because in the campaign, he averaged and i hope he is not listening, but he averaged around which is aliste tremendous 7:40 pace, and i wasn't a runner. in fact, i didn't like to run. but he ran a race in d.c. as president, ran a 3 mile race, made the cover of runners world, ran a 6:40 pace for 3 miles. but at the ranch, and where he ran, he was averaging about a 7:10 pace, so just the training of that alone, the agents would equipment the radio, a weapon, no vest, and then the president bush started these heat runs. i didn't know what a heat run was, and neither did he when he created it, but he formed this hundred degree club which later went to his mountain bike, and so it's -- you could start out thinking, you're in pretty good shape. it's finishing the race with the president and do you have enough energy to hopefully and successfully evacuate or attend to the medical, so you're definitely in training all the time. but it was a -- you had to look at formations, you had to look at with 41 as everyone knows ken kn -- kennebunkport, the coast guard assisted but the secret service agents h