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da alvin bragg sparking anger for injuries this nurse suffered last week. alvin bragg charging the suspect with third-degree assault, despite law that prescribes felony charges on healthcare workers. that nurse says what good is the law if it doesn't have any teeth. we're trying to help people and the law was written to help us and the da should be protecting healthcare workers. all da alvin bragg had to do was follow the law for these type of incidentses. it makes attacks like this a crime. >> ashley: this happened to a healthcare worker, he will not change his stance, he made that clear. this happens all the time. my husband was a beat cop in the bronx, if suspects are hurt during a scuffle, they have to be treated at the hospital and first person you see is a nurse and so many stories of the suspect beating up on the nurses and nothing has changed. this is not something uncommon and it will keep happening until somebody like alvin bragg is out of office, he is not changing his office. >> todd: the office was too backed up to bring a felony case, maybe yo

in fact, let's take a look so far what alvin bragg has accomplished.dy held the trump organization accountable, minor fine, $1.6 million, when you're worth $10 billion if not more, right? then of course, you also have the allen weisselberg matter. we now have the attorney general, our unsinkable tish james, going to take a lot of money off -- out of the trump coffers. let's be real about that one. so he's being held accountable. a lot of people don't realize, for example, there was a case where they beat up the protesters in front. he paid on that one. now, we don't know how much because it's under gag. but at the end of the day, he is actually held accountable. it's the same myth that gets perpetuated. donald trump, he's untouchable. it's not true. he is touchable, and i do have faith in alvin bragg. i will say this as well. that i was very impressed with mark pomeranz and carrie dunn. after ten sessions with them, three additional when i was otisville, i was very impressed with cy vance's team, and the whole group of them. i'm equally impressed with

neil, what do you think is going on in alvin bragg's office? >> heaven knows. michael saying district attorney bragg was on the ball today, but coming into your show, i felt like no one here looks good. there are three basic characters. one is this district attorney br a agg who looks really timid. and some of it is not entirely his fault. prosecutor after prosecutor has flinched and wilted in the face of donald trump's attacks on them. and they melt under pressure. so bragg has been inherit hadding some of that. so some of that is not his fault. michael is saying it would be unfair to judge him. he needed time to study it. it seems that bragg did more saying i need some time. it seemed like he mostly closed the investigation and signalled hi wasn't going to indict. it feels like it was something more than just a bid for more time. that's why not just mark pomeranz, but dunn announced they were leaving so that's one problem. then with respect to pomeranz, the idea that you'd write a book while a case is ongoing, i find really troubling. it's certainly not someth

is there new evidence that alvin bragg's office has that you think might be able to move the needle evends a successful prosecution of donald trump? >> i don't want to tip off the other side into what it is that we sit and talk about. the only thing i can say is that there was a lot of similar information that i had already gone over with the carry done, cy vance team. so this is repetitive for me. that is not repetitive for them, and we have to give them the opportunity, within which, to review the information, and to secure their own case. because they are the ones that are going to be bringing the case. not mike and carrie does. though i have been very vocal and saying, i like mike pomerantz, believe that this case could've been brought one year ago. the question becomes why didn't they. i don't know, that would be something for cy vance to answer, why he didn't bring the case, it be something for alvin bragg to come forward and to say why. it's irrelevant at this point. right now, they are pursuing the case, there's already been people brought before the grand jury, and i, once again

but, alvin bragg is trying to circumvent that by adding additional testimony by witnesses who may havemation about the situation. >> let me really quickly play michael cohen testifying in 2019 about trump inflating his assets. >> to your knowledge, did the president or his company ever inflate assets or revenues? >> yes. >> to your knowledge, did the president ever provide inflated assets to an insurance company? >> yes. >> and was that done with the president's knowledge or direction? >> everything was done with the knowledge and at the direction of mr. trump. >> do you think we need to review his financial statements and his tax returns in order to compare them? >> yes. >> so charles, this is the one case that prompted two new york prosecutors to resign from alvin bragg's office because he didn't bring a case on this. do you think that there now is a case, and what do you make of the facthis case appears to be back? >> i think it's interesting, joy. everything has not come out yet and that's partially because the grand jury is a secret proceeding and we may not know what the addition

alvin bragg is operating at alvin bragg's pace, and while we may not agree with it, we may not appreciatend of the day he's either going to get the accolades or the jeers from people. >> do you have any insight whether you can share it or not i guess would be the second part of the question, but do you now understand why he dismissed the people working on this case when he first arrived? >> i prefer not to, again, comment on that. one thing i can say is that the team that's currently there that i'm meeting with they're really -- and i've said this before -- they're really knowledgeable and they have a great grasp on all of the facts surrounding this case. >> allen weisselberg is sort of this white whale, right? is there any indication there's been any movement on what allen weisselberg is willing to talk about? >> that again i don't know. we don't know talk about other aspects -- >> so you don't know when you're helping them where different pieces come from necessarily? >> of course i have an idea based upon questions being posed to me. but, again, out of really respect for the prosecutio

in fact, this week, alvin bragg fired up. >> i bring our cases when they are ready. took office, i did an exhaustive review of a matter put before me, i came to the same conclusion that multiple senior prosecutors in my office independently came to, and that was that mark pomerantz's case simply was not ready. i continue to be concerned that it could jeopardize or undermine our ongoing investigation. >> well, joining me now for his side of this story is former manhattan special assistant district attorney mark pomerantz, author of this book. welcome to "meet the press." >> thank you so much for having me. >> let me start with the criticism, because he's not the only one criticizing. here's some legal experts, barbara mcquade, a former u.s. attorney, writing a book about a pending investigation was really poor form. strikes me as totally improper. eliza orlins, this book could do irreparable damage to an ongoing investigation. you've heard this criticism. what say you? >> well, i think the criticism is unfounded, and i can tell you in a nutshell why. first, with respe

alvin bragg basically decided after looking at the case not to indict trump. we all know about these big newsworthy "60 minutes"-style interviews, well, he just did one last night. >> if you take the exact same conduct and make it not about donald trump and not about a former president of the united states, would the case have been indicted? it would have been indicted in a flat second. >> like that if it were just anybody else. that's his view as a line or lead prosecutor there but he's also the ex-employee who was overruled by the person actually with the authority to decide whether to indict in a flat second, minute, month or not at all and this is a tell-all book so you do have to look at secret like this with your eyes open on the evidence. is this an office dispute? is this power games or are there whatever the issues between this lawyer and his boss, are there other pieces of evidence that are relevant? that are important? that could still lead to other investigations or even indictments? you know, when we had d.a. bragg on here for a rare interview bec

as mark pomerantz tells the story ink his new book, alvin bragg, theoo new d.a. was not oy with that happening on his watch.pp at least not then. a new york d.a., a new one, alvin bragg says he just didn't think the case was ready to go ahead. mark pomerantz says he disagreed strongly with that assessment, he pled his proverbial case, he got very frustrated, i think it's fair to say, and he left the d.a.'s office, again to much fanfare. but now as we sit here tonight, two things have happened.re number one, the new york d.a. alvin bragg has gone ahead with what appears to be a criminal grand jury presentation about donald trump. themp grand jury is hearing witnesses and the presentation of evidence presumably toward a potential indictment of trump that started last week and, second thing, mark pomerantz just tonight is publishing this book about his experience investigating trump, his understanding ofp, the evidence against trump and his account of the wrangling among prosecutors and investigators about what they should do about trump's alleged criminal behavior.

at >> repr:orte i jnanuary of 2022, alvin bragg, who camigpaned on a prom tiseo hold powerful new rkersae, was sworn in as the new mantthaan district torney. >> i, ainlvna leord bragg jr. >> rteeporr: accor tdingo pomerantz, texhe nton mth opstped hism tea from skieeng an indictmentf omr. trump. >> what did het wan you to ?do slow do?wn d he ever say atth? >> he ddi not say to slow down. never , saidi n'dot want to be rushed. thsere'ot n ehnoug meti.i need more time to study the facts. just, ok.ay you need a desicion. u'yoll get a decionsi. an the decision was, no. yo nu'reotoi gng forward. >> rteeporr: pomerantznd a the fiofce's gen ceralouelns carey nndue ptlrompy siregn.ed bragg reportedly had conce rns about the sentrgth of the case. >> we decided not tori bng any h arsge at that time, soha tte w cocould ntuein ournv iesgatition hwhic is wha wte're doing. >> reporter: in decbeemr d.a. agg won aax t fraud case agnsait the trump gaornization. heid dn't charge the former idpresent. but pomanertz said theas ce he developed against dd onaltrpum sh souldtill be launched. >> i know you hav

. >> i was talking about alvin bragg. >> oh, okay. >> we interviewed alvin bragg just a couple of weeksgo and here's what he had to say. watch. >> is that correct that you are looking to jump-start that criminal inquiry? >> well, so, first, i want to take issue with the word "jump-start." >> it's "the times'" word, not ours. >> i understand. we have been continuously working with rigor throughout the year and you're going to be maybe displeased with the answer, because i'm not going to -- we have not confirmed or denied -- as you said, that's "the times'" reporting. we're working on a number of pieces and perspectives with this. i guess that this is one chapter, an important chapter. but there are a lot of, you know, tentacles, if you will. we're following the facts where they go. >> you said in, to the "new york times," and also, in other interviews, i've heard you saying that this was just a chapter and people shouldn't read ahead in the book. i'm wondering what that means? because that sort of looks like people are saying, like you're saying to people, stay tuned, there's something o

two of the meetings, to the best of our knowledge occurred under alvin bragg. ck and forth that's occurred over the bragg. alvin bragg believed the types of charges that mark pomeranz and his team proposed were not, in fact, charges he wanted or at least a road he wanted to go down with respect to a potential indictment. so it makes sense if he didn't want to go down that path that perhaps he needs to bring cohen back if he wants to go down different paths, and i think legal experts have keyed in on that, saying, he obviously wants to have a different tactic here if you want to go down a different road, you have to bring michael cohen back in, if they're going to focus in on part to the payments to stormy daniel, which cohen pleaded guilty to, and admitted the payments went through him. i think that's something we need to keep in mind. the second thing is part and parcel of that, whether or not you want to put michael cohen on the stand is also another concern given his past conviction and guilty plea for lying to congress. >> good point, tom winter. thank you v

trump." >> for his part, district attorney alvin bragg is pushing back aggressively. he released a statement about mark pomerantz's book. pomerantz's book is called "people versus donald trump." about that, bragg says that the case against trump, quote, wasn't ready for takeoff, end quote. but what pomerantz says he found evidence of is similar to what cohen testified to. and pomerantz insists he assembled the goods. here's what he has to say to his ex-boss. >> this was a righteous case. you should bring it. it's important. and if you made the wrong decision, make a better decision. >> a veteran investigator and prosecutor laying out for the public the criminal case he built against donald trump is where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends. new york time investigative reporter and msnbc contributor susanne craig is back. we rely on her because she has reported extensively on the finances and taxes of donald trump since 2016 and understands them going way back farther than that. also joining us, form deputy assistant attorney general, former u

first and foremost, alvin bragg only came in in january. three times, the first three times i was before the district attorney in new york, the old da under cyrus vance, i was still incarcerated at otisville. they came to visit me there. then ten times when i was out, three times now with the alvin bragg team. >> did they ask you different questions? >> some are different, some of the same. most are relatively the same. what they have been doing with me now is really digging down deep into the minutiae. >> hush money payments? >> first of all, i will tell you what we were talking about because i agree not to, but there is more just hush money that we talk about. but what we have done is, we are digging down into the minutiae. think of it like a book. it's not an overview of the book anymore. that was the first meeting. the second one is, let's say, the chapter. today's meeting was the paragraph. the next one, which is next week -- >> you have another meeting? >> i do. >> 17th? meaning >> that one will be on the line. so my belief is that in

when alvin bragg walked away, it appeared apparent they weren't pursuing this criminally. where weisselberg was convicted and the trump organization was convicted. when you put a case together for trial you dig through every piece of paper and it could be they found stronger evidence that made them lead to this case as a criminal charge. and so i don't know how optimistic i would be about whether allen weisselberg is going to cooperate against donald trump. in that tax case he agreed to cooperate against the trump organization, by he said he didn't have any information against donald trump himself. maybe he did. maybe he didn't. but it's hard to imagine that he was willing to go to rikers island for five months and held back something he knew about donald trump and yet would be willing to change his mind now. but nonetheless, i suppose once you have a taste of rikers island and the thought for staying longer than five months, maybe that is more persuasive than any words could be. >> i am not making any commentary about mr. weisselberger, but watching your family watch you

he said he would fire alvin bragg first thing.a political quest, it's a moral plea. people all across the name of all political persuasions are crying out for justice and dignity for their lives. and when you look at what a happened there to that poor young lady, look at the police officer thats was recently killed by a man who had 39 priors, go down to orlando where we had a 9-year-old killed by someone with a wrap list longer than this desk. we're not dealing with criminality with the seriousness it deserves. when he elevate the needs of the security over the safety and security of the common man bad things happen. we're seeing it all over the place. p she should be fired. a message as has to be sent. people are fed up and we're not going to take it anymore. maria: we'll take a blake. when we come back the january pce index is out in 90 minutes' time. the owner of magnolia bakery, an entrepreneur, talks about inflation's impact on business and his business right now. stay with us for that. l. ♪ lean on me when you're not strong.

alvin bragg, told cnn, about those accusations.eviewing all of the evidence from mr. pomerantz's investigation i came to the same conclusion as several senior prosecutors involved in the case, and also those i brought on. more work was needed. put another way, mr. pomerantz's plane wasn't ready for takeoff. here to discuss this is legal analyst and former federal prosecutor elliott williams. this is, obviously, a person who you selling a book, but on the substance of the allegations here, is there a difference of opinion here, just two prosecutors differing on how to proceed? or is pomerantz right that trump got special consideration because he's a former president? >> i think you touched right on it saying there's a difference of opinion. you see this all the time in workplaces around the country but prosecutor's offices around the country. let's be clear, mark pomerantz in this book makes a compelling case for charging former president trump with a crime. there's a few problems that get glossed over, frankly, in the 60 minutes in

does that mean that when alvin bragg is ready we should expect to hear racketeering? >> my best guess. is no. that is another problem. i think it is already been set up to undermine, by all accounts, he's going after this sort of zombie case. the one really zeroing in on stormy daniels. hush money. now to be fair to bragg, pomerantz broach this in the office but it was shot down by the time that he left. the racketeering theory was already off the table and it can be hard to make a case based on it. but still, there is the possibility that bragg when's and it makes him a snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. because you have this critique out there saying, you could've done racketeering instead of this small potatoes case. it is a rough hand that he has just been dealt. >> as long as we're talking victory, let's talk about the victory lap that the president was running today. this blockbuster jobs report. it's easy to forget when we're dealing with high prices, and we both know that a lot of things cost a lot of money. but when you consider the shortages, the supply

and, cy vance left the office and love this investigation essentially and alvin bragg's hand. to indict trump. it's a criminal investigation, the hurdle they had in and criminalist occasions is to prove that the tarp it's knew that they were committing a crime and -- it's felt intent. part of the movement through factually prosecutors in the office felt that they didn't have enough evidence to bring that case. mark pomerantz and those in his side of the aisle believe they. did i think there was a good faithful belief on both sides that they should do it, and should into. it ultimately, those things are sort of subjective based on the quality of the evidence and the ability to win a. case so i don't think that it is just a matter of alvin bragg turning his back on a prosecutable case. but i also think pomerantz has some legitimate criticism about how aggressive the office was ultimately willing to be. but it's not that black and white, it's not that cut, enjoy it's a tough thing. i think it's interesting now that brags off seems to have rekindled its investigation. really, i th

that's something that if you are alvin bragg, you have to be prepared for because it's something that charged in the manhattan office. >> and if it doesn't work in the pretrial stage, would it survive as an appeal issue for donald trump's lawyers with any conviction? using that book is a basis of an appeal? >> all the way of. absolutely, at the trial level and all the way through to the appellate level. having a book written in the middle of the investigation causes all sorts of problems. that's one of the many reasons that people are saying about it. >> and a book by somebody that signed a confidentiality agreements who work there, saying specifically that this kind of thing was not happen. so much i want to say about. it enjoys, man thank you so much for joining us tonight. we always appreciate it. >> you welcome. >> coming up, if you are not city planning an attack on people and the government, there's a good chance is one of the people who were plotting with is an fbi informant. that's why two knots is planning to attack baltimore power plants were arrested. that's next. next. ♪ s

>> i'm going with manhandle manhattan district attorney alvin bragg who i have nothing to agree withand jury to investigate the stormy daniels hush money case against donald trump, and that really seems to have irked donald trump, because he was tweeting or true social thing about it. i think it was the right move, and he waited until the time was right, so alvin bragg. >> all right, dean, who is your winner this week? >> i got the winner. it's a chinese spy balloon. everybody is talking about. it >> [laughter] >> it's getting more press than donald trump. don trump might launch his own spy balloon which of course is made in china just like his ties and suits. everyone wants to shut it down and save. it spy balloon winner. >> i love, it's by balloon. my winner is the president of united states with an economy that is not just steady but expanding, jobs being created, heading into his state of the union next week. the president is showing the kind of strength that i think the country at the end of the day really want to see a leader possess. so there it is. susan del percio and dean o

>> it doesn't seem like alvin bragg is that impressed with him at all.pushed back on some very important, basic things, from what we understand, in the book. for example, the two of them had big arguments about the quality of michael cohen as a witness and i have to say, even though he has a ton of experience, alan bragg seemed to be right to me. allen bragg said, i don't want to put michael cohen on as a witness. at least he's not the star witness. because the guy is a liar and he will be a problem. anybody who's ever tried a case knows, you could just go to school on michael cohen for hours an hours about -- and it will hurt the case. so, it seems to me that on some level, he validates with this book, oddly, the ability for brag to do an evaluation. i do feel like everybody is frustrated with what is happened with trump, which he seems to always get away with it. after, all in this case, michael cohen went to jail. he's not the one who had the affair or wrote the check or violated the business practices or had the campaign. so, it is frustrating. i get

but alvin bragg is not someone who was interested in victims. he's not worried about whether or not this nurse who was attacked violently in hospital is going to do well. he's only concerned about the criminal. but i want to talk about . because, i mean, i spent 30 years as a prosecutor. >> you dealt with four year old girls who've been, and i've dealt with seventy eight year old women who've been. every is different. and we can just sit here and say, isn't it great? she was strong and she was tough. but not all women are. and whether they're immobilized by fear or the circum stance is the most important thing that a woman needs to understand is that she has to she has to protect herself in the environment. so as i tell young women, as i did for many years, you go in an elevator, a guy gets in the elevator. if your gut tells you something, get the out of the elevator and the same with, you know, this woman was kind enough to open the door for him. he didn't get in on his site, but she had seen him in the gym. before. so she opened the door. we d

you have alvin bragg, kathy hochul, adams, everyone has to get on the same page. >> ashley: now to pretty wild security footage from toronto, canada, capturing two robbers crashing a stolen car into a mall. you can see the audi outside heading toward the entrance before squaring up and am raing the glass doors. the thieves take a joyride through the first floor before robbing an electronics store. they are still on the loose, no one was hurt. >> todd: you can see the license plate on the car, these criminals do not care about consequences. >> ashley: zero care. d.e.a. official with urgent warning on how drug cartels infiltrated america and are greatest drug threats in u.s. history. >> these ruthless criminal organizations have associates, facilitators and brokers in all 50 states and more than 40 countries around the world. >> ashley: talking to border state congressman about it. >> todd: and wyoming helping joe biden on electric vehicles after the white house demanded charging stations be put in every 50 miles. wyoming lawmaker explains why it will hurt the state. don't go anywhere. heav

you have alvin bragg, kathy hochul, adams, everyone has to get on the same page and make it repeat offendersnd education, but these are the same repeat offenders over and over doing the crimes. let the judges judge. this is what they spent their entire lives studying the law, they should be allowed to get rid of politics and let the judges judge. >> ashley: i want to play this sound bite, this suspect is bragging he would be out of jail in 24 hours, listen. >> in 24 hours, i'll be out on bail. >> ashley: that was one of the suspects, but another suspect like a duo type situation, he's going to be out soon on $75,000 bond on house arrest. does that really matter? does that worry you? they already had a criminal record, it doesn't matter to them house arrest or not. >> no, ashley, it is very concerning, you have career criminals listening and watching this show right now and being like, i can get away with this. i have a 24-hour stay in hotel nypd, get a meal and get back out and do the same crime over and over. it is fearful for citizens, business owners and cops themselves. >> todd: as the c

i mean of you district attorneys alvin bragg others refusing to move the law local elections coming upust in new york but across the country soros funded da's with far-left policies want to get into office they are not there idealist state capitals like new york policies like cashless bail enacted other states to emulate follow pass laws there, ends up eroding public safety the numbness hardest part i want outrage in action. >> what are you going to do nowly there is speculation you will run for senate tell us about that your plans. >>, a gillibrand started quite rumor frustrated why my name keeps getting mentioned about running against her my best advice to her stop talking about me every time she does it more people talking about how might be clash for senate no new york for 2024, do i believe there may be reentry in government some point in the future but no decision updates at this point, i do enjoy serving i had reserve duty past weekend finishing up my 2042 year in may. i believe in public service leaving this place better than you found it we will see what is in ex. >> you've be

did alvin bragg take the time to understand the evidence you had marshalled?red to spend the time. indeed, at one point he said we can meet every day if you think that's appropriate. but honestly, it's very hard to communicate what happened in these financial statements. you know, the financial statements spanned years. there were dozens of assets. the techniques that were used to overvalue those assets differ from asset to asset, year to year. so it was mine bogglingly complicated to lay all of that evidence out, and to understand it. and that was really the guts of the case. if you didn't understand what happened with the financial statements, it's hard to assess how intentional this conduct was and who was responsible for it. when the attorney general of the state of new york brought a complaint, it took over 200 pages to lay out the evidence. if we had gone to trial, it would take a prosecution case of several months to lay out the evidence. so as i reflected on what happened, i have wondered to myself whether the incoming team understood the complexities

. >> lawrence: they say it is not fair, they won't say, for example, eric adams, alvin bragg, knock it off, you are putting citizens at risk, why won't they do that? >> jessica: some of them have and we talked about recall of boudine. people being insulated by donors and other people in the party owe them something or they supported them in the past versus what voters want. no one who votes in new york think everything is fantastic and they know there is height knowed awareness of what is possible in the subway or drug store. >> they are seeking safety first. >> greg: it's all words, no action, you acknowledge it, never any solution. >> i'm told we got to roll. up next, migrants who fled new york city for canada are coming back because it is too cold. the day you get your clearchoice dental implants makes every day... a "let's dig in" day... mm. ...a "chow down" day... a "take a big bite" day... a "perfectly delicious" day... - mm. [ chuckles ] - ...a "love my new teeth" day. because your clearchoice day is the day everything is back on the menu. a clearchoice day changes every day. sc

but alvin bragg is not interested in victims and not worried about whether those are attacked violently. he is only concerned about the criminal. but i want to talk about rape because i spent 30 years as a prosecutor. i have dealt with 4-year-old girls who have been rapes but every is different. and we can sit here and say she was great, strong and tough. but not all women are. and whether localized by fear or the circumstances, there are important things that a woman needs to understand is she has to protect herself and the environment. so, as i tell young women as i did for many years, you go on an elevator and a guy comes on the elevator and if he does something get the hell out of the elevator. and the same thing, this woman was kind enough to open the door for him. she had seen him in the gym before so she opened the door. we don't need to be that person anymore. there was too much danger. women need to understand, it's not how they look. it's not how they are. they will be rape it's more about control and little to do with sex. in the end i worry women think, they will not believe

among them georgia gaskon in los angeles, alvin bragg in new york and kim fox in chicago all accusedver massive crime spikes in their jurisdictions. that report found right now the u.s. has at least 75 soros linked prosecutors in office and they represent 20% or one in every five americans. in washington, grady trimble fox news. aishah: okay, grady, for more on this story and the attorney general's efforts to remove kim gardner we are joined by andrew stotman. this story makes me so man. it's so tragic, the young girl has a whole life ahead of her, volleyball star and now it's turned upside down because her justice system fails her. there's plenty of outrage to go around but will this outrage be enough to remove this da? >> well, i certainly hope so and there's a process for the attorney general, the state of missouri to have this incompetent prosecutor removed and i hope it's a shot across the bow, warning to other prosecutors, look, you cannot replace the will of the people with your own ideology, your own democratic ideology because the result is a disaster and, look, we have seen

chesa bodine is out, and working on philadelphia, alvin bragg is a flat-out embarrassment, he paid off his loans too quick, and st. louis kids are losing their livelihoods, they are dying on the streets, and she is indifferent about it. my hope is she gets justice and it's gone. no coincidence that ron desantis yeah, he's got a book in a week, but says i'm going to go to blue states into cities run by these d.a.s and let them know what it's like to have a law enforcement that is actually respected by the community, he has in most counties in florida. he went to philadelphia, he went to new york, he's going to chicago, and he's going to go there to point out that it is about time we get behind law enforcement and respect the people as much as they do the criminals. my hope is they find a way, i don't know the nuances of st. louis law, they find a way to get her out and send a message unless you put somebody in democratic republican that is simply going to be aggressive against criminals, we have to turn the page or else the cities will never turn around. >> john: what andrew bailey said

if you go to the upper west side, the most liberal place in manhattan you won't find a fan of alvin braggturning. it happened in philadelphia as well. a very liberal d.a. san francisco. the country is ripe for that kind of conversation. the question will be how can he balance that kind of stance, generally palatable to everybody with other things that are more extreme. pictures of classrooms in florida where teachers have books removed. >> dana: call for three. mayor adams welcoming the governor yesterday saying welcome to new york city. a place where we don't ban books, discriminate against lgbtq plus neighbors use asylum seekers as props or let the government stand between woman and healthcare. we're happy to teach you values while you're here. sharp talk from the mayor who recently has been trying to get the biden administration to change stance on the southern border because of the migrant crisis. he is -- >> it is interesting. i think that desantis drew him in here a little bit. the mayor here in new york city ran on a criminal justice reform platform. it was his main issue. a lot of

among them, george gascon in los angeles, alvin bragg in new york, and kim foxx in chicago.letting criminals off easy and presiding over massive crime spikes in their jurisdictions. that report found right now the u.s. has at least 75 soros linked prosecutors in office. they represent 20% or one in every five americans bret? >> bret: gaede, thank you. tonight we are also getting a look of police body cam images of arrest of a suspect accused of killing three people in florida. one of those people was a tv reporter covering the story. warning some of these images are disturbing. correspondent phil keating has details from miami this evening. >> get on your face. get on your [bleep] face. >> orange county sheriff's deputies release this body video showing the takedown of a mass murder suspect after he allegedly shot five people killing three and what appears to have been a random rampage according to the suspect known gang member gun. were committed when he was a juvenile which the state attorney explained is why he was free on the streets. >> this only adult offense was a pos

so, i think it is safe to assume that alvin bragg, the manhattan da, is aware of this deposition. the reporting currently is that he is looking at charges related to stormy daniels and hush money payments. but of course, as we are all aware, he does have some allegations still sitting in his office that relate to the conduct of the trump organization. so, there is some possibility that this could raise new issues in manhattan as well. >> carlos, maybe i'm naive. maybe i'm a fool. how does this fly in conservative circles? he attacked people for years. we showed just a few times those who plead the fifth -- he said, what are you hiding, you must be guilty. he did it 400 times and said, if he didn't, he would be a fool to do so. >> well, stephanie, this is going to give ammo to those republicans that are getting ready to challenge donald trump for the nomination in 2024. they are going to use this to say, look, maybe like donald trump, maybe you like some of his policies. but he has too much baggage. he is taking water from all sides. he cannot beat -- whether it is joe biden or ano

. >> former donald trump's fixer and attorney michael cohen says he met with manhattan district alvin braggt is just one criminal investigation that may be closing in on donald trump, the criminal investigation for donald trump on voter fraud appears headed for an indictment by the district attorney. and, special federal prosecutor jack smith is investigating johnson's interference leading up to and on january six as well as donald trump's possible criminal possession of government documents after he left office. so far, donald trump's only defense is that he seems to be mounting to any of these criminal investigations is to run for president. donald trump announced he was running for president on november 15th. so, that is eight months sooner than he announced in 2015, it was, his announcement that he was running for president that actually provoked merrick garland to appoint a special prosecutor. donald trump seems to be betting that it will be much more difficult for prosecutors to decide to charge him with crimes if they were perceived by republicans as trying to block donald trump's pr

alvin bragg because bragg would not authorize him to move forward with an indictment of the presidentight and said anyone other than donald trump could have been indicted. take a listen. >> if you take the exact same conduct and make it not about donald trump and not about a former president of the united states, would the case have been indicted? it could have been indict in the a flat second. >> so what ties donald trump directly to this? couldn't he say, my accountant said it's worth this, i signed it. >> there were many bits and pieces of evidence on which we could rely in making that case. >> that view was not shared by everyone on the prosecution team. a couple of attorneys resigned from the team and some career prosecutors there, sources toll me last year, said they didn't think they had enough evidence to prove that the former president had criminal intent. some of these bits and pieces of evidence that pomeranz is talking about did eventually become public in the negotiation attorney general civil investigation, and she filed that cut all over the accuracy of his financial st

s office, currently led by alvin bragg and previously by cy vance.l assignment to build evidence that might lead to indicting trump. >> he is a big deal veteran new york lawyer. his name is mark pomer answer. >> mr. pomerantz who has prosecuted and defended organized crime cases. >> veteran prosecutor -- >> special assistant district attorney, pomerantz. >> he was the former new york prosecutor investigating donald trump. >> pomer rants is known as a heavy hitter. a reputation he refers to, the charges never came. he did build a case against trump, but it unravelled about a year ago as the new d.a. reversed what might have been a path towards indicting donald trump. he resigned in protest firing off a now public letter. he has by definition rare insights into the largely secret operations of that probe. he's also faced criticism, i should say for the way he's gone public. the new book goes further towards making the argument that he could not get hiss his boss to approve at the time. the title is the name of a case the d.a. has not filed yet. mr. pom

coming in, alvin bragg. he wasn't so hot on that case -- the evidence that the prosecution team had put together. he wasn't willing to move forward with any charges against the former president in connection with the business records. we did see the new york attorney general's office bring a civil case related to that same conduct. over the past year, as these prosecutors were continuing to needle away at this issue, they've returned to the focus of hush money payments and are exploring whether they have more evidence, a new legal theory or some other way they're looking the approach this now. >> kara scannell, grufl fateful the reporting. elie, in your book you talk about the stormy daniels saga. michael cohen turns over his phone. he has his own history now you're bringing in the bookkeeper, the guy who knows where the money goes. what's the significance? >> the manhattan d.a., a state-level prosecutor is essentially recreating the investigation that the feds, my former office, did three years ago which i

the first time under the current district attorney alvin bragg, a real sign that this is picking up.so much. let's talk about trump's legal problems. he has a brand new book out this week called "untouchable: how powerful people get away with it." congratulations on the book, i know the last one was a best seller. wishing nothing but the best for this one. what do you make of the manhattan d.a. taking up this alleged hush money scheme again after it looked like they had dropped it, now they're bringing it up. do you think this will go anywhere? and is this trump executive a credible wit snns. >> so, what's remarkable to me, jake, is that two years ago right now, the federal prosecutors across the street, my former office, the southern district of new york, was considering this same question. donald trump was getting ready to leave the presidency and they were considering, do we now charge him on this hush money scheme? i have the reporting in this book of exactly what happened behind closed doors. there was some contentious, high stakes, heated debate within the southern district of

. >> this investigation that was to be brought by alvin bragg's office previously -- junior, is the mosts livelihood, his business, et cetera. this is because it's the easiest to prove. the checks of the checks, we know a lot. there are recordings, which have been released. he is not in the same position where he can deny, or alive, the way that he will and some of the other matters. >> do you agree? is this the most detrimental investigation trump basis? >> i don't know if it's the most detrimental, but it's certainly the most straightforward. one, where lawyers like me, as well as lawyers like michael cohen, can connect the dots pretty easily. let's put aside cohen's own personal involvement here. donald trump was very careful when he was committing a number of the acts that people like me would say are criminal, right? he doesn't use email, he doesn't use tax, but the hush money scheme as one where his fingerprints are definitely more palpable, and evident than they are in a number of other things that he did. so, i think cohen is right about that. on the other hands, as someone who b

>> well, katy, it appears that alvin bragg and the manhattan district attorney's office has resuscitated criminal investigations into donald trump related to the stormy daniels hush money, and insurance fraud. the key witness in that case, the one telling us publicly he's ready to testify is michael cohen. he entered a guilty plea and was sentenced to three years for criminal activity including the payment of hush money to stormy daniels and so he no doubt would be a key witness in this case. if you're a prosecutor, you don't want to build your entire case around michael cohen because he's a convicted perjurer. it's also good to corroborate with live testimony. allen weisselberg likely has that information. i can understand why prosecutors might want to explore his cooperation. >> you would imagine they put quite a bit of pressure on him in the fraud trial for -- against the trump organization. how much more pressure can they put on him realistically to get him to say something different? he's already said he has no information against donald trump. >> yeah, i don't know. it may be that

but he never directly implicated donald trump in the company's tax fraud scheme so why is alvin braggt weisselberg to flip now when it obviously hasn't worked before? >> because they need his testimony to make their case,, they have documents, and they have michael cohen, and the two together really don't add up to a very secure prosecution. weisselberg is really the person who can be their shepherd through the documents, and have michael cohen support his testimony, or vice versa. without him, it really is a much more tenuous case. hence the offer. >> but michael, what about the fact that we have michael cohen with tapes of donald trump, and weisselberg in person, in trump's office, talking about making these payments to stormy daniels. you don't think that would be enough? there is that old saying that you and i are very familiar with us all former prosecutors, that a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich. >> right, and it might if you had the wrong prosecutor presenting the evidence. but if you have a witness like colin, who has pled guilty to perjury essentially, and you have doc

the thing that would go to a grand jury and wonder if there were charges brought by manhattan da alvin braggat would make the maga base rally behind donald trump as an unfair victim as a new york producer? >> you couldn't have said it better, howie, it's a perfect example of the dog pile if you will. people feel like the hits keep on coming and can't lay a real glove on donald trump. remember this as well and i think gayle pointed this out very jointly, the walls are closing in and, look, we know you get can indict a ham sandwich and doesn't necessarily mean that this is going to amount to a mole hill or mountain. i don't see where this goes or why they'd pursue this to me as curious. >> this is after $40 million of taxpayer money that was spent trying to find ever -- yes, that showed no obstruction or collusion. howard: let me jump in here because nikki haley in about ten days will become the first declared challenger to tram and trump posted links to stories that she's a warmonger and neocon nikki and promised not to run against him after the election. what kind of media reception her anno