commissioner alioto veronese? >> commissioner veronese: thank you, commissioner. i apologize for the late jump-in, but i wasn't going to say anything, but i think this is really important. this is a position that we all know is critical to this department. it'll be interesting to see over this time period of new hire how impacted this office is with -- with the physician missing, but doctor, as we spoke before, it's really important that we're not clinicians up here, we're not doctors. our knowledge base is limited as to exactly what this department needs, so your input is also greatly appreciated in the job application description. it's really important. i'm curious, mr. president, to what our ability is to actually recruit specific people as opposed to -- for such a critical position as opposed to just taking from a list of the willing who apply. i know that i've served on commissions before where we've put together a task force of sorts -- i'm not saying it's needed -- but to actually go out and recruit other people perhaps away from other departments or other

commissioner alioto veronese? >> commissioner veronese: i understand we're going to be using paramedic larry to retirement, which is a bummer. he's a great guy and he's done a great service for this city. i just want to thank you, chief, for coming up with that program -- under your administration, certainly. it's a great program that we now have paramedics on bikes in the airport. it made me feel more secure in that airport because it's kind of siloed out there in its own little world. great job on that. larry's a great guy. really made me feel and my family feel good about having those paramedics in there. >> president nakajo: thank you very much. commission vice president covington? >> commissioner covington: thank you, mr. president. i just want to say that last week, we had a very reference and acknowledge our commission secretary, marie comfrey who really worked very, very hard on that retirement to make it as nice as it was. it is a great thing to see members come in and actually smile when they go out, as