we arejoined now we are joined now by alun davies we arejoined now by alun davies in oui’ we arejoineding. tell us about why you think this is a good idea? this is about strengthening and deepening our democracy. the americans got this right in the 18th century, no taxation without representation. 16 and 17—year—olds are able to go out to work and pay taxes, they should have the right to have a say in how those taxes are spent. we are starting this process of enabling younger people to take part in our democracy, to be full members of society, and to enable young people to have a say in how our government works. there is a question of responsibility, isn't there? 16 and 17—year—old is not allowed to buy a house and have a mortgage, they are not allowed to buy an alcoholic drink. if they are not allowed to do that, why is it assumed they are responsible enough to make a decision about the political future of this country? well, they pay taxes and they should be able to have a say in how those taxes are spent. it is a fundamental part of oui’ spent. it is a fundamental part of our democr