the attacks were carefully planned. >> my name is ali mohamed. >> reporter: this man, ali mohamed, washe married a californian in 1985 and became an american citizen. he joined the u.s. army. >> at the same time that he was a u.s. army sergeant and actually working at special forces headquarters in fort bragg, north carolina he was also intimately involved with al qaeda, training bin laden's bodyguards. >> ali mohammed had done what they call casing of the american embassy in nairobi in december of 1993. a five-year span between casing and operation. >> reporter: and listen to what ali mohammed said in a u.s. court. >> my surveillance files and photographs were reviewed by osama bin laden. bin laden looked at the picture of the american embassy and pointed to where a truck could go as a suicide bomber. >> reporter: shortly after the terrorist attacks on the two u.s. embassies this man, abdul raheem al nashiri, approached bin laden with a new scheme. two years of planning followed. on october 7th, 2000, in the yemeni port of aden, two al qaeda suicide bombers steered their small boat up

couple of countercultural icons of the 1960s and 1970s, and perhaps even still today, bob dylan and mohamed ali. there's an interesting comment i ran across, it's a popular music. the broader social significance. the popular song has become a most revealing index to american life in general. it sums up the ethics and slang and intimate character of every generation and will tell as much to future students as any histories, biographies or newspapers at the time, and that's from sigmund spaeth and his book, "the facts of life in popular song." and here you see the connection between the movement and popular culture, popular entertainment symbolized by the partnership of harry belafonte who, until elvis came on the scene in the 1950s, was the most popular male vocalist in the united states. harry belafonte and dr. king. another thing to keep in mind when we take a look at the music of the movement, african-american music had a global popularity. many jazz musicians had toured in europe going back to the 1920s and 1930s, including louis armstrong, and it's -- it's -- the civil rights movement is re

the thinking is that even though ali mohamed al-megrahi was cricketed of carrying -- convicted of carryingelieve he acted alone. and there are the pictures from august 2009, his lawyers accusing a judge he had weeks to live. he is still very much alive three years later. and now in this post-gadhafi world in libya, western officials hope to be able to get the new government to cooperate so scotland's top prosecutor, part of those meetings last week in tripoli, releasing a statement saying the libyan authorities are committed, he says, to cleaning up the mess left behind by the gadhafi regime. so maybe some justice to family members who have been dealing with their grief and anger for 24 years. back to you. jon: i've met some of those families, and it would be a very good thing if they could see some measure of justice. >> reporter: absolutely. jon: thanks, rick. harris: we're going to turn now to grabbing your mint juleps and a big, floppy hat because it's almost time for the kentucky derby. one of the world's most-watched horse races, it is the 138th run for the roses at churchill downs i

boxing when mohammed ali put his hands up and let george foreman punch and punch and punch he got exhausted and finally ali knocked him out. take the absorb it and hope they collapse and go away and you will win. that's exactly what's happening. i don't know what's wrong with me. i don't know what's wrong with me when i see the cbs evening news spending 19 section on it and nbc and abc, what is wrong with them? this is a big story? >> there are certain stories, bill, that are not on their radar screen. that's one thing. and. >> bill: 6 a million american catholics? >> i know. i know. i know. certain stories that aren't on their radar screen. and they give their critics ammunition, the people who think that they're out there to protect the president. whether they think they are or not, they give their critics ammunition. >> bill: absolutely, no doubt about it? >> they don't understand how serious this is to their credibility. they don't understand. >> bill: bernie, thank you. plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. economy so bad, is las vegas still a boom town? we sent den

hides the other parts of what i'm all about. [ applause ] >> sammy davis, jr., jesse jackson, mohammed ali to come to the club how did t that start? >> i was a night person and most of my friends were entertainers. and i came from chicago. i helped in the launch of the rain coalition. >> an interesting story about how they would face discrimination sometimes at your clubs, and what you did to react to that. >> well the first playboy club in -- was open february 1960 in chicago, and we owned that. the next two clubs were franchises, and they were from the south. new orleans was the second club but the first franchise club and miami. and they didn't let our black key holders in and i said you can't do that. these are members of a private club. it's against the state laws and i saidhis is ridiculous so we live in a democracy here and these are members of our clubs, and you have to let them in. so we repurchased at a loss both in new orleans and miami, so we could open up to all of the members. >> that's -- you know you get the reputation you know, of being obviously on the right side of that

boxing when mohammed ali put his hands up and let george foreman punch and punch and punch he got exhaustedli knocked him out. take the absorb it and hope they collapse and go away and you will win. that's exactly what's happening. i don't know what's wrong with me. i don't know what's wrong with me when i see the cbs evening news spending 19 section on it and nbc and abc, what is wrong with them? this is a big story? >> there are certain stories, bill, that are not on their radar screen. that's one thing. and. >> bill: 6 a million american catholics? >> i know. i know. i know. certain stories that aren't on their radar screen. and they give their critics ammunition, the people who think that they're out there to protect the president. whether they think they are or not, they give their critics ammunition. >> bill: absolutely, no doubt about it? >> they don't understand how serious this is to their credibility. they don't understand. >> bill: bernie, thank you. plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. economy so bad, is las vegas still a boom town? we sent dennis -- jesse w

people have posed that question regarding mohamed ali and his health issues over these many years. is it fair to instantly go to not a conclusion but the question of concussions and the beating these men take on the field. playing a game, a sport, they do love and are compensated well to play in some cases. >> given the studies shows the baseball player lids to be 79 and the typical football player lives to be 57. this is not just about junior seau who died at the age of 43. this is about whether or not parents should be comfortable having their 5-year-old kids playing in tackle football leagues. there are 5-year-old tackle football leagues in the united states. and it is about us being actually educated to the risks. i think the reason why boxing is not the massive sport that it was in ali and frazier's time is because you have a generation of parents who are educated just by seeing the real life effects of the sport, that they keep their children away from the boxing gym. if you had generations of parents keeping their children away from football, my concern is that this is a con

>> well, i think i mean -- i never really got to see him play but i loved mohammed ali. always watched film of him and how good his feet were, i thought he was really cool. with the olympics coming up my dad always had us watch olympic stories and we were way too young. in particular he had us watch i think it was the '84 olympics but he had recorded it and i guess he saved it. we used to watch carl lewis, jackie joyner-kersee and greg louganis and how he was able to do what he did in the diving arena, and that's like a story i'll never forget. so that was so inspiring for me as an athlete to look up and to be inspired by that. >> let's take a short break. i want to come back and talk to you about love. >> 40-love? >> not 40-love. this love. this kind of love, serena. >> okay. >> brace yourself. but with advair, i'm breathing better so now i can take the lead on a science adventure. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator, working toge

>> well, i think i mean -- i never really got to see him play but i loved mohammed ali.s watched film of him and how good his feet were, i thought he was really cool. with the olympics coming up my dad always had us watch olympic stories and we were way too young. in particular he had us watch i think it was the '84 olympics but he had recorded it and i guess he saved it. we used to watch carl lewis, jackie joyner-kersee and greg louganis and how he was able to do what he did in the diving arena, and that's like a story i'll never forget. so that was so inspiring for me as an athlete to look up and to be inspired by that. >> let's take a short break. i want to come back and talk to you about love. >> 40-love? >> not 40-love. this love. this kind of love, serena. >> okay. >> brace yourself. coffee doesn't have vitamins... unless you want it to. splenda® essentials™ no calorie sweetener with b vitamins, the first and only one to help support a healthy metabolism. three smart ways to sweeten. same great taste. splenda® essentials™. (female announcer) most life insurance com

prosecutors say ali, a nephew of khalid sheikh mohammed, wired $127,000 to the hijackers as they went to flight schools and lived incognito in the u.s. mustafa al-hawsawi, the other financier, based in dubai, allegedly bought clothes and plane tickets for the hijackers, who wired him $18,000 in unspent funds right before 9/11 for al qaeda's future use. and there was no shortage of plots to spend on. after 9/11, khalid sheikh mohammed went on to plot the bombings in bali, indonesia, the shoe-bomb plot against the u.s., as well as a plan to crash a plane into the tallest building in los angeles. maurice? >> dubois: john miller, thank you. president obama launched his reelection bid today, the day after the release of a disappointing jobs report. our chief white house correspondent norah o'donnell is with the president's campaign. norah, good evening to you. >> reporter: and good evening to you, maurice. and mindful that the economy is still the top issue for voters, the president kicked off his campaign in two battleground states, ohio and virginia, where the unemployment rate is actual

. >> will smith played mohammed ali in that movie. >> with you then he went. >> will smith will knock>> i would not try to punch -- punk that guy. >> men in black put the thing up to your eyes. >> sports now, the staples center is the place to be four playoff games if the essentially the three days between the kings, clippers and lakers. lakers getting it right friday night. fourth quarter game three. l.a. down 3. kobe bryant boy, does he have it right now. 36 points high off the glass. he was 18 of 18 from the free throw line. that set the lakers record. kevin durant right there missing a three that would have tied the game. lakers back on the board. 2-1 in that series. l.a. overall was 41 of 42 from the line, yes, a little shuffle there. >> what happened there? >> tried to kiss him. >> world peace as always in the middle of that else where, the celtics and hawks, kevin garnett struggled a bit. didn't did have a big shot early as the celtics open up a 14-zip lead. 18 to 3 lead. up 15 at the half. but the hawks, i mean, excuse me the sixers, thinking of the hawks in the laround. sixer

ali soufan i know was here. he was one of the people that said we have no idea that khalid sheikh mohammed was part of al qaeda until march or april of 2002 when they caught abu sebaga in pakistan and almost by chance, literally by chance identified him as the guy they were looking for. so we tried to go back and tell this as a story. i, like peter, and others in the audience have read so many books on terrorism, having covered it that the one thing we didn't want to do was foist on the public another tome of, i don't want to discredit or criticize those, they are very important books that we wanted to tell a story about the hunt for ksm, the people chasing him. it was an unintended consequence but it was through the investigation of that we really were able to i think tell also the story of how 9/11 came to be and how people missed it and how they missed the attack. one of the ways they did that was the fbi people that were chasing ksm in the late '90s really got sideways with their bosses because they were focusing on what was seen to be a cold case, an isolated case connected to some terrorist plots in malaysia,

ali was not there when we started to use enhanced interrogation techniques. >> bill: let's walk through it zufan says that the fbi got the information about khalid sheikh mohammed not the cia. true or false? >> the only two things that he got. the one thing that he got was that khalid sheikh mohammed was muktar that was the name he had used. even the story about jose padilla is not so. >> bill: don't get ahead of yourself there. who interrogated zubada first who you or the fbi. >> it was our prisoner. it was our detention facility and we had a joint fbi. >> bill: who went in first to ask him. cia or fbi? >> it was a joint effort and we went in together. >> bill: you went in together? >> bill: zufan says he got information from zubada that led to khalid sheikh mohammed without the rough stuff. >> it did not lead to mohammed, bill. >> bill: wait. once you started the rough stuff is that true? zubada basically had enough of the fbi and basically told zufan to go home. >> bill: i'm still confused did zubada shut up after you wausharaed him? did he just shut down. >> no we did not waushara him until august of that year. >> did the fbi get very high valued informatio

ali was not there when we started to use enhanced interrogation techniques. >> bill: let's walk through it zufan says that the fbi got the information about khalid sheikh mohammedia. true or false? >> the only two things that he got. the one thing that he got was that khalid sheikh mohammed was muktar that was the name he had used. even the story about jose padilla is not so. >> bill: don't get ahead of yourself there. who interrogated zubada first who you or the fbi. >> it was our prisoner. it was our detention facility and we had a joint fbi. >> bill: who went in first to ask him. cia or fbi? >> it was a joint effort and we went in together. >> bill: you went in together? >> bill: zufan says he got information from zubada that led to khalid sheikh mohammed without the rough stuff. >> it did not lead to mohammed, bill. >> bill: wait. once you started the rough stuff is that true? zubada basically had enough of the fbi and basically told zufan to go home. >> bill: i'm still confused did zubada shut up after you wausharaed him? did he just shut down. >> no we did not waushara him until august of that year. >> did the fbi get very high valued information without

ali soufan was not there. >> bill: let's walk through it soufan says the fbi got the information true or false. >> the one thing he got was that khalid shake mohammedas muktar the name he had used. >> bill: don't get ahead of yourself there. who interrogated would you have bait da first. you or the fbi? who went in first to ask him fbi or cia. >> it was a joint effort. we went in together: soufan says he got information to from would you have bade da that led to information about khalid sheikh mohammed without the rough stuff it? >> did not lead to khalid sheikh mohammed. >> bill: once you started the rough stuff sue would you have bade da would you zubaydah. did he just shut down. >> we not waterboard him until august of that year. >> did the fbi get high information about without the rh stuff the fbi and you. >> the only thing the fbi will give him credit for him to get the nickname of muktar and that was it. >> >> bill: so you contend that alisoufan is not telling the truth here. >> he doesn't know because he was not there when we started to do the enhanced interrogation techniques. he doesn't know what we got. we got thousands of intelligence r

ali soufan was not there. >> bill: let's walk through it soufan says the fbi got the information true or false. >> the one thing he got was that khalid shake mohammede name he had used. >> bill: don't get ahead of yourself there. who interrogated would you have bait da first. you or the fbi? who went in first to ask him fbi or cia. >> it was a joint effort. we went in together: soufan says he got information to from would you have bade da that led to information about khalid sheikh mohammed without the rough stuff it? >> did not lead to khalid sheikh mohammed. >> bill: once you started the rough stuff sue would you have bade da would you zubaydah. did he just shut down. >> we not waterboard him until august of that year. >> did the fbi get high information about without the rh stuff the fbi and you. >> the only thing the fbi will give him credit for him to get the nickname of muktar and that was it. >> >> bill: so you contend that alisoufan is not telling the truth here. >> he doesn't know because he was not there when we started to do the enhanced interrogation techniques. he doesn't know what we got. we got thousands of intelligence reports that