and by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation, and viewers like you. thank you. >> i'm evan smith, he's a pulitzer prize winning reporter nd best selling author whose biographies of bill clinton and vince lombardi of compelling. his latest is barack obama thhe's david maraniss. this is overheard. ♪ >> david maraniss, welcome. >> thank you, evan. >> great to see you. >> terrific o be here. >> this is a great book and the subject is so big, but i want to go kind of away from the book and ask generally about this president and why after all these years we still don't know where he's from, who he is, donald trump is asking for his college transcripts. i mean, there's not been a person in public life i would submit to you, about whom so much has been written, although out in the world so much apparently is still unknown. >> well, it's not unknown. >> of course i'm being facetious. >> he's the first african-american president. that's the first and only reason for all of this. >> this is all about race. >> it's all about race. >> at the end of the day you nev

and by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation and viewers like you. thank you! >>> i'm evan smith. he's an american-born historian and best-selling author israel's top diplomat. he's ambassador michael oran. this is overheard. >> we have 15 million kids in our country who grow up below the poverty line. >> most americans want the same thing. they want a good job. >> i realized there weren't a lot of people writing things in my voice, so i realized i had to do it for myself. >> and i love you because. >> we're a better country than we used to do, but we have more to do and we need to get at it. >> i will do that when i wanted to get that buzz you get for working at the absolute top dollar. >> mr. ambassador, welcome. >> good to be here, evan. >> thank you very much, sir. can you tell us what's going in syria? obviously a lot of these this week as we sit here. would you share with us the latest, please? >> widespread violence, 60,000 people killed. vicious regime -- regime is holding out, actually making gains in some places in the country. we are particularly concerned by the contro