>> the international herald tribune had a front page story of that and they interviewed allan russberger, the editor "the guardian." he said that our laws are different from american laws regarding journalism. they terrorized this guy, the partner of greenawald for nine hours. i mean this is just amazing. where do you go from there? >> interesting question, what connection did this have back to the u.s. government. >>> there's not been a lot of evidence that the white house knew about this. >> under british law, they can hold someone for nine hours. what the brits said was that mr. miranda was carrying stolen information and they were holding him under the terrorism act. now we can quibble as to whether that was the proper vehicle, law to hold him under. but he was acting as glen greenwald's mule, is what the government allegation ed. and that wasn't heard in the united states. >> i don't think -- i mean his partner also worked with him on his journalism and so i think that he should have the same protection as an american journal irs should have. >> i think that's a really poor argument