trump made known through allen weisselberg that he wanted his net worth reflected on the statements to increase, it is our weisselberg and others carried out year after year and there fraudulent preparation of statements. and when asked about these meetings under oath as part of our deposition, both the men, mr. trump and mr. weisselberg, it evoked their fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination and they refused to answer. when asked under oath if he come up mr. trump, continued to review and approve the statements after becoming president of the united states in 2017, mr. trump again invoked his fifth amendment village and refused to answer. over the course of our investigation we found that mr. trump, is children, the trump organization created and used more than 200 falls and misleading asset valuations on his statement of financial conditions over that 10 year period. they issued statements that were in clear violation of general accepted principles in the general accounting principles of the united states, despite representing that the statements were prepared in accord

and then you have the branch manager, allen weisselberg, jeff mcconney would be the teller. atever you had first went to allen, but it would have to be signed off by donald in order for this thing to become effective. so that's why when i always say that donald knew everything about everything going on at the trump organization. >> how about his kids? because one of the things that the new york attorney general said was that they were basically involved. let me read it to you. as executive vice presidents of the trump organization, donald trump jr., ivanka trump and eric trump knew and participated in the scheme. the three children were intimately involved in the operation of the trump organization's business. do you know what that means, that they knowingly participated? >> so, again, it's a small family company. this is not, you know, ibm or google or meta. this is the trump organization. it's a small, very close-knit, and there were other than them, eight additional, nine additional executive vice presidents, myself included. so, yes, they were intimately aware of everythi

that is allen weisselberg has settled and that case is going forward. that will happen before we see any resolution in attorney general's case, unless there's a quick settlement. it doesn't look like that's going to happen. that's what we're going to be talking about for a while. i have to say, one of the things that just struck me, we don't know where it's going to land, but $250 million is a lot of money for penalties that she's seeking. that in itself -- that's a tax. you can't deduct that from your taxes. we don't know if this goes to a judge and there's -- it ends up in a courtroom where there's going to end up. that's a large number. that's going to include interest. that's got to be weighing on them as well. >> chuck, what about these referrals to the irs, the referrals to the manhattan d.a.? does that proceed quickly? this is just handing them her evidence and then they have to start all over again? some of these are parallel. >> sure. i don't know they have to start all over again. a number of these organizations had presumably their own invest

trump made known through allen weisselberg that he wanted his net worth reflected on the statements torease, a desire mr. weisselberg and others carried out year after year in their fraudulent preparation of the statements. and when asked about these meetings under oath as part of our deposition, both men, mr. trump and mr. weisselberg, invoked their fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination and they refused to answer. when asked under oath if he, mr. trump, continued to review and approve the statements after becoming president of the united states in 2017, mr. trump, again, invoked his first amendment privilege and refused to answer. over the course of our investigation, we found that mr. trump, his children, the trump organization created and used more than 200 false and misleading asset valuations on a statement of financial condition over that ten-year period. they issued statements that were in clear violation of general accepted principles in the united states despite representing that the statements were prepared in accordance with these principles. some of the commo

trump made known, through allen weisselberg, that he wanted his network reflected on the statements tomr. weisselberg and others carried out year after year in their fraudulent preparation of statements. and when asked about these meetings under oath, as part of our deposition, both men, mr. trump, and mr. weisselberg, invoked their fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination and they refused to answer. when asked under oath if he, mr. trump, continued to review and approve the statements after becoming president of the united states in 2017, mr. trump again invoked his fifth amendment privilege, and refused to answer. >> they pled the fifth, but this is a civil case. >> yes, so the pleading the fifth, it may be invoked if you think the answer could expose to you criminal prosecution in any venues, so the southern district of new york or the manhattan district attorney's office, you can invoke your fifth amendment right. but what's different in those cases is that with this, letitia james can use that and bring it before a jury. it is an adverse inference to the invocation tha

trump made known through allen weisselberg that he wanted his net worth reflected on the statements toincrease. a desire that mr. weisselberg and others carried out year after year. in their fraudulent preparation of statements. >> james also went out of her way to mention the investigation was predicated on congressional testimony from trump's one-time lawyer michael cohen. >> i will remind everyone that this investigation only started after michael cohen, the former lawyer testified before congress and shed light on this misconduct. >> you might recall that cohen disclosed trump's financial dealings to congress under questioning from democrats on the house oversight committee. >> did the president or his company ever inflate assets or revenues? >> yes. >> did the president ever provide inflated assets to an insurance company? >> yes. >> who else knows that the president did this? >> allen weisselberg, ron liebermann and matthew calamari. >> where would the committee find more information on this? do you think we need to review his financial statements and his tax returns in order to

try to essential low handcuff donald trump, donald trump jr., eric trump and ivanka trump and allen weisselberg and the other financial officer, to handcuff them and have other roles. >> the business can go to another place. but for folks like weisselberg, this has been his living. it stops him from doing that in the future. and the advantage of the civil process, lower standard of proof. >> appreciate the conversation here. >>> next, the other big story of the day, the president of the united states with direct response to russian president vladimir putin. this after moscow says it will send more troops to ukraine's front lines. do the fragging seed. press...press. hit me! i got my alt. that's 472hp and 395 pound feet of f torque. what's up with this team sheet? inverted fullback and a false 9? the limited slip diff lets you hammer the throttle. you don't get it, till you go all in. bloggers! stick it in the onion bag. the lexus is, all in on the sport sedan. ever wonder what everyone's doing on their phones? they're investing with merrill. think miss allen is texting for backup? she's totally

this >> allen weisselberg, ron b.bellman, and matthew calamari. >> and where we did the committee find more information on? this do you think we need to review his financial statements and his tax returns in order to compare them? >> yes, and you'll find it at the trump org. >> michael cohen will join me onset right here in just a moment to discuss what he witnessed at the trump organization. you might have heard there, he mentioned a guy named allen weisselberg, longtime chief financial officer. you may remember the just last month, that individual that you see there, pleaded guilty to financial fraud as a part of a separate investigation by the manhattan district attorney's office. that same office issued a statement today announcing its investigation into the trump organization's ongoing. new york attorney general james also says she is sharing information with the irs, and the southern district of new york, which is where federal prosecutors could conceivably bring criminal charges if deemed appropriate. to be ver

mister trump made known through allen weisselberg that he wanted his net worth reflected on the statementsout year after year. and they're fraudulent preparation of the statements. and when asked. about these meetings under oath as part of our deposition, both men. mister trump. and mister weisselberg in vote their 5th amendment privilege against self incrimination. and they refused to answer. when asked under oath. if mister trump continue to review and approve the statements after becoming president of the united states in 2017. mister trump again. invoked his 5th amendment privilege and refused to answer. over the course of our investigation. we found that mister trump. his children. the trump organization creating used more than 200 false and misleading asset valuations on a statement of financial condition over that 10 year period. the issue statements that were in clear violation of general accepted principles in the general accounting principles in the united states, despite representing that the statements were prepared in accordance. with these principles. some of the common tacti

. >> have you heard from anybody inside the trump camp, allen weisselberg, especially since you got outg. >> nothing? no attacks, no phone call? >> nothing. >> the overinflation of assets was astounding to me, michael. when you look at inflating the value of trump park avenue, right? inflating it up to $130 million in real value of that being 84.5 million. mar-a-lago, 739 million. the real value, 75 million. -- says that he didn't necessarily believe it was 75. he believes is much more than that, but certainly less than 739. trump -- 291 million was inflated lu. 56 million. a lot of folks inflate the value of their assets, maybe about $100,000 or so if you are looking to get a loan. this is an egregious inflation of assets. was there ever a moment in which you said, donald, what are we doing here? we are breaking the law. how did you continue to do this and support this, really? >> so, i was tasked along allen weisselberg and i've gone through this extensively with both the da and the ag, as well as members of congress. seven different congressional committees. donald trump had tasked m

starting in 2016, the trustees of his trust, donald trump junior and allen weisselberg for the sole benefit of mr. donald trump. each statement was personally certified as accurate by mr. trump, or by one of these trustees as part of the loan process, with the intent that the information in the statement would be relied upon by banks and insurers. mr. trump and mr. weisselberg would meet to review and approve the final statements every year. mr. trumped made known through mr. weisselberg, he wanted his net worth reflected on the statements to increase, a desire mr. weisselberg and others carried out year after year in their fraudulent preparations of the statements. when asked about these meetings under oath, as part of our deposition, both men, mr. trump and mr. weisselberg, invoked their fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination, and refused to answer. when asked under oath if he, mr. tr trump, continuing to review the statements after becoming president from the united states in 2019, again invoked his fifth amendment privilege, and refused to answer. over the course of our in

>> allen weisselberg. >> do we need to review his tax returns and financial statements? >> yes. you would find it at the trump org. >> that prompted the new york attorney general's office to fire off a number of subpoenas, including to the trump organization and some of the lenders. they went on to interview more than 60 people, including the former president and his three adult children. the former president and his son eric trump declined to answer questions hundreds of times. but this is what brought us all to this moment today, the culmination of this investigation that the new york attorney general credited michael cohen with. >> there's also this parallel criminal investigation being conducted by the district attorney of manhattan. this is separate and distinct. what do we know about that? >> right. this investigation by the manhattan district attorney's office is parallel in nature. involves a lot of the same sorts of potential allegations. in a criminal case, the burden of proof is much higher than in a civil case. the manhattan d.a. initially slowed down this investigat

and the former trump organization cfo, allen weisselberg, and the controller, jeffrey mccartney. donald trump said the move is a political witchhunt and called her a racist and a fraud. here we are in new york with more on those allegations. >> i'm standing right outside of trump ter in new york, and this is part of the allegations, because the new york state attorney general says the former president made 200 false statements about the value of his assets, inflating them, and thated to them netting $250 million. she referred to the famous book "the art of the deal," saying, claiming money you don't have is not the art of the deal, it is the part of the steel. this -- the steal. this was set at being 30,000 square feet, when it's under 11,000. the property was valued at $327 million. no apartment in new york has sold as much. that was one example of what she says is a long set of evidence she has against the former president. this is a very serious legal matter because, while it is a civil case, what she is seeking from the courts is to remove president trump and his kids from be

allen weisselberg, the former chief financial officer of the trump organization, who had to plead guiltyhis year to commit all charges, is set to testify in that case. we should expect to see interesting information coming out about potential fraud coming from his testimony. that too is yet another sentence where mr. trump is facing legal jeopardy. don't forget he also is facing these state investigation in georgia over the calls to brad raffensperger and the attempt to "find votes" in georgia. there is the justice department's january 6 inquiry, which is ongoing. the house of representatives is conducting a parallel investigation into mr. trump's role in inciting the insurrection. host: at what point do the republicans turn around and say there are too many legal cases here, there is too much smoke, go away, deal with all of this and stop trying to be the senior most famous republican on the planet, it is not helping us? >> that is a great question. there is a significant number of republicans that would prefer that someone else runs in 2024. for a number of reasons, one is that the pre

eric trump was called back in 2020, and the filing references also allen weisselberg who's now a felonconceded to improperly inflating apartment values and then invoked the fifth on other lines of questioning. check this out. weisselberg asked, if the value is overstated by a factor of three. he replies, i didn't do the math, one-third, i would agree with that. they follow up, so, on the order of a $200 million overstatement, give or take? and weisselberg confirms, give or take. so, the now-convicted felon, who was in charge of the money at trump org, admits the change here, what james says is fraud, was on the order of $200 million on just that one asset. and again, let's be clear. if mr. weisselberg or these trump officials were involved in this for only one asset, you wouldn't have a case, and you certainly wouldn't have 200 pages. what you have here, at least according to letitia james's office and investigation, is a pattern and a practice of a criminal organization. that's not my job to be judge and jury here. as i've emphasized to you, there are some things that could also go in

i mean, remember that allen weisselberg, who was trump's cfo, has already plead guilty to these -- to these offenses. 15 different felonies he plead to. 15 felonies. and somehow i don't think that allen weisselberg is the one who committed the most crimes here. >> so, a former prosecutor described the evidence that she's marshalled to me as being presented in, quote, mind-numbing detail and the conduct spans ten years and the pattern that we've been talking about, overevaluations which is kind of undeniable. and i want to turn to what the criminal investigation would look like. the document production and what is in her complaint, i don't see michael cohen's name anywhere, i mean, clearly, if he was the match that started this, what has been filled out is, you know, hundreds of pages now of evidence based on documents that are indisputable. >> already on the public docket are ten years of the former president's personal financial statements or at least his presentation of his wealth. and when you start to go through and i'm there with susanne, it's going to be a day or two of read ing

trump made known, through allen weisselberg that he wanted his net worth reflected on the statements to increase a desire mr. weisselberg and others carried out year after year in their fraudulent preparation of the statements. and when asked about these meetings under oath as part of our deposition, both men, mr. trump and mr. weisselberg, invoked their fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination and they refused to answer. when asked under oath if he, mr. trump, continued to review and approve the statements after becoming president of the united states in 2017, mr. trump again invoked his fifth amendment privilege and refused to answer. over the course of our investigation we found that mr. trump, his children, the trump organization used over 200 false allegations over that ten year period the issued statements that were in clear violation of general accepted principles -- general accounting principles in the united states despite representing these statements were prepared in accordance with these principles some of the common tactics they used include representing that

donald trump, three of his children, the trump organization and two of his executives including allen weisselberge attorney general's office laying out decades of examples they say showed trump and his business overvaluing real estate holdings and other assets allegedly deceiving lenders and insurance brokers with misleading financial statements. >> examples like former president trump's own an apartment in trump tower having been inflated in size, mar-a-lago also having its valuation inflated. >> singh trump able take out loans based among other things on his allegedly overblown net worth, something she says average americans cannot do. >> it is a tale of two justice systems. one for everyday working people. one for the elite. reporter: trump denies any wrongdoing, his attorneys called the suit politically motivated and abuse of authority. the attorney general is asking the court for a $200 million judgment and barring any of the tribes from running a company in the state of new york. saying no when including a former president is above the law. james did say she made criminal referrals to the i

and i was, as i had stated, i had worked with allen weisselberg, which i testified to, not only to the the district attorney and to seven different congressional committees, you know, along with other law enforcement agencies. the goal was to appease donald. each and every year he wanted to be richer on the forbes list. it's extremely important to him. so he'd say i'm worth $6 billion. within a second -- you know, in fact i'm really worth $7.5. you know what, i'm richer than that. the more i think about it, i'm worth 10. so figure out how to make the personal financial statement from the year before $10 billion. >> what do you think he's worth? >> up 1, 2, at best. >> what do you think -- do you have any information that could help the attorneys? >> oh, i've given everything. i've gechb tiven thousands of documents. >> do you think they used your information? >> according to tish james, absolutely. i gave personal financial statements. the problem and why trump gets away with what he does is because there's only a handful of people within the inner circle. everybody else is external. w

. >> now, james did claim trump and his chief financial officer, allen weisselberg, would meet to review and approve the financial statements every year and she asked both men about this during depositions. take a listen. >> when asked about these meetings under oath as part of our deposition, both men, mr. trump and mr. weisselberg, invoked their fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination and they refused to answer. when asked under oath if he, mr. trump, continued to review and approve the statements after becoming president of the united states in 2017, mr. trump again invoked his fifth amendment privilege and refused to answer. >> bernarda, our reporting is that he invoked the feifth hundreds of times. can that be used against him? >> 140 times, ana. absolutely it cannot be used against him in a criminal case. however, in a civil case it can and will be used against him. there will be an inference drawn against him for not answering these questions. donald trump is the same one when running for president said when you invoke the fifth, that means you're guilty. so mr. donal

allen weisselberg, the chief financial officer for many years, his right-hand man, when it came to financemay not be charging trump directly but the trump organization, that's him that's president trump. it was a family run organization and it was all president trump. that is just one example, the documents, to january 6th, congress, so many things -- we are going to hear, perhaps, from laetitia james, the new york state attorney general, about her investigation into some of the business practices. we are looking for to hearing that. he has so many issues on the plate right now that he has a battery of lawyers, ever-changing, of course, cast of characters, some of them leave out of their own exposure or have been paid or what have you. and it is all consuming. it is the war that he is waging right now. >> it's like peter's reading my mind, joyce white vance. new york attorney general tish james. she is holding, tomorrow morning, what is being described as a major news conference. last week, the new york times reported that james could potentially sue trump -- obviously, we don't know what

something his co-defendant, allen weisselberg and others carried out year over year. >>> let's bringn national security attorney bradley moss to talk about this. bradley, let's start with the justice department, a federal appeals court ruling the doj could continue their review of the classified documents seize in the mar-a-lago search. two of the three judges were appointed by trump, i think that's worth mentioning here. this refute's both trump's lawyers arguments but the lower court judge, eileen cannon and what she ruled. >> this was the 11th circuit bringing things back to reality. this is where the case law actually is in this type of situation. that for a civil plaintiff to be bringing this action, trying to regain access to documents that had classification markings on them and now in the custody of the fbi in a criminal probe, there's no basis, no standing, as the 11th circuit noted, no possessory interest to those documents in the absence of evidence of declassification. even that was a potential red herring in the sense that the search warrant wasn't about classified infor

trump made known through allen weisselberg that he wanted his net worth reflected on the statements tor. weisselberg and others carried out year after year. >> does that match your experience? >> yes. and i discussed it with them at length and i provided them documentation, including the personal financial statements. that was obviously -- what it did was it gave them the ability to take the documents i provided, not just to them, but to all the various congressional committees, the house oversight committee that it was posted live on, and what they did is they track it back. for example, the craziness about his triplex apartment. 30,000 square feet, highest price ever attained. in fact, the whole building is not worth that amount of money, and it's never seen that amount of money. they did it with seven springs, mar-a-lago, virtually every single property, including his golf courses. so that's the big problem. >> when you see her act where others have not, including the d.a. case, which famously got to weisselberg but not beyond, do you think it's something different about james? do y

attorney general was able to obtain evidence from the trump organization's chief financial officer allen weisselberg who testified about the value of the former president's apartment here in trump tower. take a listen. >> mr. weisselberg conceded that using the false square footage improperly inflated the value of the apartment almost threefold mr. weisselberg admitted that this amounted to an overstatement of give or take $200 million. >> now in a statement today the trump organization said this represents the culmination of nearly three years of persistent targeted unethical political harassment by the attorney general. shep >> eamon javers amidst the hecklers outside the trump tower. >> a reporter asked if she was willing to settle out. she said she's already rejected a previous offer but added the doors are always open. carol lambs now. she is a former u.s. attorney for the southern district of california carol, thank you she didn't rule out a settlement i mean, how much leverage does letitia james have now to get a deal she would agree to? >> she has a lot of leverage right now. i mean, the com

as i have stated, i had worked with allen weisselberg on these documents which i testified to not onlyorney general, the district attorney, and to seven different congressional committees along with different law enforcement agencies, the goal was to appease donald. each and every year he wanted to be richer on the forms list. it is extremely important to him. so what he would do is say i am worth six billion, then within a second, in fact, i am worth seven and a half. you know what? i am actually even richer than that the more i think about it, i am worth ten! so figure out how to make the personal financial statement from the year before ten billion dollars. >> what do you think he is worth? >> one, two at best. >> one, two at best. do you have any information that could help the attorney general? >> i have given everything. i have given thousands of documents. >> you think that they used or your information? -- >> absolutely. i gave them the personal financial statements of several years, i had explained to them -- you know, the problem with why trump gets away with what he does is

condition, his financial worth statement, and that that information was docked up with approvals allen weisselberg or the cfo of the company was involved in that, and they weren't, and the attorney general has come back in the complaint and i will just read a little bit because it really captures where he potentially could get in trouble. because of that misrepresentation and the misrepresentation will get the trump organization a bitter premium they said in this case the veracity of the rest of the information disclosed by the trump organization, that would be the zurich, during the renewal would have called into serious questions whether xerox should continue its insurance relationship with the trump organization, or review a must favorable terms. that's where you get into trouble, you are going to financial institutions, and you are making of these sort of claims, you are withholding information in some cases. you are lying. the complaint, i was reading it, over, and over, and over different examples. whether it is banks, insurance companies, approvals to the irs, it goes on and on. >> on and o

you know that allen weisselberg has already pled guilty, but the trump organization itself starts thectober 24th here in new york. >> we have the january 6th committee, the classified documents case, and the civil case, a lot to get to, ladies, thank you for keeping it all straight for us. i appreciate it. >>> and vladimir putin needs xi jingping, but does xi jingping want to take that risk? what we learned from their face to face. first up though, what happens to the queen's estimated $28 million now that she's passed? y . we spent our whole pension but couldn't keep up. so my husband just stopped taking his medicine. and then he had a stroke. i can't get back what i lost, but thanks to aarp, a new law will protect seniors with a cap on their prescription costs. that could have changed everything for us. i'm just grateful that no one will have to face the terrible choices that we did it's the all-new subway series menu. twelve irresistible new subs. the most epic sandwich roster ever created. ♪♪ it's subway's biggest refresh yet! [school bells] when pain says, “i'm here,” i say, “so

over a ten-year period over 200 valuation fraudulent-based statement and the benefit of having allen weisselbergstimony and the most important aspect unlike a criminal prosecution where the burden on the government is beyond a reasonable doubt talking about the civil context. one decision to invoke the fifth amendment saying, listen, i won't say anything to build your case, government or incriminate myself. it's important here because in the civil context that can be used against you unlike in a criminal prosecution. so the fact they took the fifth amendment about these issues is going to be problematic down the road but, of course, as was pointed out, she has campaigned in part on the idea of trying to prosecute or to sue donald trump and so there may be this air of a political axe to grind but it cannot overwhelm and fatally undermine if there is evidence to support any of these allegations against this company and those who have been a part of it. >> cara, you were in the room when the attorney general, letitia james, announced she is suing the former president of the united states and you're

allen weisselberg, the former chief financial officer for the trump company recently pleaded guilty toe with the prosecution. >> the department of justice got the green light to continue the investigation into the documents seized from trump's home at mar-a-lago. federal prosecutors were told to stand down and stop looking at the seized documents until a court appointed special master completed his review of those documents. the government and argued that a ruling from a judge in florida impeded their investigation and national security concerns. trump said that his team and he had the classified the documents before leaving the white house. but a federal appeals court ruled it could find no personal interest for trump. in documents marked classified and no evidence in the record that he had declassified them as president. >> well, republicans are criticizing the federal reserve's decision to raise interest rates in an effort to reduce inflation. gop lawmakers say the way to bring down inflation is to change the biden administration policies. our dc correspondent anna wiernicki has mor

i think most importantly, trump's own cfo, his chief financial officer, allen weisselberg, has already pled guilty to 15 different felonies relating to these trump income tax, you know, trump organization frauds and that's 15 felonies. i don't think weisselberg will be the one who committed the most crimes at end of the day. i think these examples go to recent times that tish james isolated as well so there's a long pattern. i don't think it is right to just point to the 2010 stuff because she brings it up pretty close to the present here. >> thank you. you can get more of these reports from neil at msnbc.com/openingarguments. we turn to sam number who went through the legal process in the muller probe. welcome back, sam. >> thank you for having me on. congratulations on five years. >> thank you, sam. we did hit five years. we have drawn on a lot of different people, yourself included over those years, and that's why i want to come back to you. specifically on the trump org case, we go to people who have been involved or actually have been at the scene and you know those who don't. i a

his children, donald trumer, ivanka trump and eric trump, and former trump organization cfo allen weisselberg, just explain to us what these charges actually relate to. i what these charges actually relate to. . , . ., , ., to. i am standing right outside of trump tower _ to. i am standing right outside of trump tower in _ to. i am standing right outside of trump tower in new _ to. i am standing right outside of trump tower in new york, - to. i am standing right outside of trump tower in new york, and l to. i am standing right outside of. trump tower in new york, and this to. i am standing right outside of- trump tower in new york, and this is part of the allegations, because the new york state attorney general says former president trump made former l neck 200 false statement about the value of its assets, inflating them, and that led to them netting 250 million dollars. she referred to the famous book the art of the deal, saying it is the art of the steel. the triplex apartment here, it is claimed, that donald trump owns was set in financial papers at being 30,000 square feet when in realit

and former trump 0rganization cfo allen weisselberg and trump 0rganization controllerjeffrey mcconney have been available to the company. to pay lower taxes, to satisfy continuing loan agreements and to induce insurance companies to provide insurance coverage for higher limits and at lower premiums. his conduct was all in violation of executive law, section 6312, which gives the attorney general broad and special powers to go after persistent and repeated fraud and illegality. as part of demonstrating illegality under that section of law, 6312 we show that they violated several state criminal laws. including, falsifying business records, issuing false financial statements. insurance fraud. and engaging in a conspiracy to commit each of these state law violations. the new york stated attorney general there. for more on the story. the new york attorney general is accusing donald trump along with donald junor, ivanka and eric champ of falsely exaggerating how much he was worth by billions of dollars in order to convince banks to lend money at preferential rates. claiming you have money t

he treated allen weisselberg like he treated sean spicer.ere are no new facts. you can't create facts. he's creating new facts about the square footage of his properties and the wealth he has. and he's been lying. like he was with the crowd size and his health reports. now i think it is melting all around him. i think letitia james is moving. i think the 11th circuit down in florida is helping him move to actually study those documents. and i think, of course, doubling back, what's going on is that the house and merrick garland are going back to the original crime of september 6th. they're going back to what role he played in endangering the life of his own vice president. i think they'll look at that clearly and saying they're not there to hurt me, but they were there to hurt the vice president. eugene, the report we saw, the police officer with the capitol police, he was the guy defending people like mitt romney. the president was the one leading them on to attack him. i think they have to penetrate that key crime there, january 6th, befor

>> allen weisselberg, rob leaner man and matthew calamari. >> and do you think that we need to reviewd his tax returns to c ompare them? >> yes, and you would find it at the trump org. >> and those of us in the public learned from the first time in that exchange and provided key insight into the trump organization's pattern of shady business practices which brings us back to where we started. the metaphorical hurricane this week, a huge lawsuit for donald trump, donald trump jr., eric trump, ivanka trump from a trump extramarital affair to this. >> fraud and deception that was used by mr. trump and the trump organization for their own financial beneficial is astounding. inflating the values of assets by whatever means necessary to increase mr. trump's purported net worth. i will remind everyone that this investigation only started after michael cohen the former lawyer, his former lawyer, testified before congress a this high school -- misconduct. >> and joining us now is michael cohen. his new book is out next month. and i want to pull back the curtain about what you can see there, bu

he did go forward with charges against allen weisselberg, and the trump organization.mp organization will go on trial this fall. this, these issues and the same conduct that attorney general james outlined in great detail and her civil losses will be the subject of a criminal trial against the organization. a c>> you know, daniel, let's y donald trump wanted to fight this. could his kids take a different path and settle on their own? >> probably not in this case. i think it's all sort of wrapped up in the same conduct. i think in theory they could try to settle but in reality because they are also inextricably intertwined in the conduct, and they're obviously related, they will almost certainly stick together in whatever they do. but jonathan, the key issue here, and i think is important for u.s. understand. this is a civil case. it's not an indictment, it's a lawsuit. that has a lower burden of proof and it also allows for the senior executives and the principles of an organization to be held liable for the organizations misrepresentations. that cannot happen in a cri