mark [speaker not understood] and ali winston as well as the league of women voters nominee, alison washburn. i do believe that it's important to have diversity, but i also believe that when you have qualified applicants and the law actually requires that you fill these seats, that it's important to move those -- the people that have applied forward. and i do have a concern, quite frankly, that we are in violation of what the ordinance, the sunshine ordinance requires. i also think that there were a number of other candidates that could have been moved forward, including the highly qualified lee hepner and, you know, while i actually appreciate that some of these names didn't move forward, i think that it's important for us to look at these appointments in their totality so that we're not in any way not following what the sunshine ordinance require. i do have a question for legal counsel, though. >> mr. givner? >> so, i guess, you know, my main concern is that by not moving forward the nomination by the sbj and the league of women voters that we are essentially in violation of the sunshine o