ally bank and p.r. keeps people in the know so doe's ally customers can talk to a real person any time of day or night learn more at ally bank dot com well as it turns out ally bank has among other things spent quite a bit of money lobbying against the creation of what is now the consumer financial protection bureau so it's no surprise that when planet money host adam davidson have the head of the c f p b elizabeth warren on for an interview that things got a little heated take a listen this crisis will not be over until the american family begins to recover this crisis does not exist and if you're in the right that's the no it is not my crisis that is america's crisis if people cannot pay their credit card bills if that you cannot pay their mortgages remote views on this issue. this of course just a snippet from the fifteen plus minute interview but we want to talk today with two journalists who allege this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to questionable practices by adam davidson and the planet money team and mark ames and yasha levine are the founders of the web site shame or shame on the hacks that abuse that media ethic