ali partovi, ceo of neo, thank you for sharing a personal story as well. i appreciate it.crypto exchanges can navigate the war. we will be joined by coin share to talk about crypto exchanges responsibilities as sanctions keep piling on russia. candies crypto-currencies truly be regarded as a safe haven? that's next. emily: after plunging at the start of the russian attack on ukraine, crypto-currencies have reasserted themselves as a refuge in the last few days. bitcoin rallied 16% over the last two days, but it is starting to lose steam as the possibility of expanding sanctions to prevent russians from using crypto-currencies is growing. i want to talk to meltem demirors, chief strategy officer at coinshares. what do you make of the back and forth and up and down, is bitcoin a safe haven or not? meltem: it is great to be here. i wish it were under better circumstances. this has been a really interesting few weeks. not only do we have this conflict happening in western europe and eastern europe, but we also recently had the canadian truckers and their access to the banking