acid -- allison rosenthal. in users.aw a spike people want it when they want it. >> what is going to happen, we are going to move away from the carriers for texting, whatever you want to collect, to other applications, over the top. it is very interesting but it does not mean the dollars are going to transfer. one study said $35 billion worth of text messages did not happen. that does not mean it is spent over the top. it went away from the carrier. be value may already intermediated by things like whatsapp. in the enterprise. >> blackberry also unveiled new phones they will be releasing later this year. john chen is ringing the keyboard back. >> we have heard this before. >> i want to get to that. take a listen to the sit down. people care about security, but they really care about data privacy and personal privacy. that point has not been made well enough in the market. i am a fender of that. when i speak to people about the advantage of blackberry, i say security, collaboration, communication, all of that st

johnson and i spoke with bloomberg's contributing editor as well as a former facebook executive, allison rosenthalked rosenthal if whatsapp really is worth more than $19 billion. >> it is growing at a million users a day, at 72% daily active users. people are getting on to the service every day, talking about the things they are working on, chatting with one another. there is value to that, whether it is 19 or 15 or $25 billion. >> you know more than anyone how difficult it is for an app like this to hit the mainstream and stay there. a guest said, he does not know what he will be using on his phone in five years. why is this worth it? whatsapp started in 2009. they were the first cross-platform messenger to emerge. they own exogenous relationships. emerging markets outside the u.s. -- they are growing like crazy. they have been building and building. it is not going to go away overnight. the numbers and the lines show quite the opposite. i think this platform in particular is an amazing one. the numbers speak for themselves. >> what is interesting is not how many users they are using, but what th

paul kedroskys from san diego and a former facebook executive, allison rosenthal is here with us in thetudio. it is worth more than $19 billion, but he doesn't know for sure if it's going to be around a year from now? really? >> it is hard to comment on the price because we just don't know at this point. it is growing at a million users a day. people are getting onto this service every day am a talking about things they're interested in and chatting with one another. that.is real value to more than anyone how difficult it is for an app like this to hit the mainstream and stay there. i had a guest last week who says he doesn't know what he's going to be using on his phone in five years. if that's the case, why is it worth it? >> it's interesting to look at what was happening when they started. in 2009, they were the first cross-platform over-the-top messenger to emerge and they own the exhaustion is relationships. u.s. areutside the growing like crazy and for the past four and a half or five years, they have building, building, building. it is not going to go away overnight. the numbers