but other thing is, i feel very strongly that we need new leadership at pg&e and that if judge allsop appoints receiver he will have somebody that will be accountable to h to make sure that his orders are carried ou right now simply telling pg&e over and over again comply with the law doesn't seem to be working. they have and record history of not complying, not trimming the and recently, of falsifying tens of thousands of pipeline inspection records. the call before ydig 811. there's no excuse for that. >> would support having pg&e become a public company? >> i thinkt's one of the options that we should look at. would i want to be careful about is that we don't end up in a situation where the denselypu ted areas get -- get covered and the expenses, rural areas, get left out and get uck with very high costs. we want to make sure that we preserve a system, even if it's public, where we can spread the ctnd the risk among a large number of customers. and not just have a two-tier system, good, cheap service in expensive and poor, service in the rural areas. >> what are some of the challen