brookings and i am really honored and i'm really excited to celebrate the launch of pete singer and allan friedman's really interesting book which i have right here in my hand, cybersecurity and cyberwar what everyone needs to know. endorsed by everyone from the former commander of nato to the head of google, to the producer of 24 and homeland. were going to talk about the big issues in cybersecurity so what are the policy implications and what are the policy responses and what can we do with ordinary folks? peter as i'm sure you all know is direct or of the center for 21st century security and intelligence here at workings. allan is now a visiting scholar at the cybersecurity policy research institute at george washington and was here at brookings for three years. and it's interesting to me, just to kick things off that this look is coming out now. we have sort of had it seems like a stream of cybersecurity stories, mishaps, events in the last five years and so i guess i'm curious why you guys decided now was the time to sort of in a way kind of go back to basics and set the table and kind of lay o

. >> my name is allan friedman and i'm at brookings. to be a computer scientist and i wasn't very good at it so i got a degree in public policy which make's me a economist and of mediocre political scientist and pay for less. when you are mediocre at that many things you simply have to move to washington. a few years ago i wrote a paper on identity fraud from sort of a systemic risk perspective and i'm also here to plug a book coming out in january cybersecurity and cyberwar which ties together how these different issues are related to these broader international discussions. >> my name is zach intrater and i'm the assistant u.s. attorney in -- i worked in the economic crimes unit and more specifically part of the computer hacking and intellectual property section in our office here at our office is one of the first ones to start up a so-called chips unit. the coolest unit in the office obviously. so i worked on these types of cases pretty much every day. >> let's go to the first question. chaplain strategy does a lot of research on ide