alice alexander mckay says that incidents like this one drastically undermined quit ability different financial institutions. people is starting to see more, more incidence of misrepresentation of these commodities and misrepresentation of what they are, what these companies have a have in terms of what they have available to trade. and this all comes from essentially a trust slowly breaking down in the system. me see something that will under metal exchange o me does the business that it does. and he's able to have as many clients as it does because it has a long established almost 150 year reputation. and now what we found over really the past 20 years with regards to a lot of these long established trading establishments and financial institutions is the fraud has becoming as become more and more visible. you build up a reputation over hundreds and hundreds of years, sometimes in the case of the london metal exchange, almost a century and a half of continue, i continue operation. and so if it gets out there as a story, the companies that use to lend a metal exchange in london, meta