michelle goldberg is a columnist in the "new york times," ali velshi co-host of "velshi and ruhle," adam davidsonnew yorker. cohn was this sort of ultraestablishment person who had the politics of wall street very much so. he was in there to kind of do the wall street stuff and now he's gone and there's a question of what is the vacuum going to be filled with. >> it is hard to convey how extremely outside of any economic mainstream someone like peter na rare row and some of the other people around trump are. there is no conversation happening. these are not people who. from agriculture or from manufacturing as opposed to ball street. >> or people who are critics of the kind of current global world trade order from within the profession engaged in those debates. peter navarro, literally with his help i tried to find one other economist who agrees with him on any of his trade theories. i couldn't finds a single one if you can even articulate what his theories are. it's very trouble smooth criticism of the world trade order is real. for decades, economists said if you have unfettered trade, it will