are you familiar with the statement of the former region six epa director al almaderez? he says it was the epa's goal -- or he wanted to crucify the oil and gas industry. do you see that as actually happening? >> you don't really want to lead me into that discussion, do you? >> i'm from texas. he was our epa guy. >> actually, i metal once. i only know what i have read in the papers. >> do you feel like the epa is targeting? do you get a feeling that they're targeting the oil and gas industry unfairly? >> well, i try to keep my eye on my own court and what we're doing. i do see permit delays. permit lags. >> i talked this morning about the rocket docket for regulations, historic regulations in air and so forth, compared to the snail doekt for getting permits done. >> i see i'm out of time. thank you very much, mr. chairman. thank you, panel. >> we're going to do just a couple minutes of questioning. to do follow-up on it. for the three state regulators i need some clarification. this is just a process question. new guidance has been released by epa dealing with the diesel