so as commissioner alioto veronese said last month, i hope she gets a little r&r.ou don't take advantage of that travel, and that's your decision, and that's how you choose to operate. t the -- i wants to comment on the graduating class, 124 graduating class that all this audience aspire to do, maybe, in the 125th. the video was fantastic. i loved the video. good training department. got to show the -- everybody working hard, and a lot of the humor and the fun that went into it, but mostly the hard work and the dedication, and it was nice to hear the comments of the graduates about their respect for their instructors, and how they said they know they went above and beyond just to make sure that -- to not get enough demerits to get knocked out of the class. it's very easy. i've heard if you're walking across, you get a call from your girlfriend, and you're walking across the plaza, and you're supposed to be running, you get demerits. little things like that can get you knocked out. you have to pay attention, so that was good to hear. it was very, very wonderful. tha

commissioner francee covington, commissioner joe veronese alioto?m number two, general public comment. members of the public may address the commission for up to three minutes on any matter within the commission's jurisdiction and does not appear on the agenda. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole. commissioners are not to enter into debate or discussion with the speaker. the lack of a response by the commissioners or department personnel does not necessarily constitute agreement with or support of statements made during public comment. >> is there any public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> clerk: and please note that president cleaveland has arrived. >> thanks to traffic. >> clerk: item three, approval of the minutes, discussion and possible action to approve the meeting minutes of july 25, 2018. >>commissioner cleaveland: is there any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners? >> so moved the minutes, mr. chair. >>commissioner cleaveland: moved by commissioner

commissioner alioto veronese, i'm just really surprised hearing the names involved helping you draft this, they want to hire a medical doctor, specializing in treatment of mental illness to be a full time employee of the fire department. i don't understand it. if you are saying drug addiction is a mental illness, which it's not, it's an addiction, some people may refer to it, but i think that is pushing it too over the edge. i just don't understand that. is that a group decision? who -- without naming anyone's name but how did that surface? it shocks me. >> would you like me to respond? >> yeah, how did that come about? >> there are departments that have looked to the assistant of different types of physicians to form their units. some departments actually have some within their units. i'm not saying that we need one. that's not what this says. and so, it's very clear to me that the language and the format of this document is misleading people on this commission. because that's not what this document says. this document says, what this document really says, is there are experts out t