elizabeth: criminal justice reformer alice marie johnson, a hero to many and give you the back story. alice served 21 years in prison for a first time drug offense and originally sentenced to life and pardoned by president trump and now fighting the good fight trying to help people. alice, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: what a story. so many people look up to you, you truly are a hero. what you see this new dc debate on the u.s. crime wave harming women, the question's been where is the me too movement, where are the defund the police democrat women who pushed for that? where are nancy pelosi, kamala harris, hillary clinton, rachi i talib and the squad. what is your take? >> liz, as a woman, i do not want to defund the police. i think we need to fund the police and make sure that they're focused on the things that they need to be focused on, not just writing tickets and trying to raise money. we need to make sure they have enough money to do their jobs and i've been working with jerone smith, a former trump adviser on a public safety coalition, and that is wha