center at hillsdale college which you ran, who is allen p. kirby?w jersey businessman who has been interested in liberty throughout his life. he was interested in citizenship and the constitution and the intersection of those things. what virtues do we need as citizens to keep our constitution going? >> did he find the whole thing? >> he funded a large portion of it. we have a building that is not far from c-span, a couple of blocks from the u.s. supreme court. we took three row houses built in 1892, we finished that project about three years ago. >> you were the founding director of the charles r and kathleen k hoagland center for excellence. who are they? >> they are businessmen and video waswhom family their enterprise. chainss of video rental across the country, mainly based in the midwest. hoogland had a store in hillsdale, michigan and came to the college and said, i would like to be involved in the work you are doing. the college and the president of hillsdale got talking with mr. hoogland and established this program for high school teachers