and the fact that i was able to work on that book with allan shepherd, our first in space was great, it was, and congratulations and again, thank you for coming up with us, and the question as you heard jay mentioned is what is next for nasa and the american manned space flight, and joining me to talk about that is nbc news correspondent tom costello, and we are hearing people talk about orion over and over and explain orion and is that part of the scrapped constellation program? >> yeah. well, it is. the orion is the space capsule that will carry people into space eventually. the trouble is that for most of us to understand this, we have to break it down into two categories. going forward, nasa has two approaches, a low-earth orbit destination which is the space station, and a long destination, if the you will, that require heavy rockets which could be mars or asteroid or the moon. and at the moment, the plan to go to low-earth orbit is to turn it over to commercial venders and in other words, hiring a taxi service. they are still arguing over who that could be or competing over who