then the meeting broke up, my family came in, my six week old grandson, allister was blessed by the hope. >> dickerson: when you -- you told another store row what the hope said to you about prayer. >> we left where the hope addressed all the people in the capital we came through my office, the hope went down to the firster from on my elevator i took the steps down to t first floor, in which we now call freedom foyer i was standing there with the pope, the cardinals and the entourage was all moving out to their vehicles and the pope takes his left arm grabs my left arm pulls me near him and, saying nice worse, i wouldn't repeat because it cause me to cry. then put his arm around me and pulled me right into him and said, please pray for me. well, you can imagine, i was a mess. who am i to ray for the snow but i did. >> dickerson: there is belief in the catholic church that the holy spirit can move us. did it after that visit to make this decision for you? >> it helped clear the picture. i never related one of these instances to the other. but by friday night it was obvious, it's time to d