that alterination is confusing. and it serves little purpose. and one needs to understand that both elements of pressure and of reward are going to have to operate rather continuously. i don't think we do that. on this last question, which is a very complex one about military engagement as civilians, when it's -- if you are talking about negotiations, then i think the answer is these are parallel tracks. you do both simultaneously. prime minister rabina fond of quoting on this one asked