company great, do you have the guts, the will at that moment to sell the mills let's go back to almondon, why did pick dismotn. >> there is on thing about dogs, dogs can eat dogs. and so part way across the plateau. >> they had to kill half the dogs. so they could be fuel for the other dogs. those dogs had names. okay. but that is what -- that is what needed to be done to make it work, to accomplish the objective and get everybody back alive. i don't know about you, but that is sounds very difficult to do. and the more extreme. >> rose: especially my dog. >> yes. exactly. i am not saying i couldo this. but i mean, you know, if you look at the hard decions andre grove made or you look at even -- bill gates moving from building microsoft now to doing the foundation, is he worried about being liked or is he worried about wiping ou out maria? rose: well i hope he is worried about wiping out malaria. >> right. exactly. and so. >> rose: it isore important to save lives than be popular. >> our people are worried about accomplishing a plate. >> rose: on the other hand the quesonwe ought to beut