nbc's ali vitali is back with the news. this is interesting.es the committee want to meet with him, ali? >> reporter: chris, this points to the december 18th meeting you and i were talking about earlier in the show. it's something the committee is going to be talking about a lot today because this is a meeting, in the words of congressman raskin, that was one of the crazyiest meeting in the trump white house between the former president, people like rudy giuliani and sidney powell, but also key white house lawyers, people like hirsh man who we've seen repeatedly throughout these hearings. patrick burn is someone who can potentially flesh out more about that meeting because he was inside of it. what it continues to point to is not just that this meeting is going to continue to be a focal point because this is a meeting where raskin says they're going to show us it was a hail mary strategy session effectively, the white house knowing it had lost the election at that point, but trying to throw spaghetti at the wall and trying to make themselves st

. >> nbc's capitol hill correspondent, ali vitali now. ali, what is senator manchin's reasoning? >> kelly, for manchin this is all about inflation. that spike in those inflation numbers earlier this week were what he called alarming. that's exactly what he said to senate majority leader chuck schumer. the two men have been huddled discussing this package quietly for months since its winter demise but now what manchin is saying is that it's not prudent to be doing spending to the tune of a trillion dollars. that's why he's saying no to key climate and tax provisions in this package and that has democrats very concerned, pulling up on the screen one tweet from snard ed markey who said the rage keeps me from tears, resolve keeps me from despair. we will not allow a future of climate disaster manchin trying to leave the door open for some potential action in the future, but nevertheless with inflation numbers where they are, he's just not able to get on board with the kind of package that democrats thought they were going to get here, kelly. >> on another hot topic today, the house t

the house passing a bipartisan bill, senate republicans now facing pressure to support it ali vitali has details from the capitol >> reporter: with court-given rights in jeopardy, democrats are pushing to enshrine them into law. >> we have to affirm it before the court overthrows it. >> reporter: despite seven years of precedent on same-sex marriage, new fear after the overturning of roe that the supreme court could revisit its 2015 marriage decision, leading to momentum to ensure they can't. >> our country's history is we expand rights, we don't go backwards. >> yeas are 267. >> reporter: 47 republicans joined house democrats tuesday to enshrine the right into law now the senate hoping to take up the cause >> i want to bring this bill to the floor. and we're working to get the necessary senate republican support to ensure it would pass >> reporter: a handful of republicans signaling support. >> this is an issue that many americans, regardless of their political affiliation, feel has been resolved so i think its time has come >> reporter: public sentiment backs that up broadly and am

ali vitali, don't go anywhere. there is a group that remembers january 6th, the lawmakers trapped in the house gallery as the rioters attacked the capitol. the gallery group that they call themselves sits at the back of the january 6th committee hearings everyone. ali, you spoke with them, you are still with us, what did they tell you about why they are there every day and why they decided to relive that very scary moment? >> katy when i go into every january 6th hearing these are the people i look to first. they are often at the back of the room. they come to as many of these as they can. they are not lawmakers that took an oath to defend democracy but they themselves on a personal level are at the center of what happened on january 6th. >> the haunting, pounding that just made my own heart race. >> reporter: at the back of every january 6th hearing, a group of people who uniquely know the sounds and scenes of the insurrection because they barely survived it. >> my thought, we could have all died that day. >> repo

ali vitali is tracking it all for us. >> reporter: new possible cooperation from an unlikely source, an about-face from top trump ally steve bannon, after former president trump green-lighted his cooperation with the january 6th committee, waiving executive privilege over bannon's testimony, though it was unclear those protections applied anyway bannon now saying he's open to testifying he's set to stand trial for contempt of congress within weeks over his previously steadfast refusal to cooperate with the committee. >> maga is on the march. the j6 committee is totally irrelevant >> reporter: his lawyer saying he prefers to testify live though committee members say that's unlikely but it's a pattern of new cooperation. trump's former top white house lawyer, pat cipollone, was deposed for nearly eight hours friday >> he was able to provide information, including the president's, what i would call dereliction of duty on the day of january 6th. >> reporter: cipollone present for key moments in those final weeks of the trump era. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, "please

back home the president suffered another big setback today on crucial parts of his domestic agenda ali vitali is at the capitol. ali, this is not welcomed news for a lot of democrats >> >> reporter: yeah, not welcomed news, lester. west virginia democratic senator joe manchin pumping the brakes on president biden's agenda manchin had been quietly huddling with top democrat chuck schumer since the demise of the multi-trillion dolla climate and spending package but citing inflation concerns manchin now saying no to some of the bill's spending related to climate, as well as taxing the wealthy. among what can get done, reducing prescription drug costs, but many democrats i talked to today are furious about how this played out. with republicans in opposition, all 50 democrats are needed to pass any bill the white house now urging lawmakers to pass this package by august and with democrats demanding a push on climate now, president biden saying he'll take executive action. lester >> ali vitali, thank you. >>> an update this evening on the death of ivana trump, the first wife of former president don

i don't think ali vitali or pete or luke or you have asked for a pardon. i don't think you have needed to. i don't think you wanted to. if it were a legal matter, i don't think you have to. prosecutors always struggle because it's a hard thing to do to prove in a criminal case intent, right? to get into your brain come into your mind, and prove to a jury what it is you intended to do. asking for a pardon is a window onto the soul. it is not an admission of guilt. it is not a confession but it is consciousness of guilt. you have to ask yourself a real practical question. who would ask for a pardon and why would they ask for one? like i said, i doubt anybody on this panel has ever done so or will do so. >> chuck rosenberg, ali vitali, luke broadwater, pete williams, thank you so much for being here with us this morning. >>> still ahead, a wildfire in yosemite national park threatening to destroy ancient sequoia trees. we are live with the efforts to protect them coming up. >>> but first, president biden said to commemorate the first gun legislation safety lo

we want to bring in nbc knew capitol hill correspondent ali vitali is joining us, michael schmidt, msnbc contributor, and glenn kirschner, msnbc legal analyst. glenn, let me start with you on this one. talk to me first about the significance of mark short appearing before a federal grand jury. >> it's hugely consequential. this is as high up as i think the department of justice has gone when it comes to subpoenaing and presenting the the federal grand jury that has the power to indict impeachment for their crimes unlike the january 6th committee. it's as high up as they've found in the political food chain. it seems based on the reporting that the only way we stumbled upon this is some investigative reporter may have caught him coming out of the federal courthouse in downtown d.c. then it was learned he appeared before the grand jury. that i think begs the question how many other potentially high government officials have been presented to the grand jury? we know doj does its business quietly and behind closed doors without telling us about it and hoping it doesn't leak out. this it look

let's bring in our team, nbc news capitol hill correspondent, ali vitali. nbc news's homeland security correspondent, julia ainsley. jeff bennett, chief washington correspondent for pbs "newshour," and an msnbc contributor. also, glenn kirschner with us, former federal prosecutor and an msnbc legal analyst. ali vitali, we've got confirmation, the former president was, in fact in the dining room. and he was, in fact watching tv. i feel like i'm playing a game of "clue" right about right now, but that's what a lot of americans were doing on january 6th, as the events played out on that now crucial day that we look back upon. what else can we expect to hear tonight? >> yeah, you can add a treat to your list of things that you're learning in these th "clue" game that we're getting from the january 6th committee this morning, because what congressman kinzinger has said as well, that not only was trump in the dining room, watching television, but he was doing so gleefully, to the point that the other lawmaker who is going to be leading this hearing, she called wh

capitol hill correspondent, ali vitali has been reporting this for nbc news. hat do we know about this white house staffer, and what do we know about what they have told the committee? >> alicia, as close to being in the room as possible, especially for those key moments that cassidy hutchinson teased out two weeks ago in that special hearing, that she was a part of. what this person could potentially speak to is more of those moments, bolstering her accounting, things like, for example, the former president having thrown a plate on the wall, with ketchup dripping down. that's in a room that cassidy hutchinson said she walked into. and some place that one of those support staffers could have had access to, because they were in those parts of the white house, that not everybody was able to be in. but what i think that this continues to show, perhaps even more important than who this was -- the way that the committee is trying to attack this final hearing, trying to make this justice position between the three hours in the capital was actively under violent attac

joining us now, capitol hill correspondent ali vitali. ali, good morning. this came as a surprise to a lost people, including to many of you who cover capitol hill so closely, that this was kept under wraps, the negotiations between manchin and schumer. what is the bottom line on all of this and how big of a deal could it be and is it going to get through. >> reporter: not just a surprise to us up here who cover the hill but to many of the lawmakers themselves. as we got this press release yesterday, as senators didn't know what was in the bill or that a deal was coming. nevertheless, they've had several huddles since then and in the next few minutes they'll be meeting, senate democrats in a building here, one of the biggest rooms they could get because they all need to hash out what this is going to look like going forward. but look, there is a lot in here for democrats to be happy about. doing things like allowing medicare to negotiate directly for prescription drug prices and capping the amount that medicare recipients will pay on those drugs. additional

ali vitali is on capitol hill, and ben collins, who covers extremism.ollone was subpoenaed, what is the commit company going to want to learn from him. >> now we know that subpoena has been extended, and we expect a transcribed and videotaped deposition to happen on friday, ultimately allowing the committee to excel a miredial of questions. we learned this, the idea that cipollone was in many of these rooms with conversations, and then, of course, his former chief of staff mark meadows, all of these were different pockets parts of various hearings in the past. now what his taped deposition will allow them to do is use this information going forward. the idea has always been, anyone who has agreed to go before the committee, even if not appearing as a technical witness in the hearing room, is effectively a witness anyway, because they are able to use parts of the video deposition. they have masterfully wove it into all these hearings. now, as we head to another week where we expect more hearings, you wonder if this video will be part of what we start to

ali vitali has the latest. what are you learning about the text conversation?xts that are important to the committee. they try to flesh out, what was happening in the white house and inside the secret service, around january 6th. these text messages, particular to january 5th and 6th, not able to are be recovered from the secret service. they turned over 10,000 pieces of information related to the subpoena. that being said, the secret service in this letter to the january 6th committee found a text message conversation. so, one text message conversation relating to the information they were asked for. and they do a lot of work to talk about the data migration they say is the reason why some of the next messages have vanished or been deleted. i will pull up the timeline. they talk about seeing if a migration to a different system was feasible. they tested that throughout the winter and fall. and they hit january, where january 16th, ten days after the insurrection, they are asked by several congressional committees to preserve information related to january 6th.

ali vitali joins us. ali, more and more information coming in all the time. more and more people coming in, including former cabinet officials. what's your take on the pace and the scope of the january 6 committee's investigation just in recent days? >> reporter: chris, this feels like the opposite of a pause. i know we're not standing outside the hearing room and watching they present information, but it's clear that they are still be very active behind the scenes. and what's also beginning to take shape is the fact that these hearings in the initial eight that we saw may have just been a way to show everyone in trump world, hey, look, we can bring the goods on this. it's why we saw the vice chair liz cheney saying something like the dam is breaking and there are more people coming forward. you look at that list of ex-trump aides or allies who are in talks to come in and speak with the committee. that does tell a story they are getting cooperation from heem people who are close to the former president and their investigation is centered on him. there are anc

we have lost people through this fight. >> john stewart with ali vitali.ng us now is a first responder john feel who has been fighting to get this passed for years apdz has lost some of his fellow responders along the way. louis alvarez, others who have testified and died of cancers. you have to be furious. >> thank you for having me. i wish i could be there with jon today. but i had surgery yesterday. i told jon to score score much earth this morning. he did that. america needs to know the gop stabbed veterans in the back this morning. pat toomey took orders from mitch mcconnell. thousands if not millions of veterans are now going to pay the price. many of them are going to die waiting. i'm trying not to show emotions today, andrea. if you want to bleep me, that's fine. but my heart breaks for those veterans. on june 16, we won. we passed the bill 84-14. for them to do this now and then say they are going to go on their vacation and then come back and we will get it done, that's cruel. jon said he is used to a lot of things but not the cruelty. i'm used t

joining me now from outside fulton county courthouse, ali vitali, i want to begin with you.he committee only got one? >> reporter: according to the january 6 committee they only found one session recording text messages around the period of january 6th but we know there have been deleted and missing messages around january 5th and 6th specifically. it's important, katy, to put this in the contest of the timeline. the secret service in this letter to the committee doing a lot of work to establish an idea that the system they were trying to implement and the reason those tex messages may be missing, that this was a long-planned thing they were talking about from the fall of 2020 really. nevertheless, the fact that they were planning this migration for many months, the committee started asking them for document presentation january 16th of 2021, so ten days after january 6th and the secret service went forward with migration and are in a position of having to defend why these text messages are missing. >> steve bannon, he was supposed to testify and defied the subpoena. what's

. >> joining me from capitol hill is nbc news correspondent ali vitali and senior reporter ben collins and peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the new york city. ali, marshaling the mob, give us a rundown of what we can expect tomorrow. >> that's the focus for congressman raskin and stephanie murphy, the two lawmakers expected to be leading this hearing tomorrow. their focus is not just on extremist groups. that's something ben knows well and we'll hear details tomorrow from people like the former spokeperson for the oath keepers as they talk about the way those organizations recruit but of course the central focus for this committee has always been tying all of these seemingly disparate threads and theories back to the man at the center of all of it, former president donald trump. that's something they've saved repeatedly on the sunday shows, both raskin and murphy that things like trump tweet on december 19th, telling people to be there and be wild on january 6th, that those were things that murphy called a siren call, not just to extremist groups but to everyone else wh

want to get to ali vitali on capitol hill. what i am hearing as we wrap up this incredibly surprising week to say the least is that there is a procedural vote happening in the next couple minutes. walk us through what you know. >> reporter: yeah. certainly a week with a lot of twists and turns here between the senate and the house. the house leaving town now, at least for the next week or so, and doing it with a flurry of activity before they get there, setting up this vote, this procedural motion in just a few minutes that's going to be a vote on the rule to get onto the actual vote on an assault weapons ban. in talking to house speaker nancy pelosi earlier today, she told reporters with a knowing smile that, yes, she expects this assault weapons ban to pass. of course even if the house passes it, it does not have the ability to get pass in the the senate based on the numbers and the landscape there. that's the reality of a 50/50 senate. nevertheless, this is a priority for democrats but not one that didn't come with a little

. >> let's now bring in nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali. good morning. so let's start there with congresswoman's luria's video release last night. it indicates that the january 6 committee, despite the prime time hearing, is still uncovering new information that it wants to share with the public and potentially the department of justice. >> reporter: well, look, what that tweet said to me is that there was stuff left on the cutting room floor that didn't make it to the prime time hearing but they're teasing ahead to. because we know from our reporting that we're going to see at least two more hearings when they come back in september. and where they have left us in the timeline after thursday night is what happens after january 6th. we know that was not the end point in terms of this conversation within the trump administration, in terms of the conversation within washington and certainly this is something that the committee has been warning about over the course of the last several months as they have been presenting these findings. that this threat of

ali vitali on capitol hill.violence are asking the ceo -- what are they doing to stop the violence? did we get an answer during the hearing to the victims? >> reporter: no. you hit the nail on the head. there was no answer. you see the way that they have been turning these questions both when the families asked them in a taped video played at the top of the hearing and then again when the chairwoman and others pressed them on the role of the people who are making these weapons in these weapons being used to murder children in schools, people in churches, people in movie theaters, all of the places we have seen mass shootings, even in the last few months, let alone over the course of the last few decades. but, of course, we are seeing the way the gun manufacturers are answering those questions, which is saying these are inanimate objects and speaking to the frame that we have heard repeatedly when these moments come up, which is that guns don't kill people, people kill people. of course, that is the very opposite

let me begin with ali vitali. we're learning more about what's going to happen tonight, learning more about the secret service text messages and what might have happened to them and the intense behind losing those. walk us through, give us a primer for what we're going to see in just a few hours. >> reporter: just a few hours from now, it's going to be the 187 minutes, a sharp contrast between the chaos and violence happening on the hill and the inaction from former president donald trump. they're going to use people who were inside the white house who were appearing there in person, those witnesses, but also people in their taped testimony who are going to be able to talk about how the former president was being urged to do more and instead he sat there and watched television to the point where congresswoman laura, one of the people leadings these hearings told me they're probably going to be using footage from fox news, the network we know is a favorite of the president. you have two people leading this hearings

ali vitali is joining me as well. what can we expect thursday, what are we hearing?rter: we know this will be the last in the summer series of hearings. i'm thinking about it as not so much as the series finale but the season finale. in part because they keep finding new information, they call in new witnesses. former overstock ceo was with them on friday talking about in part that december 18 meeting that chairman raskin and congresswoman murphy detailed in the last hearing. so for the committee, that has always been the challenge, active fact finding with the active fabt presentation. what we'll see thursday though is really a minute by minute accounting of what was happening on capitol hill that day juxtaposed with the inaction in the white house. and if you live to adam kinzinger this week weekend, he was saying that they filled in a lot of blanks. listen. >> we have filled in the blanks, this is going to open people's eyes in a big way. the reality is, i'll give you this preview, the president didn't do very much but gleefully watched television during this time

trump. >> i want to get to ali vitali who is on the hill right now. as we have heard from members of the committee there have been discussions about whether there would be a criminal referral sent to the department of justice. at the end of the day it doesn't matter whether there is a referral or not but those committee members do believe the justice department should be actively pursuing this. what are you hearing from them in terms of a reaction? >> reporter: they believe that the doj should be actively pursuing this and from the reaction we got last night they're pleasantly surprised to hear that they at least seem to be going down the road of asking questions about the former president's involvement with these fake elector schemes and other pieces of the puzzle that the january 6th committee have made public through their eight hearings so far. and that's why what you hear from the committee members is all of them towing the line of doj and the january 6th committee are not the same, they don't report to each other in the hierarchal way of washing

ali vitali is at the capitol. >> reporter: top trump ally steve bannon still in the legal crosshairs tonight after a judge ruled his willingness to testify before the house january 6 committee will not delay his trial fo contempt of congress it comes after that stunning reversal from bannon to cooperate with the very committee he had previously stonewalled and ridiculed. >> the j-6 committee is totally irrelevant. >> reporter: federal prosecutors arguing bannon's about-face over the weekend was little more to change the optics of his contempt on the eve of trial bannon has remained defiant while facing misdemeanor charges of up to two years in jail and steep fines if convicted. he's pleaded not guilty >> this will be the misdemeanor from hell for merrick garland, nancy pelosi, and joe biden. >> reporter: today the judge ruling bab non's team canno subpoena the house speaker or members of congress. including these comments the day before >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. >> reporter: over the weekend, bannon's attorney saying his new position is not a change of heart but o

ali vitali has late details. >> reporter: after a year of no democratic senator joe manchin now explaining how he got to yes >> i never reversed and i never walked away. >> reporter: just two weeks ago manchin pumped the brakes on talks citing soaring inflation. >> we just got to get this thing down to where it is something we can live with and we do what we have to do. >> reporter: democrats and president biden now rallying around it. >> some of you will see a lot of similarities between the beginning of the build back better initiative not all of it but we've moved a long way. >> reporter: the bill is smaller in scope in spending than past versions a price tag once over $3 trillion now down to roughly $430 billion with billions in climate investments, prescription drug pricing reform, and tax hikes on the wealthy and corporations while democrats say reducing the deficit by an estimated $300 billion republicans argue new spending will only make inflation worse >> i think it is really bad for america right now as we are trying to climb out of this spiral. >> reporter: tonight democratic se

nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali is with us. justice reporter ryan riley joins us along with "washington post" political investigative reporter josh dausee and former republican congresswoman from virginia barbara comstock. vaughn, i'll give you the floor first with the expectations for donald trump coming now as we said really in the shadow of the capitol, of the attack on the capitol, of the investigation into the attack on the capitol. we saw him lash out against that a little bit over the weekend as president biden is basically calling out donald trump's hypocrisy, essentially, with the former president expected to give a kind of law and order speech and president biden in just the last 24 hours saying hey, you can't be pro cop and pro insurrection, as he put it. >> right. and hallie, we're actually just getting the first images of the former president, who has arrived by plane in here to washington, d.c. this is his first trip back to washington, d.c. since leaving 552 days ago, since leaving the south lawn via marine one o

ali vitali kicks off our coverage >> reporter: new possible cooperation from an unlikely source, an about-face from top trump ally steve bannon, after former president trump green-lighted his cooperation with the january 6th committee, waiving executive privilege over bannon's testimony, though it was unclear those protections applied anyway bannon now saying he's open to testifying he's set to stand trial for contempt of congress within weeks over his previously steadfast refusal to cooperate with the committee >> maga is on the march. the j6 committee is totally irrelevant >> reporter: his lawyer saying he prefers to testify live though committee members say that's unlikely. but it's a pattern of new cooperation. trump's former top white house lawyer, pat cipollone, was deposed for nearly eight hours friday >> he was able to provide information, including the president's, what i would call dereliction of duty on the day of january 6th >> reporter: cipollone present for key moments in those final weeks of the trump era >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, "please make sure we don

democrat elaine luria is on the committee, telling nbc's ali vitali -- >> this is a dereliction of dutythe president. >> reporter: and committee member adam kinzinger releasing new video of white house officials, including former white house counsel pat cipollone, describing the president watching it all unfold. >> was the violence at the capitol visible on the screen, on the television? >> yes. >> reporter: republicans have blasted the hearings as partisan, though two former trump white hoofanuary 6th will testify tonight. lester? >> all right, kristen, thank you for that. >>> our coverage of tonight's primetime hearing begins at 8:00 eastern here on nbc. this brutal heat wave we've been suffering through is going to be around for days. almost 100 million americans are still under heat alerts. the ripple effects could soon start impacting your grocery bill. dasha burns has that story. >> reporter: tonight, a brutal heat wave baking much of the country. >> it is hot, hot. >> reporter: 98 million americans under heat alerts. the south, setting new daily records. el paso, texas, at 108, a

joining me is ali vitali. ali, give me the nuts and bolts about this. >> i just finished talking with chairman bennie thompson about that. they are trying to figure out if those text messages can be resurrected. there's a question about whether or not they're given for now or forever. that's the rabbit hole they are trying to work from. they were briefed by the inspector general this morning about those texts. i asked if the view was that the secret service have been cooperative on this, chairman thompson told me look no further than the letter that the inspector general sent to the homeland security committee to see that their view is no, the secret service hasn't been cooperative in finding these text messages. that's just one of the key considerations for the january 6th committee right now because the other thing they're talking about is the potential for subpoenaing former vice president mike pence or even the former president himself when i was talking with chairman thompson just now, he referenced one of

ali vitali, ryan riley. ali, we were talking about your interview with congressman jamie raskin who obviously has been investigating in some form or fashion donald trump for a number of years now. i had a chance to read through the transcript of this interview and i was struck by what he said to you, including this idea that that tweet that we were talking about on december 19th that i know is a focus of this hearing today that it will be wild. these groups changed the date they were thinking about rallying, but number two, that's how you in his view incite a mob these days. it's not something that happens online or social media. it's not like 20 years ago, if you will. >> reporter: that's the reality, if you want to bring a mob together in the 21st century, that's how you would do it, you would do it on the internet. so today there's going to be a focus in his words on what was happening online in some of these darker corners of the internet from these far right extremist groups who read that tweet and felt

if ali vitali tells me that chuck todd hit him, i want to know what matt says about that evidence. >>nder oath. >> the committee knows something that the rest of us don't know before i went out at the second h hearsay, i want to know what the firsthand witness had to say >> it is a third hand account. >> it depends on how you interpret it >> secret service agents don't talk about what they see or hear from their protectives >> well, lawmakers were briefed late on what the cassidy hutchinson's testimony were going to be. the rank and file committee were briefed late on this there was discussions on whether or not this key detail should have been included now, they're at a point that this is out there. we know people like liz cheney really wanted to push the envelope of what the committee includes this is one of those headline-grabbing details. it is fair to wonder whether or testimony would have been as shocking as it was i would argue it would have been even if you didn't have the few details of what happened in the limo the committee don't want you to miss the furthest from the tree.

i want to bring in ali vitali, barbara mcquade is a professor at the university of michigan law school, donelle works as a senior policy researcher at the rand corporation, katie benner is the justice department reporter for "the new york times." donel, you've been watching this unfold. could simple incompetence explain what happened here. >> at worst it's a conspiracy, at best incompetence. this is unconscionable to find that some of the evidence of a crime, and this wasn't a small crime, a large crime that happened at the capitol. any evidence should have been secured. the secret service is a soft advertised sophisticated agency. i don't understand what's going on over there. but i'm glad and welcoming the internal investigation going on. >> what do you think it will find? are you confident they'll get to the bottom of this? >> you mentioned in your lead the parade of errors. there are so many bad stories coming out of the secret service just in the last few years, i have no idea what's going on over there. they're a secret service. what we do know from the outside is that it seems t

wehave mike memoli and also ali vitali. and we have our mcrib contributors. ali, what more can you tell us about the situation of the bills? >> reporter: at this point it is really fluid. last night there were conversations between the head of the cbc and one of the front liners who is trying to get a vote on certain pieces of legislation that are in this package specifically relating to police funding. that is something that several frontline democrats have said that they want to see a vote on. and why there is a push to try to couple it all together with things like larger democratic priorities, like the assault weapons ban. but conversations that i've been having with progressive aides this morning are that progressives are not on board with this plan and why we're seeing a little bit of a delay in terms of when they are calling the vote. we expected the house to start voting already on this view that would have allowed them to move on to this package of legislation. but they may not have the votes at this point. and the strategy is important to understand.

nbc's capitol hill correspondent ali vitali live in washington for us this morning. ali, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, savannah, after a short break the january 6th committee is back for a new week of hearings and promising more revelations. but they also may be getting cooperation from an unlikely source. steve bannon now open to testifying, but there may be a catch as he says he wants to do this live and in public. the january 6th committee in the summer home stretch, a week of double hearings planned against the backdrop of trump ally steve bannon saying he's now open to testifying. this after former president trump gave him the green light, waiving previous claims of executive privilege, those it's unclear those applied. trump claimed bannon's testimony would be protected because it contained confidential communications with the former president. the committee disputes that protection applies. now perhaps frustrated with the televised hearings as witnesses continue to come forward, trump changed his mind. it's an abrupt about-face for a previously defia

ali vitali, thank you so much. peter alexander, thank you. jeh johnson led the department of homeland security during president obama's second term and is joining us now. i want to play the transmission that we heard last night, the communications between secret service agents trying to get vice president pence to safety during the insurrection. get your reaction on the other side. >> you've heard a lot of the secret service communications, you used to oversee the agency and also the communications that were testified to about national security official working for the nsc who overheard them sending messages to their loved ones and families because they thought their lives were in danger and they would have to be using lethal force to get the vice president out of his second floor office. >> andrea, i oversaw the secret service and i was a protectee for over three years and in their constant company. what we just heard is probably the thing from last night's hearing that stands out most in my mind. is highlights the proximity to real lethal d

joining me now ali vitali, jeremy peters. and tim miller, author of "why we did it." take us through what we can expect this week from the hearings and how they might open up to testimony eventually from steve bannon. >> reporter: that they're open to hearing from steve bannon. it's his openness that's new, although there's a fair degree of skepticism within the committee for obvious reasons, which is that bannon has significantly changed his tune from even just a few weeks ago calling the committee irrelevant to now saying because the former president waivd executive privilege that didn't necessarily apply bannon is now open to testifying. they do have new testimony from pat cipallone that we're going to see in the hearings this week, more than eight hours of testimony from cipallone speaking to key points of all the things we've heard already in these hearings. the important thing here, according to congresswoman stephanie murphy, is he didn't contradict any of the testimony we've heard already from key witnesses like cassidy hutchinson. listen. >> it provides us an

now let's bring in capitol hill correspondent ali vitali. thanks for being with us. how likely is the committee to seen guinea thomas and what is the latest we just heard from adam kinzinger. >> reporter: in the same way that congressman is here as not a lawyer, i am too. but what i can tell you, it doesn't even matter that the committee refers or doesn't refer criminal contempt charges to the doj. the doj can do their own investigation. which is why we're seeing sort of this two-pronged pressure campaign from the committee. toying with the idea as they are of potentially doing a criminal referral of donald trump once their work is wrapped up. but then also continuing to put the pressure on the department of justice to continue look into the things that committee has already put a public spotlight on throughout these eight hearings and we will likely hear more come september. my reporting is that we'll see two hearings in the fall and before that some kind of pre-final report that allows them to continue investigating because the important thing here is this is a com

. >>> we begin with the january 6 committee and nbc capitol hill correspondent ali vitali. brendon buck and kimberly atkin-store and sam stein. ali, is it possible that chairman thompson's absence could push this hearing or are they determined to keep this schedule? >> reporter: they are determined to keep this schedule, chris. especially because what's clear yesterday after my conversation with chairman thompson, who i would note was wearing a mask when he was talking to us yesterday, he seemed to leave the door open as all of the committee members have to the idea there are more hearings to come, specifically the idea that at some point in the last few days, the committee seems to have decided that their final report will come in the early fall still but that there will be some kind of scaled back report prior to that. in part, it's because they keep getting new information and they want to make sure that the final report is reflective of everything that they know, but at the same time, it's also a chance for them to do more hearings around this. we also know what the last

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committee member jamie rask inteling ali vitali. >> pat cipollone has corroborated almost everything that we have learned from the prior hearings. and he had clearly tried to talk president trump down from his efforts to override the election. >> reporter: cipollone speaking to the committee after bombshell testimony by former white house aide cassidy hutchinson. >> he said something to the effect of please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy. keep in touch with me. we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> reporter: meanwhile, in a stunning reversal, steve bannon now saying he is willing to testify publicly before the january 6 committee. after spending months refusing to cooperate. on monday, a judge ruled bannon's new willingness to testify will not delay his trial next week. for contempt of congress. charges brought because bannon stonewalled the committees's repeated questions. federal prosecutors calling it a last ditch attempt to avoid accountability. the main focus, bannon's role in the run-up to the 6th and the fi

. >> joining us now, ali vitali, former top economic advisor to president obama david goolsby and davidand you were in with nancy pelosi. this is a senate issue. she's about to go to asia with plans to go to taiwan or not, depending on what they end up deciding. let's talk about this senate bill. what are we hearing from sinema? larry summers was on here while you were in there with pelosi saying that he would say to her, this is an anti-inflation bill and it's a tax fairness bill. it's not increasing taxes on everyone that carried interest issue and it's good for the economy. >> reporter: that's exactly what senator manchin said when i spoke with him over zoom yesterday. it's the argument he continues to make. when i asked senator manchin if he would potentially be willing to lose the carried interest loophole provision, he said he wouldn't. that's one of the things that now goes into this balancing act. sinema previously drawn a line around that not being something she could support. manchin is now saying that he is not willing to lose it. it does bring us to an impasse. at the same t