that being said, have i no respect for allen west after the e-mails.e was childish. >> how can you compare that? >> they are not on the same level, but i am just saying allen west comes out and makes statements. a little is to try to get publicity. he literally said -- if you have something to say, say it to my face or shut up. >> we actually covered that and said it was silly. >> it is not the same. >> that's an old-fashioned response to a woman -- the way he responded was an old school, old-fashioned way that a gentleman gets angry and says something. you can't compare the two. i know you weren't, but anyway -- i see you trying to say something. >> well i am struggling because these are two eloquent statements. >> i think that it reminds me of the hurricane that came through on the weekend. and i think carson was just being a little expansive on the talking point of the dnc and the democratic party administration for this coming election. we don't know what else to do with this tea party. you brand them as racist and you get on with it. and i think w

andre carson and allen west. you said carson should. apologize. but here is the thing.g he knows what he is saying care. isn't true.eor he doesn't care. he is hoping the black vote doesn't turn out in 2012. ath he sill say anything he thinks he has to. it is the cynical exploitation of black people by black o people. >> i am speechless. i i want to keep my job. j >> toe kay. i think it is different for maxine waters. she is flat out crazy. >> masa, you said clearly carson is lying about the teain party wanting to hang peopleople by trees. i'm not even sure it didt d anymore.retty much c i think the line has been erased.il >> if anything will cross itchi. it is this, the lynching. >> i hope so.ilou s bill, you seem to think that allen west shouldn't have saidhe he will lead the caucus over this. he wants them to condemn the remarks and disassociate the disa caucus from them.s what's wrong with that? >> that is not bad, buteally? walking out in a huff is a bit much. p if the caucus does presidentcite -- doesn't disassociaten wes themselves, they sho

it depends on, you know, if we have a congress full of allen west and jim demint's, i can enjoy civilian life, and that sounds very appealing. but again, i wrote the book because we need more allen west, we need more jim demint, we need more michele bachmann and sarah palin. and maybe some of you right here in this room. but as an outsider looking onto my race, when people watch what happened realize that things that you said 25 years ago are going to be dug up and taken out of context, you go why the heck would ever do that? why would i put my family through that? why would i embarrass myself our risk my reputation like that? and if we allow them to do that we are allowing them to win all over again. because we need more troublemakers to challenge the status quo, to hold this administration accountable to put their name on the line. and again, we might not win the first time around, but we are making a difference. and we are paving the way and moving the standard further along for future candidates, especially, especially for women. so i really tip my hat to what your organization is do

eastern. >> allen west meets with constituents in palm beach gardens. he recently returned from the middle east. this is about one hour 45 minutes. [applause] >> good evening. i would like to welcome you. we will have a presentation of the callers by the honor guard. we will of the pledge of allegiance. the mayor will make some opening remarks. the congressman will go to the washington, d.c. update. then we will have a q&a session. with that, we'll get started and present the colors. >> left, left. left, left. left, right. detail, halt. left face. present arms. >> i pledge allegiance to the flight of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all. can you see what so proudly we hail last gleamingt's whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight watched rampartss we were so gallantly streaming glaree rockets' red the bombs bursting in air gave proof through the night that our flag was still there o say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave o'er t

i did cyphers nights tool time awards night it was a florida congressman allen west and a first term republican who's got a history of outrageous behavior and comments since arriving in washington is here he's a hard line conservative and he's not really a fan of gays women's rights or islam i don't fact he has a habit of attacking islam and muslims on the regular he believes that islam is trying to bring sharia law here to the u.s. so as we move closer to this sunday's tenth anniversary of the nine eleven attacks congressman west is decided to use the date to spread more islamophobia see today here in washington the congressman held this reading of the documentary sacrifice the survivors the untold story of the ground zero make a mosque and let's just play it the film has a little bit of fun and muslim slant we found the documentaries trailer online today and this is how it starts. controversy surrounding an islamic mosque and cultural center in the works at ground zero. this is not. this is. it it's as if there's going to graze all those that they killed. all right so as you can se

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i mean, one example is pretty much everything that comes out of the mouths of representative allen westnd when your producer called me to be on the show, i was rather surprised that it was to react to someone expressing sympathy against islamaphobia. another representative says day in and day out about muslims. >> bill: did west say anything that you can quote to us, because i'm not real familiar? >> only that islam is the enemy and that islam is not a religion. >> bill: okay. you may remember that i said on "the view" that muslims attacked us on 9-11. all right? and then that caused all kinds of controversy, as joy behar and whoopie goldberg walked off the set. at the time i was kind of surprised because at the time i thought everyone knows i was referring to jihaddists, but they were all muslims. but i don't consider myself anti-muslim. i've been to many muslim countries. always enjoyed myself there. admire the culture. i'm not anti-muslim. but i guess you would think that i would be? >> actually, bill, this may surprise you, but i don't. i've heard your positions. i disagree with man

so what does colonel allen west think about the plan to leave only 3,000 troops in iraq by the end ofve here and you are, too. hour two of "fox & friends" for a wednesday starts right now. >> live from the news crossroads of the world, this is "fox & friends." >> wow. that sounds so professional. >> makes us sound very professional and very important. we are because look who we have coming up on the show today. starting off with dana perino moments away and we'll have colonel allen west as we discussed, karl rove will be here as well and financial advice from dave ramsey. >> followed by more financial advice from triple h. no, he's a wrestler, in a big movie and really strong. >> yeah, and governor haley barbour will be joining us and we'll talk about all sorts of stuff and we have a whole bunch of news. two more hours to go. we start with a fox news alert. >> 10 people were killed and dozens injured during an apparent terror attack in india. a bomb reportedly hidden in a briefcase went off as hundreds of people lined up outside a courthouse in new delhi. this is the deadliest terror

against rick perry unfortunately none of the other republicans are much better and the very very ugly allen west the tea party congressman from florida is keeping up his one sided feud with democratic congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz back in july he called her bio unprofessional and despicable and said she didn't deserve to be respected as a leader or yesterday in a radio interview west i'll get on even. no mention of any human issue to be undiplomatic newsgroup you keep going. first thing pops and. it will. be a book is a story about what i said if i believe this is the end of the first you know. what does anyone really surprised that ellen was continues to act like a sexist separator after all he is a favorite of the tea party and that's a very very a. coming up with the troy davis execution still fresh in our minds there's another tale of an innocent man who was put to death coming forward and yes which republican governor has his fingerprints all over the story of cameron todd willingham after the birth. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions i

allen west, great conversation.licans by and large don't want to engage african-americans and unless you engage, they will never hear what you have to say if you run from them, then you have no shot at ever getting their votes. >> all right. we only have 20 seconds left so john, just very quickly your final thought. >> look, progress is being made to break down these stereotypes that are rooted in history. tim scott, african-american elected. you need to understand american history in light of politic and policy and just ignore the relationship between race and politics in american history is just to ignore fundamental faultline. it's always been there. you can't just dismiss it or use labels like brainwashing. >> tell your buddies come talk to me, mary. >> great discussion, john avlon, roland martin, mary matalin -- you guys can continue this offline. we got to let you go. thank you very much, all of you. >>> coming up, caught in the cross fire of the battle for gadhafi's hometown. thousands trying to flee sirte, a

. >> there are some members of the tea matter who are -- allen west, herman cain. >> you know what iall them? >> orioles. >> oreos. >> black on the outside, white on the inside. >> bill: that's awful. president obama would be wise to distance himself from that kind of hate speech. talking points said if the election of 2012 will largely be a referendum on the president. yes, the republican challenger will be important, but at this point, all the polls say the same thing. more americans want the president out than want him to continue. the class warfare strategy of promoting tax cuts for working americans and tax increases for the affluent has some potential for barak obama, but only if the republicans fail and make a good economic case. one vivid example, i would accept an income tax rate of 5% more, but only if, only if mr. obama and congress drastically cut spending first. and knock out the so-called solyndra sin drum. why would any american, including warren buffet, accept higher taxes when there is so much irresponsible and wasteful federal spending going on? it's just insane! mo

. >> herman cain and allen west are free to believe what they want. but if they are going to say their beliefs are better for an entire minority group, they should point to some policy that proves it, don't you think? african-americans have every right to think republicans aren't on their side. they remember these pictures of the last republican president parting with john mccain when thousands of african-americans in new orleans were trapped by hurricane katrina. we can never forget. herman cain is the first 2012 candidate to play the race card. and it just might work. cain is trying to divide americans along racial lines. and i think tonight that white republicans love it. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, are herman cain's comments out of line? you can always go to our blog. results of the poll coming up later on in the show. joining me tonight is congresswoman maxine waters of california. maxine, great to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> what is your response to herman ca

hall meetings starting with democratic rep rep hobby of the serra and los angeles bread and rep allen westn palm beach gardens, florida and later, president obama in detroit where he is addressing a labor day rally on his efforts to create jobs.

should he stay in that organization, you think, mary, allen west?sentative of great american black leaders. you know, glenn beck did an astounding, remarkable series on the civil rights struggle in this country, including black founding fathers. and that congressman and maxine waters who said all the tea party can go straight to hell, they are not in that great tradition. and they should be condemned. and a huge attraction, a significant attraction, and this is quantified in the polls, to barack obama, among white people, was his promise to be post-racial. this is retroracial, and not only should the cbc condemn it, the president should condemn it. >> oh, absolutely not. >> this is a moment for him to step up and say, enough is enough. >> donna, i want -- >> mary -- >> that's what he ran on, donna. >> also respond to the suggestion that mary made that congresswoman maxine waters who said that these guys can, in her words, go to hell. did he go too far as well? >> i want to step back, and i think everyone should step back and breathe a little deeper.

it was quite striking to see the turn at the we had last week including people like allen west, who was impeccable tea party political credentials. not quite going as far as senator kyl. but the process of the super committee. if you could give us some insight. >> the way the super committee was set up -- they were given a charge to come up with additional savings. there's a base amount that is written and. my committee has come up with the same numbers. that really is about $465 billion of cuts. if they don't find other savings equal to the $1.2 trillion to $1.5 trillion, the default trigger would cause that to be -- to also have another $500 trillion in cuts to get up to that number. if they are successful, those cuts are already excessive. if they do not reach that goal, which probably would have to be accomplished through cuts -- the intel opprobriums -- the entitlement programs, then we look at this additional $500 billion in cuts, which the military could not sustain and we cannot continue to have anywhere near the military that we have now. i am meeting shortly with senator kyl t

should he stay in that organization, you think, mary, allen west? not representative of great american black leaders. you know, glenn beck did an astounding remarkable series off civil rights struggle in this country, including black founding fathers, that congressman and maxine waters have said the tea party can go straight to hell. they're not in that great tradition, they could better condemned, and a huge attraction, and this is quantified in the polls to barack obama among white people, was his promise to be post-rasht. they retroracial. not only should the cbc condemn it, the president should condemn it. >> oh, absolutely not. >> he should step up and say enough is enough. that's what he ran on. >> donna, i'll let you respond, but also respond to the maxine waters that they could go to hell. did she go too far as well? >> i think everyone should step back and breathe a little deeper. some of the comments made by tea party members towards the president, towards other americans, it's been downright hostile again it's inflammatory. i think congre

tom price from georgia, allen west from florida.chael steele told the guys, you can talk to black folks on the show. sent an e-mail to every press secretary in the house, great show, open conversation, david has been on my show, we've had great conversations. they refuse to do so. they can't even talk to black folks even in a television studio. that's why african-americans don't talk to them. >> why don't -- sometimes they get frightened. they worry they will meet a negative response. that's news to me. you should go everywhere. that's the point of politics. you go everywhere. if people don't all like it, they are not going to like you. you never need 100% of the vote. you need 51. >> talk to black folks and have a conversation. economics education, don't think it's always going to be a conversation about a social program. have a dialogue. here's the deal -- >> great snacks in the green room. >> i'm shooting my show next week in atlanta. herman cain, you want to come talk, we'll have a conversation. >> let's see if anybody does. >>

tea party groups calling on representative carson to immediately resign and we have congressman allen west who is part of the congressional black caucus calling on its chairman to condemn these comments and disassociate the black caucus from these types of remarks. does he have a point. >> he does have a point. it was back in march of 2010 when representative clyburn said if members of congress were participating in the types of attacks and terrorist language that we saw coming from the tea party, you know, that if they participated then they were aiding and abetting. i think he made a very clear statement that that type of rhetoric shouldn't be accepted. so did congressman carson cross the line? absolutely. should he apologize? absolutely. is this pog h something he should resign over? probably not. i think the calls for his resignation are a little far-fetched. why we are seeing statements like this coming from congressman carson, from maximum waters i think it's the building of extreme frustration after having watched the past couple of years the tea party basically say that they are wi

but now congressman allen west is threatening to quit.s the cbc is putting out, quote, racially motivated rhetoric and here is the latest example of what congressman west is reacting to. read this very closely, along... >>... change in congress... martha: incredible, isn't it? let's bring in the tea party activist and a fox news contributor. welcome. >> thank you. martha: so, basically, this congressman is saying that there are other congressmen in congress, right now, who would like to see people lynched. that is exactly what he said. >> this andre carson, i call him a clown. you know, this guy is one of the head people in the congressional black caucus. he is inciting racial tension in our country. this is very irresponsible. instead of debating and talking about the failures of the progressives and their policies, he is going around in his little puppet road show in the black communities and these little meetings, complaining and spewing this racial rhetoric which is very irresponsible. he's trying to rip up these individuals and, you

represent live allen west said tuesday morning he's considering leaving the group in light of commentsade by representatives andre carson, democrat of indiana, the caucus whip, who said at a town hall that mean tea party-affiliated members of congress are see -- see african-american as second-class citizens and would be happy to see blacks hanging from a tree. when you start using words such as lynching that's a reprehensible word, west said on "fox & friends." and giffords recovers. the idea of challenging arizona representative gabery elgiffords for her congressional seat was once unthinkable but a few potential candidates are starting to test the political climate. too soon? yes, says arizona political analyst michael o'neil. host: that's in "the washington times" this morning. and as is this article. "9/11 donations overseer of aid." host: last call on government stimulus spending, denver, democrat, hi. caller: good morning, peter. am i on? host: you are. caller: first of all, i want to say i am very much in favor of the stimulus. i am in my 80's and i lived through the great depre

allen west, he is on capitol hang -- hill, herman cain.t is hard to say that this movement has a racist strain when three of their beloved heroes of the movement are african-american. and not just one -- that is just one of the marietta examples to show that a lot of this is not right. host: a lot of follow-up on one final point. the media is accused of making this a two-man race between riparian mitt romney. is there room for the other candidates to move up in the polls and to get the attention that seems to be no oxygen for these other candidates? guest: possibly that rick perry and mitt romney both have to stumble. when you see rick perry and mitt romney stumble, and both campaigns will try to get them to stumble, and remember, perry has a lot of critics down in texas and around the country, actually. we do not know what will come out of the worker. but it both stumble, there is michele bachmann right there, rick santorum potentially and newt gingrich can increase in the polls, but michele bachmann is in a position, ron paul is in a pos

allen west voted for beach replenishment project. he is from west palm beach. you can excuse him. if you're from a land-locked state absolutely no excuse for voting for beach replenishment projects and you should be held accountable. i think on all these issues if the information is out there on trains parents way, not stolen by people forced to join labor unions and siphoned into the democratic party. if you put the information out there transparent way a people that vote can hold their members of congress accountable that. is way i go about campaign finance perform. >> mike, that is outrageous. john kerry is in land-locked state of pennsylvania but has five beach houses. you can't expect him to oppose a beach replenishment program. [laughter] yes, sir, there in the cap. >> how you score -- i work with i 46 caucus. we were working how to vote a resolution that screws up this deal. do we weigh it this way or weigh it that way? give us some idea how you came score it. straight up, vet why or no plus or minus? >> we looked at this about 45 votes that have happened. one of the advant

ron allen, nbc news, united nations. >> reporter: this is martin fletcher in the west bank where thousands of palestinians watched the united nations, applauding their president abbas. >> i hope that tomorrow and after tomorrow we will get our own state. >> reporter: throwing shoes at israel's prime minister. it's a long way from talk to change. what palestinians call the moment of truth began badly. earlier, one palestinian was killed during a clash with jewish settlers and soldiers. and at a border crossing, palestinians attacked a symbol of israel's domination. 15 minutes from the heart of jerusalem. the violence is more of a symbol than a threat. so far it's just a few palestinians throwing rocks at israelis. more of a show than anything else. there is a warning. if there is no real change, pride could turn to frustration and much wider violence. [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> reporter: he says, stones are our way to tell them we must have our state. stones and fire. right now the wind is in favor of the palestinians blowing the smoke straight into the face of the israeli soldie

several fires are burning outside oklahoma city and another has burned down dozens of homes west of fort worth. jason allenf cbs station ktvt in dallas/fort worth is near the fire line. jason, tell me, what's the situation this afternoon? >> reporter: residents had been making plans to actually go back into their neighborhoods, but that was before all of this started that you see behind me. this is an area where the fire actually started two days ago. now not only has it rekindled but these gusty, swirling winds have pushed it across a highway and at least back in the direction where neighborhoods are. firefighters have moved into this area in the air and down here on the ground to fight this fire on a new front. >> pelley: and how extensive is the damage so far? >> reporter: i talked to one woman who lost her home here in april. she was evacuated again this week. she had been in her neighborhood and told me she does not recognize the streets she lived on. when you look at these homes, it's maybe just some bricks, a kitchen sink, an ironing board that gives you a clue this was somebody's home. but resident

allen's memory went to the pit with it. .. even among its congressional delegation. never agreeing from the west side of the mountains to the east side of the mountains. but it has a strong reputation for diversity and dissent and most of all the legacy of ethan allen, since his time where people went to start over, to start again. thank you. [applause] >> this is where i usually say fire at will. >> we have time for one or two questions. >> and the review of your book, reference is made to his being and at the get of separation of church and state. can you comment further on that? >> well his attack on the established church of new england in his book is just that. he doesn't think that you should have a puritan hierarchy. in vermont or in new england. he was speaking mostly to new england. he did not use the word separation of church and state. that phrase was coined by thomas jefferson in a letter to the secretary of the navy during a bitter re-election campaign in 1803 that there should be a wall of separation. jefferson's only book aligns very well on his views along with this book and both

west. a's hosting the tigers to clinch the american league central friday night. bottom of two, scott sizemore punches one in right. in comes brandon allen. a's on top, 1-0. two batters later they get another. coco crisp drops in front of austin jackson. the a's go on to 5-3 victory. 49ers host buffalo. we will have the highlights at five. i'm mike shumann. have a great day. >> coming up, a shocking discovery. people look for missing nursing student, michelle le. of, uncover a body. and the hazards ever the san francisco skyline and the review unnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn >> welcome back, everyone. an alameda county medical examiner will try to identify a body found yesterday by volunteers searching for missing nursing student michelle le. if dna tests are required, that could take weeks to determine. the volunteers were checking a remote area off interstate 680 near sunol when one searcher found human remains. a hayward police officer with the group immediately sealed off that area and called in sheriff's crime scene investigators. >> one of the search party members did discover remains. right now that's all we know. there is nothing that

ever again on the west and upon the thousands and thousands of innocent people who have suffered as a direct result of al qaeda and taliban's ideology. >> reporter: and fred, general allenhe threat of the taliban as well. it is something we will always be fighting but essentially the goal, the mission here now is to train the afghans to take over their own security. certainly by the time of the end of 2014, that is when it's slated that most u.s. as well as nato troopses, combat troops are slated to come home. >> suzanne malveaux, thanks so much from kabul. ten years after 9/11, memories of the attacks are still fresh in the minds of so many survivors. >> i was crawling on my hands and knees and reaching out then going a little bit farther. and everything i touch burned me. >> a 9/11 survivor recalls the attack on the the pentagon and his i am probable escape out of that burning rubble next. [ hayden ] what if there was a makeup that didn't just hide your breakouts... but actually made them go away. neutrogena skin clearing makeup has our proven blemish fighting formula so it clears your breakouts. now that's beautiful. neutrogena®. >>> it's been ten years since the 9/1

congressional delegation from the west side of the mountains to the east side of the mountains but it has a strong reputation for diversity and most of all the legacy of ethan allen and is since his time where people went to start over, to start again. thank you. [applause] this is where i usually say five-year attwell. >> in the review of your book reference is made to his being an advocate of separation of church and state can you comment further on that? >> is a tug of the established church of new england and his article is just that, he doesn't think that you should have a puritan hierarchy in vermont or in new england. he was speaking mostly to new england. he didn't use the words separation of church and state. that phrase was coined by thomas jefferson in the letter to his secretary of the navy during a reelection campaign in 1803 that there should be a wall of separation. but jefferson's lolly brooke aligns very well on his book with ethan allen's on the book and both of them firmly believe that there had to be separation between church and state. and indeed in vermont by law in any new community the school had to be built before the church could be buil

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