little bit about how the recruitment went and it is going for officers to be involved in the c.i.t. group? >> sure. absolutely. actually, it involved the expansion command the three stations initially identified to six stations. and i mean, with the challenges in staffing that we're currently faced with, a number of issues, were there to be protests or testing processes, we could not just focus in on three stations because we basically would remove the available personnel for normal staffing and normal patrol conditions as well as unanticipated events so with that said we went beyond

frazier was the first man to beat muhammad ali. he would go on to lose two more fights to ali, including the epic thrilla in manilla. >>> for boxing fans, the name joe frazier and muhammad allyli will forever be remembered. tonight derek is hoping smoking joe has found a measure of peace. >>. >> anita, when i heard the sad, sad news, it took me back it a conversation i had with smoking joe back in the 1990s when i managed to corner him in the green room at my old radio job. i'm a huge fan, but have i to ask you about the confrontation with a muhammad ali not in the bring but in the abc studios. howard kosel was interviewing both men. i'm tired of you calling me ignorant, he says. ali jumps to his feet, grab him and they wres around on the floor for a -- wrestle around on the floor for a few minutes. was that real or some kind of prefight height. oh, no. he was deadly serious. in fact, he even talked of god having shut ali's mouth. well now it's well known. frazier long carried a grudge for the taunts. but in recent years i heard he

he beat ali once but resented living in his shadow. he spent his later years training boxers at a gym in philadelphia. kevin f. turning to the growing controversy involving republican presidential candidate herman cain. today he is expected to respond to allegations from a fourth woman accusing him of sexual harassment. to claim the incident happened while she was staying at the capital hilton. brianne carter has the details. >> for the past week, herman cain has said he will not talk about this. he wanted to "stay on message," as he crashed his campaign for. now he says later today he will finally speaking out. presidential hopeful herman cain says he will finally address the accusations against him. speaking out on the jimmy kimmel show he says he is planning a conference today. >> there is not an ounce of truth in all of these accusations. >> his announcement comes hours after our fourth woman said he harassed her. sharon bialek is the first woman to make her claim in front of cameras. she says it happened 14 years ago when she went

ali said years later that joe frazier was the toughest opponent he faced. smoking retired in 1976 only to make a short-lived comeback in the early 1980's before retiring for good. joe frazier left boxing with 32 victories, four defeats, and one draw. in his latter years, fraziers owned at him in philadelphia where he taught a new generation of boxers eager to learn from one of the all-time greats. >> mohammad ali issued a statement, saying the world has lost a great champion. >>> some local elections are being held today in maryland and northern virginia. they will have to the polls in arlington, fairfax, and prince william and virginia. in maryland in college park, a disparate, rockville and bowie. for information on polling locations, log onto our website wjla.com. >>> herman cain will hold a news conference to respond to sexual- harassment allegations. sharon bialek said she met with herman cain after being fired with the national restaurant association in 1997. she wanted his help in finding a new job. she said he made a sexual advance to her after dinn

frazier landed a left hook, ali down. a knockout.n watching a replay of that fight with howard cosell, they tangled in the abc studio. >> joe frazier is leaving the studio now, deeply upset. >> reporter: then, in 1975, the thrilla in manila. >> ali, trying to agitate frazier. >> reporter: ali, already agile, sped up even more. he pummeled frazier's left eye. frazier fought back like a lion. but frazier was so damaged, his team flew in the towel. as the years went by, the two aging warriors, one now very sick, reached out in friendship and in memory of the days when both were champions, both were kings. joe frazier died of liver cancer at the age of 67. >>> and when we return, the tragic stage collapse, the country music superstars who talk about that day for the first time and how it changed them. [ mall stuffed up? simple relief is here. introducing robitussin® nasal relief pills. the right relief for nasal congestion...in a pill. ♪ new from robitussin®. relief made simple. how about the beat of a healthy heart? campbell's healthy r

ali and his friends hunker down at the edge of the square. they are afraid they will not have a place in egypt that is taking place. >> the islamists will win the elections. but then the people will quickly realize that they were the wrong choice because the religious leaders cannot solve the problems either. >> ali and his friends want to get things moving again. some of the friends are back out in tahrir square and have erected tents. police raid the tents and clear them up. but the anger of the protesters is far from over. they threw stones. the police responded with tear gas. the situation escalates. ali's girlfriend is caught up in the altercation. degas irritates her lungs. many of her friends are injured. many across egypt are discussed with military brutality. -- disgusted with military brutality. elsewhere and in egypt, there are protests, too. >> how can we talk about democracy in this country when people are beaten and killed by the security forces? >> battles that been raging since last saturday. on tuesday, ali was brought to hos

ali? >> it's very hard. in the light of this, want to be the most responsible, will not be rewarded for that at all. it's unfair, it's terrible, but it is the way it is. doug flynn, you have people that come to you with these questions. they're just, i don't have the appetite for more risk. what do you tell them? >> that's a good point. in the book we have a detail risk profile. i think that's something that deserves to be looked at. i think you might have more appetite than you think with goals 20, 30iers, goals a year or two away, you shouldn't have anything to do with the stock market, but people contend to put everything in one big bucket. if you separate into your goals, you can start thinking like hey, long-terms goals i can be more aggressive with, but short-term things, savings and money i need tomorrow should have nothing to do with that. you have to start thinking about it that way. that's the beginning of developing a portfolio, and getting comfortable. two 3w5d things can happen to people. they t

and there's ali's old pants. >> i know. i don't want them anymore. >> ali vincent.. >> i went from a size 22 to a 4. i never knew a 4 existed. it's been so much fun. >> yeah. it's great. that's one of your whole philosophies, make it fun, stick with it. >> i dieted for years. my mom and i went on the heavy, lose weight, heavy, lose weight, rollercoaster. i can't even tell you how many diets i went on. they were all something i did. when i was done dieting, i went back to my old habits. i said, i'm tired of this. i want to do something different. i knew that i had to do it so it could last forever. the small changes are what helped me. >> you started out way back when as a competitive swimmer, nationally ranked. >> i know. >> what happened? how does the weight creep on? >> i think that was kind of the key, too. i knew better, i should have done better. it was the way i beat myself up, as well. it was to the time where i never had to do the deal with girls in high school. i already had them. it was who i was and what i did. i never considered to exercise. hen i quit m

he lost twice to ali. until late in his life, he always resented being ali's foil. he was diagnosed with liver cancer a few weeks, actually. frazier died last night. he was 67 years old. >>> now, some "monday night football" highlights. we get those from espn news. >> good morning. my name is todd grisham. this is your espn news update. let's show you some "monday night football." are you ready? eagles, hosting the bears. second quarter, bears up 10-3. jay cutler hits matt forte, who was great all game, except for this one, glaring mistake. he is stripped by brian roll, who returns the fumble for a touchdown. we're tied at 10-10. later in the quarter, lashaun jackson, returning a punt. and this is dangerous. usually returns it for a touchdown. but he fumbles inside the 10. the bears add a touchdown. 17-10, chicago at the half. look at this again. cory graham from out of bounds to inbounds. he was bound to make a great play and he did. we move ahead to the second half. third quarter. game tied at 17-17. lashaun mccoy, a year he's having. he's got a score. eagles up 2

did ali apologize to you? >> yes. >> he did. >> not me, but to the television. >> he never picked up the phone and said, hey, joe, i'm sorry. >> i've done that to him. >> what makes you forgive him? how are you able? just age, time passes by? >> no. it's just like, you know, you have to forgive people. >> smoking joe frazier was 67 years old. >>> and in a statement mohammuh ali said, "the world lost a great champion. i will always remember joe with respect and admiration." >> sad loss. >> it is, indeed. >>> we'll be right back. t is, indeed. "the early show" on cbs. my whole body hurt. it was an ongoing, deep pain. i didn't understand it. i found out that connected to our muscles are nerves that send messages through the body. my doctor diagnosed it as fibromyalgia -- thought to be the result of overactive nerves that cause chronic, widespread pain. lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. i learned lyrica can provide significant relief from fibromyalgia pain. and less pain means, i can feel better and do more

he could have been a little quirk to forgive ali, ali didn't help matters.oxing's the hurt matters. he did a lot of good in philadelphia, but was never able to parlay that into a national profile as other fighters have. the news of the past few days is tragic. >> smoking joe, smoking joe frazier. that's all -- he kept saying that, you know, when we were -- when we interviewed him. again, we hope he gets better. what do you see, though? what do you see as his legacy? he is not gone, but i talked to him about his legacy, and he thinks it's his camp in philadelphia, his boxing camp, kids who are underprivileged, who might be on the streets. do you see that as part of his legacy? >> yeah, he did a lot of good work after his fight. i think, ultimately, his legacy is going to be the guy who was the closest thing muhammad ali had to a rival, the first guy to beat ali. three classic, classic fights all over the globe. i think his legacy first and foremost is going to be as a figh

i'm not sure. >> you put on a lot of muhammed ali fights.n the thrilla in manila in the pill fihilippines. >> that's how i was introduced to that great country. >> where does manny rank in the 46 years you've been in the fight game. >> there was a period of time where ali was absolutely super, when he became champion and before the draft. and those two-year period if never seen anything like it. but that aside, manny pacquiao is the best fighter i've ever seen in my career, by far the best fighter. >> how much money could you make from promoting the pacquiao/mayweather fight if it ever happened. >> if i could make that fight happen, then the government, u.s. government might send me over to bring about peace in the mideast, because i've got a guy in mayweather who won't fight manny pacquiao because no matter what the money is, he knows he will get knocked out. he has two ways to go in the fight. he can fight manny the way a couple of the opponents have fought him, get hit, quit and go into a shell or fight him like kodo and margarido did kee