interrogation, witnesses alpirin maria khaimovna. everything, the jewish population of lagusk was gathered near the building of the former ravenkomat, including the building that brought me and my husband alperin nikolai borisovich and my three children to the building. about a thousand people of the jewish population were gathered near the building of the venkomat. our passports were taken away from all of us. after that, the jews were taken to ivan's hands to the place of extermination. the people were divided into groups. the first included women with infants and adolescents, the second included women middle-aged and older in the third, men and those people who could not walk on their own , sick old people, they were brought up in carts. moreover, my mother said that they were led there by a handful of machine gunners. and my great-grandmother was driving a tank in front. she wanted to, she says oh , she says where they are being taken, where they are being taken, they are probably being driven somewhere. we must say to collect so