the average working person doesn't understand and so you hear somebody like alice rivlin, the former head of the budget office of the white house who is funded by pete peterson and she comes out and says social security is going bankrupt we need to stop it or capsize and they don't always get the message about what is really going on. so the sort of an element of complexity and lack of good information out there about social security is a real issue. >> it has political support among the voters in general. >> i did the polling going back 35 years and i found it consistently if people were presented with the option of paying a little bit more in payroll tax in order to secure social security, they all say yes this is the earliest poll i found that was in 1977, and it's consistent. what's changed is the view of the elite in this country, not of working people. >> talk about what needs to be done politically to strengthen the social security system. >> there's three things that need to be done. we are talking about the political crisis, not the suppose of fiscal crisis. number one is, a

environment in which analysis is done quickly, frequently sloppily, used in a, the manner of, well, what alice rivlinsitting in the front row once called forensic social science. [laughter] that is, social science mobilized to make a legal or political case. and, therefore, the elbow room that administrators have for working through problems before they are brought sometimes almost hysterically to the attention of the public, that elbow room has been decidedly narrowed. so let me stop with that difference, and we can come back to the continuum you asked about later. .. business processes you would be executing, what would be the technology need to support the implication of the act. so i have given some thought to the fact that there is a little confusion perhaps as to what they might look like. >> what does they will look like. >> certainly it's important to understand that they won, and on day one will be synced exchange version 1.0. not to be confused with version two-point oh. improvements. there's no doubt this is an integral the complex undertaking. it represents really the orchestration of man

senator domenici and alice rivlin had a proposal on the table. a lot of timing elements. what is needed now i think is to be eyeball to eyeball and have the president really pushing democrats and republicans, starting in the senate -- i think it was a mistake to start in the house. i think it is much more difficult to do the deal in the house. i think it is much more possible to get it done in the senate. the president and the senate agree and then lay it on the doorstep of the house. i think the pressure would then build and we could get an agreement. i agree with virtually every word senator gregg said in his resignation. this is a doable deal, and it would be a profoundly positive thing for the country to get it done. >> i agree with everything ken says. let me just nuance it a little bit. you do not things -- you do not get things by in washington unless both sides are at the table. for the president, the potential of his presidency being sidetracked by a fiscal situation is distinct. it may not occur in his term, but it may occur right after his term. either way it w

. >> i like this quote from alice rivlin, is it that easy?> there is a little thing called scoring. we go through the process, you have the joint committee on taxation. you have to live by their score in order to legislate. it's a little more difficult now coming up with a recommendation in commission. having said that, there are a lot of good ideas. we are not lacking ideas. we are lacking political will. but we do not solve this problem, we will be in great jeopardy. >> i have a facebook question for you from louisville, ky. what policies can be put in place to help train for the jobs of tomorrow? it goes into the issue of how government spends the money and there has been some joint agreement that the government should spend money on things like this. >> one of the hughes -- one of the huge issues we face is the skills gap. we have thousands of people in ohio looking for jobs in ohio but we have 100,000 jobs open. why is that? they do not have the skills to fill those 100,000 jobs. they say unemployment is going down, not really. the labou

it is -- >> from alice rivlin all, isn't that easy?t quite that easy because there is a laughing in congress called scoring. people think pick up this proposal. when you go through the process on tax reform you got to go through the joint committee on taxation and live by their score to legislate so legislating is more difficult coming up with recommendations in commission the having said that a lot of good ideas out there. >> we are not blacking ideas, we are lacking political will and if we don't solve this problem we put the country in great jeopardy. >> a facebook question directed to you from cynthia koontz from louisville, ky. what policies can be put in place to help our country train and prepare a work force for the jobs of tomorrow? little 1 off in this conversation. our government spends the money. >> there is a joint agreement that government should spend money on things like this. one of the huge issues we face in our economy is the skills that. we have 400,000 people in a while looking for a job today, 100,000 jobs open. w

adversarial political environment in which analysis is done quickly, frequently a manner of,d in as alice rivlin once said, forensic social science, some mobilized to make a legal or therefore,ase and, the elbowroom that administrators have a for working through problems before they are brought come almost hysterically, to the attention of the public, that elbow room has been decidedly narrowed. i will stop it there with the differences and we will come back to the continuum. >> we will come back to that. i will give the doctor to question to -- a minute to catch his breath and we will go to bruce. a company such as maximalist does not typically get involved in the creation of policy, but then we look at the policy and figure out what the process these are that need to be implemented and what it needs to do to support the implementation. i have given some thought to the fact that there is a little confusion as to what day one might look like. >> what does it look like? >> it's important to understand that on day one, we will bill aeing -- we will see exchanger version 1.0 which will represent ad

adversarial political environment in which analysis is done frequently coming used in the matter of what alice rivlin sitting in the front row once called forensic social science and that is forensic social science mobilized to make a legal or a political case. and therefore, the oval room that administrators have for working through problems before they are brought almost hysterically to the attention of the public, that elbow room has been narrowed. let me stop at that difference and come back to the continuum. >> we are going to come back to the continue of the. as you noted, thank you. >> the perspective that we can bring a company's but we are then the ones that look at that policy and figure out what are the process he's that need to be executed and what does the technology needed to support the implementation in the ad so getting some thoughts that there is confusion at what it might look like, take a few moments to talk about that. certainly it is important to understand that on day one we will be exchanged version 1.0 and not to be a confused with 1.0 that will represent additional process i