it was a hard decision because the university had cited allston as a symbol of the future, of progress science. and i ultimately decided that the symbolism of what allston had become was very important, but the reality of the finances had to carry the day. >> susie: throughout the crisis, faust met regularly with michael porter. she even attended a workshop he holds for new c.e.o.s of multibillion dollar companies. >> she was just fascinated by learning about the role of c.e.o., and she did great. i think our-- c.e.o.s that were here from the private sector came away very impressed; i certainly was. >> susie: just as in corporate board rooms, women at the highest levels of power at harvard are newcomers. you know, looking at these portraits, you see harvard presidents, professors, deans-- a lot of men, hardly any women on that wall. >> well, harvard has been here for a very long time, starting in 1636. and it was not seen as suitable to have women educated in the same way as men, or certainly not playing leadership roles in the same way as men. but we had a dramatic departure from that