to alvin bragg in this place.independent of whether the trial is broadcast or not, how does the system deal with this? normally if you are a normal defendant. >> and you do this kind of stuff, the judge will put you in the slammer immediately. the problem here is, all of these judges are afraid to do anything with donald trump and put him in, to incarcerate him until such time as a jury of his peers finds him guilty. that is a big issue. >> that would be the normal. thing >> i also think the part of the issue is the toothpaste is already out of the two. you've allowed so much to take place that at this point it's very difficult to corral the different tentacles that donald trump and his acolytes have placed in terms of shaping the public narrative around the criminal justice system and those at the helm of it. i do think at some point we are going to see a judge, whether here in new york, or fulton county, or in d. c., play some level of limitation on what donald trump can and cannot say. i think it will be in the

alvin bragg -- apparently has indicated that he would agree to jack smith's case going first.makes a lot of sense. i think prosecutors need to work with each other, as courts need to work with each other, particularly when we have overlapping, multiple judicial schedules that need to be managed. i think ms. willis -- my expectation is because her case is indicted -- i think it will go last. but i think the question is, is da alvin bragg going to give prosecutors mid the opportunity to proceed forward? will he be okay with that? my senses, he will. because my sense is that da alvin bragg recognizes that, though he has great confidence in his case, that the federal case really is the most important case in the country right now that needs to be managed with as little outside distraction as can be achieved. >> yeah. i would go so far as to say one of the most important cases of my lifetime. former manhattan da cy vance. i am so deeply appreciative of your time and thoughts tonight, sir. thank you so much for spending some time with me on this friday night. >> thank, you alex. gre

do you have news from alvin bragg, from d.c. they have something they want? you have prosecutors and some point in time, you would believe there has to be orchestration between the people to be able to set the parameter before the judges get involved. >> i was thinking the same thing, you have four indictments and it is giving me a headache and i am not named in the indictment and you are not either, it is oergsz organization of it all. you have 19 people and we know there is circus every time there is an indictment with trump showing up. you have 19 people, heavy hitter names like rudy giuliani, will we cover that for the next two weeks until next friday, until the 24th, week from this friday, it will be a mad house in fulton county each time someone will show up, will we have a live cam and they are expected to get a trial that is somewhat fair? it will be highly publicized before it starts. >> on the 23rd, there is gop debate on fox news channel and we'll see if the former president wants to show up for that and air his grievances. let's bring in julian ep

i think fanni willis's charges are stronger than alvin bragg's. alvin bragg is pulling something that happened seven years ago and trying to escape the expired statutes of limitations by saying it is bootstrapped in by bookkeeping. i do think fanni willis is charging -- the only important prosecutions are january 6. i find the brag hush-money payments to be distractions and undermine the importance of january 6. if we are going to spend prosecutorial resources as a nation and crossed the rubicon, this year we have charged a former president with any crime, it ought to be trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power despite the many problems these prosecutors -- the prosecutions have. emily: thank you for this helpful overview. we will not turn to audience questions. if you have a question, enter it in the committee function at the bottom of your screen. we will go to the first question. is it possible the judge could release the indictment before trial based on that the facts do not satisfy the requirements of the georgia rico statute? john y: i

he has gone after he's mentioned alvin bragg.e has gone after judges, prosecutors, and even mike pence going after witnesses. in the context when you have somebody who is not only saying specific things about all of these people but doing it in a way where some of the supporters -- let's not forget, somebody who attacked the fbi field offices in cincinnati. the explosive devices and send it to what we're viewed as opponents of trump. someone who took it into his own hands after seeing trump talk about it and track down brock obama's home in washington, d.c.. there are a fringe elements of his followers who are ready to listen to the statements and see them as a call to violent action. that is the issue here. >> you have been targeted by the former president directly. we've obviously seen, as we've seen the targets being jack smith and alvin bragg, fulton county d.a. fani willis as well with an impending indictment coming out of that. how do you navigate that? >> it is certainly difficult. look, there is a direct correlation from

look at alvin bragg, he posted a picture of himself holding a baseball hat -- baseball bat, next to alvin bragg's head. and then he claims, oh, it was not a threat. i was just advertising for american made baseball bats. nobody believes that. we've seen the tweet that he did the day after he was released from custody in the most recent indictment, the chan six indictment, all come after you if you come after me, whatever that phrase was. these are the dog whistle calls to his followers. they know what he's asking for, they know their threats. they're all laughing and everybody's face, we can't stop him. the people like this extreme person who got into the confrontation with the fbi today, they're hearing the message from donald trump. it's scary, it's terrifying, it has to stop. hopefully, judge chutkan will put a stop to it at this hearing this week. >> what's your campaign on this campaign memo obtained by the new york times? kenneth chesebro, an attorney, putting together this fake electors plot. he voices skepticism himself that this is legally viable. as a political reporter, it tell

alvin bragg called him a political hack linked to george soros and then in gruesome detail it described a plan to assassinate him in a parking garage. he targeted attorney general letitia james and california governor gavin newsom. joining me now is frank figliuzzi, former assistant director for counter intelligence and msnbc national security analyst. frank, thanks so much for being here. i first i want to get your thoughts. let's first talk about the mention of soros in here. you saw this a lot in right-wing conspiracy circles. to state the obvious, can you talk about the linkage between what's happening there and how that seating, the most violent corners of the universe and folks like apparently this alleged would-be assassin? >> sure, if you think you've seen this before it's because youfbl. and it's a common theme this concept that someone is controlling the globe, controlling elections and politics, and it's all bad. they're vile. they're subhuman, and it's also something called stochastic terrorism, which is this concept that some leader figure is calling out people as less than

fani willis, if, they will defer their schedule. >> alvin bragg has said.hat will be up to the judge. but we know the judge will probably do so as well. >> so you've got all prosecutors office is saying hey, you guys prioritize your trial. and you think smith wants this before documents? >> no doubt. and the number one aspect of this indictment, to me, the caption. usa versus donald trump. seven defendants here, seven times the challenges. this one is built for speed. >> no classified documents issues. a lot of witnesses, but it's going to be, i wouldn't say straightforward, but you don't have all of those issues with classified documents. >> and not as much pre trial. >> exactly. >> so you see the reason it's built for speed because it one defendant, no classified issues. on the other hand -- >> d. c. could judge. >> that is where we -- >> unless -- the gets changed. >> it's a lawyer saying he wants to move the trial. the constitution of the united states, if i'm not mistaken, i think it's the sixth amendment rights is that you have you're entitled to a tr

one more point, the fact that we're at a point it's a decision of if alvin bragg's case goes first, inan or jack smith's case in washington, d.c., wasn't that the first question everyone raised with alvin bragg of why should his case go first? now, it's not going to go first. judge glenda hatchett, thank you so much. >> good to see you. >> there's multiple counties, as well, everyone, under evacuation orders tonight. look at the screen. you have thousands of national guard members deployed. a brand-new forecast with the storm on florida. it takes place right after this. every business deserves a great deal. that's why comcast business is launching the mobile made free event. with our business internet, new and existing customers can get one year of unlimited mobile for free. it's our best internet. powered by the next generation 10g network and with 99.9% reliability. plus one line of free mobile for an entire year. it's the mobile made free event-happening now. get started for just $49.99 a month. plus, ask how to get one free line of unlimited mobile. comcast business, powering possi

alvin bragg said i have a march 2024 trial date.hat's ahead of judge cannon and says if the interests of justice require, i'm willing to give that up, so i think jack smith is going to take him up on it. i think judge tanya chechkin as dealt with these fights over documents. they're going to say, fine, let's go. there is no reason this simple streamlined case can't go in that march 2024 time frame go fast. that's what smith wants. he said speedy trial. >> march, as i recall, is a very busy time in the electoral calendar. we'll see you, norm. you remind me all the times you predicted me correctly. i won't say you're wrong. we'll see where it goes. norm eisen, thanks so much. alayna treene, thanks for your time. >>> congresswoman zoe lofgren, thanks for taking time this afternoon. >> sure. >> you, of course, were on the january 6th select committee. it's been eight months since that panel finished its own investigation and sent criminal referrals to the justice department. in your view did the special counsel take too long to act afte

allegedly making threats against other officials be up among them, manhattan district attorney alvin braggetitia james, and attorney general merrick garland. all of them overseeing criminal or civil proceedings against former president donald trump. in march, using truth social, a platform favored by trump, robertson said he would be traveling to new york to fulfill his dream of killing alvin bragg. the criminal complaint includes allegations more than two dozen other threats against vice president harris, prosecutors, and fbi agents. >> there is a line to be crossed, and clelearly this individual crossed that line, and that is why the fbi was there today. >> reporter: your neighbors tell cbs news robertson was active in his church, pro-second amendment, and someone known to have a "arsenal of weapons" in his own. a white house official says the president was briefed on the case this morning shortly after the shoot out. the secret service referred all questions on the case to the fbi. major? >> major: ed o'keefe, thank you. thunderstorms, baseball-sized hail and at least two tornadoes hit

the fbi gets alerted to him back in march because he is posting messages about killing alvin bragg the da who is prosecuting donald trump. clearly, he is a trump supporter. the fbi knows this. they go to his house. they talk to him. basically saying we're on to you. what are you doing? what's going on? they want to make sure he is not coming to new york to take action. there is no evidence he ever comes here but they were so worried they went there. then what he does is he continues to post facebook messages threatening the fbi agents who came to him. threatening others. continuing to threaten the president. he also made threats toward the vice president, the governor of california, gavin newsom, the attorney general, so this has been going on for months and months. what changes everything is he makes this post about killing the president while he is in utah. so that changed everything. >> just hours before biden was going to be briefed there, to arrive there. as we're talking about how this is happening, that president biden is set to arrive there, you know, thiss the post referenced,

alvin bragg called him a political hack linked to george soros.uesome detail, it described the plot to assassinate him in a parking garage. he also targeted new york attorney general letitia james, attorney general merrick garland, and california governor gavin newsom. joining us now is frank -- former fbi assistant director for counter intelligence and msnbc international security analyst. frank, thank you so much for being here. i just want to get your thoughts. let's first talk about the source, the mention of soros in their. you hear that a lot. you hear that a lot in right-wing conspiracy circles. i mean, to state the obvious, but can you talk to me about the linkage between what is happening there, how that is feeding the most violent corners of the universe, and folks like apparently this alleged would be assassins. >> sure. if you think you've seen this before, is because you have. it is a common theme, this concept that somebody is controlling the globe, controlling elections, and politics. it is all bad. they are vile, subhuman, salsa so

will alvin bragg keep himself first excuse myanmar 20th. the next one in may the mar-a-lago cases. this one, i don't know where this fits. and then what about when the law teams stand up and say i got so much to go through i'm going to need more time. then this thing called an election comes up. at what point do you say i have to pull back. >> steve: the change of venue to west virginia is a long shot. don't look for that to happen. this judge has already handled a bunch of january 6th stuff and well-versed in it. what is different about this time and this arraignment, when he appeared in downtown south florida he had a hotel down there the durrell country club. in new york, trump tower, bedminster about 25 miles to the west of us, so he had a place to stay. right now we believe he overnighted in bedminster. the idea is apparently the u.s. marshals are going to escort the plane once it arrives at national. he will probably be in that building 3:00 or 4:00 this afternoon, then he will be promptly processed. the big question is after the arraignment, will he return to bedminster like

typically the first to get filed has priority of going first, and that is the alvin bragg indictment out of new york scheduled for march. that seems realistic and that seems likely to go. we have the mar-a-lago case scheduled for may and we could see some movement there with the addition of the third defendant recently. jack smith is asking for a january trial which seems maybe a little aggressive, but if so that leaves room perhaps for fani willis to try this case sometime next summer. it will certainly be a bit of a challenge to find enough weeks in the year to have this, and in addition donald trump is of course running for president and he will no doubt use that as an effort to delay the trial, but i think what he is likely to hear is that every defendant who comes to court has other things going on in their lives that make it inconvenient for them to be there, and you don't get special dispensation just because you are running for president. if that were the case everybody could just declare their candidacy for the presidency in order to put off their trials. >> could you even h

attorney alvin bragg's investigation into hush money payments made during the 2016 campaign to stormyd an affair with trump. now, his legal team, todd blanche, susan nichols, and -- joe tacopina are going to have to defend the former president against charges that he was part of a conspiracy to undermine the integrity of the 2016 election. now, prosecutors are also alleging that he was part of an unlawful plan to suppress negative information, including a 130,000 dollar payment. now, let's go to florida, because there, a federal judge set may 20th as the scheduled trial date for trump. in a case charging him with illegally retaining hundreds of classified materials. his attorneys are todd blanche, hearing that name again, or do you? chris case and lindsay haugen. now, if that date, holds it means that we would be deep into the nominating calendar of the presidential run. and let's not forget that there is more, 250 million dollar civil trial in new york brought by new york a.g. laetitia james, that's set for october 2nd, 2023 and she's alleging fraud by, trump's oldest children, and a

alvin bragg. joining me now is investigative correspondent, tom winter. things. what happened? >> they have been conducting an investigation since march, according to charging documents and the search warrant, which we received, they started the investigation in march of this year. the fbi received a tip-off from a social media company, and it doesn't say which one. and we're in the process of trying to confirm the social media company saying, hey, this person, craig d. robertson of provo, utah, is saying things you might want to look into. the fbi looked into posts involving vice president harris, and alvin bragg. in the course of their investigation they say they went up to him, surveilled him, that he confirmed to them that he was who he was, that these were his posts. at some point, according to the charging documents, he says, hey, fbi, if you're still monitoring my posts know that i've got a gun by my side in case you want to come by again. he made a direct threat against president joe biden. on monday, later this afternoon, the president travels to

warrant on him after he allegedly threatened the president, the vice president, and manhattan da alvin bragg on line. >>> good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. we start in hawaii today where conditions are finally improving at least for the crews battling three powerful wildfires raging still on maui. at least 36 people are dead. officials say that number could soon rise as sunrise begins to reveal the extent of the devastation. survivors described the situation as apocalyptic. >> everyone i know is now homeless. in 36 hours, our town has been burned to ashes, nothing left. >> lahaina appears to have been burned incredibly bad. there are a lot of very terrible stories coming out of there. and i am bracing for the morning. >> unbelievable. it looks like baghdad or something. >> oh, my gosh. look -- oh, my gosh. >> the fast-moving fire took the island of maui by surprise. hospitals are overwhelmed, and 911 services are down in many areas. thousands of tourists and residents are still being evacuated today, including one group that got terrifying close to the flames. >> fire --

allegedly, but also the vice president, attorney general, the district attorney and manhattan, alvin bragg. do you feel like threats to public officials have gotten worse and what do you think is driving that? >> i think it is a combination of over proliferation of guns in our country. the real mental health illnesses that we are seeing, and social media. we say this over and over again. we had a summit here in new york, to see the impact of social media on our young people. young adults. those threats, the fbi, you have to really commend him for taking this seriously and carrying out a proper investigation. >> are you more nervous to be a publicly elected official today? >> you are always concerned. i have great detail. nypd know their job very well. we allow them to handle it, and to do what they tell us to do. we look at the instructions coming from our intel division when we get those threats, and we assess them well and make sure that things are done properly. >> new york city is dealing with an unprecedented influx of tens of thousands of people who are seeking asylum. you say, you s

as far as district attorney alvin bragg, he's addressed the threats.the time of trump's indictment on charges here in new york that there were a number of incidents including some involving white powder that was mailed to the manhattan district attorney's office. he spoke generally about this, not specific to this case, saying his primary concern or frontline staff, the employees that work for him that have to contend with this. he does have police -- a police detail. so as far as his security is concerned, that is being addressed. and obviously the president travels with secret service. >> this is a case very clearly that this person not only didn't mind being spotted but wanted authorities to know that he was planning out an assassination. >> right. so i think the important thing to remember here is the fbi did try to talk to him. when this case was opened in march. that typically happens. there are a number of cases, clint knows, over the course of a year with the secret service, fbi, or both, or local police departments will say jose, why you posti

alvin bragg in new york, it is a felony but it is a local case and not something that is likely to facetime for even if convicted. as far as the two federal indictments bought by jack smith, donald trump has a very novel path where he could potentially become the president or solicit help from any of the republican hopefuls in such a way that he ultimately pardons himself or select an a.g. who was willing to pardon him and dismissed the case. but with fani willis, he can't do any of that. with her bringing and indictment and with her indicating that it's going to be a legal case, basically, what that tells us is that there are going to be a slew of other defendants who like donald trump, have never been in this position before. and what's likely to happen, it's going to open the door to a last man standing, royal rumble of everyone throwing everyone else under the bus. more importantly, there's no pardon that he can do with respect to the charges in georgia. and that's why his next two weeks are so important. let's break this all down with someone who knows everything about trump world.

alvin bragg was shot and killed by the fbi and utah. and i one-on-one conversation with ceo mary barra. what she had to say about the economy. a.i., competition from china, in the future of electric vehicle, as the 11th hour gets underway on this wednesday night. >> good evening once again. i'm stephanie ruhle. we begin this evening with the scope of the special counsel jack smith's investigation into donald trump and new signs that it is still growing. the latest revelation that investigators executed a search warrant of donald trump's twitter account and the company had to be held in contempt by a federal judge before handing over the material. here is one former prosecutor on the kind of evidence that they must have been looking for. >> the twitter files that the justice department wants to retrieve clearly relate to that time period, right around the election. all those materials could be relevant. it's fairly typical for prosecutors to obtain social media from the platforms like twitter, like facebook and others. i think the only r

. >> you think i would go after alvin bragg?d the city out of control, you know what i mean? >> absolutely. >> you say all in. you say nothing should be off limits, it's just jokes, right? if anyone tells you speech, violence, what are they really telling you? i've never experienced violence. >> very anti- biden crowd. i get it, my concern is he's not going to understand the jokes anyway. the problem is, i speak english, i don't know that he does. >> mary, 40 some years, or should i make up on my standup? >> start acting like each other. >> you and your spouse are acting like each other? you walk around with a dog collar, too? relationship jokes, that's what you want to hear. something everybody can get i into. >> can i make fun of trump? >> absolutely. >> am i going to hear about it? >> it will be trending. [laughter] >> good for my career. >> really bad governor. >> your governor is a disaster. katie hobbs. maybe i should give katie hobbs sugar, some love? i tell a joke about arizona, how long will it take them to out of the r

but then they draw the line, and say only at federal level, that snaw nonsense, if alvin bragg or, fanican charge a person who is running for president, who might will be president of united states, not only interfering with election, which is horrific enough, if he is president of united states, we should a fani willis and alvin bragg have capacity to send nypd in or someone else remove him from oval office and put him in jail or fight like hell. for the same reason they say about federal charges? he can't give 100% to both, that is protecting his liberty and running the federal government. this is reverse federalism, this is a locale teo sta ity or tat straig state trying to cripple the government, it is wrong to say that president of united states is not pardon himself if he is charged or convicted outside of the federal legal process, that is nonsensical. if i'm wrong and the others are right, country is over. there are thousands and thousands of d.a.'s and assistant de' bu d.a.s and state prosecutors. remember, what is a prosecutor? a bureaucrat. i'm not talking about an elected, i

will: april 4th, manhattan da alvin bragg does indict donald trump.: he is being notified this one day. a week or two later. will: to june. in june there is no fbi the 1023 document is released for the public more recently in the past week or so to see what is in the 1023 document. a confidential informant talks about $10 million going from burisma to the bidens. pete: credible confidential source alleged through this 1023, 5 million for the big guy, 5 million to hunter, the fbi had been fighting hard for a long time, this should not be released to congress, don't want anybody to know about it. june 7th, the next day. jack smith indicts trump in the mar-a-lago documents case. documents over here of a confidential source, documents over here and another case against donald trump. will: a week ago, july 26th, hunter biden's plea deal collapses, a judge says agreeing there's other investigations, other charges and it will be swept away with this plea deal. the whole deal collapsed. pete: a staggering moment. it was supposed to get swept under the rug, th

alvin bragg's hush money investigation. the dea -- dea bragg's response to that was that it was not appropriate for congress to interfere with pending legal investigations. that fight as escalated when bragg -- block republican demands for testimony and information from mr. bragg's office. bragg only drop that suit after reaching a settlement agreement with congressman jim jordan. joining me now is just mcintosh, democratic strategist and former -- hillary clinton campaign. and michael steele, former chair of the national committee. thank you for being here on this historic night. >> it has been a night. >> so we have seen, jess, the release of a mugshot of a former president united states. the simon of an inmate numbers had former president of united states. we are now seen said former president of the united states return to social media, twitter, acts, whatever you want to call it. he is tweeting out the mugshot. republicans have been tweeting their own mugshots in solidarity in the hours previous to this one. can the wa

alvin bragg sued us and we went to court and the court ruled for us. be just as aggressive here. do it within the constitution, but we will get the answers the american people deserve for this ridiculous indictment in georgia. >> sean: james comer, joe biden lied at least 16 times with his family's business schemes. there were numerous trips that hunter biden took with his dad. as a result he was making business deals. did we pay for those? >> it looks like we paid for all of them. the president lied about how many times he son flew with him on air force ii. it's taken a long time to get that information out. there was over a dozen times. >> sean: 13 times? >> yes. over a dozen times. these are not business deals. these were shakedowns. sean. this is where they go and try to sell access to joe biden. they are selling access to some of the worst people in the worst countries in the world. the whole brand as archer testified in an interview was joe biden. hunter biden needed to be seen with joe biden and put joe biden on the phone. he needed to be copied

he said it about alvin bragg, about fani willis. it will be one of the rhetorical themes he returns to. it's disgusting in the way that a lot of -- >> republican governor. you have an echo of that in texas with greg abbott. you have republican governors who look at their urban centers. saying we need to take over the management of your water system or your prison system. >> we are election board in harris county texas. >> that rhetoric is more than rhetoric. it's operationalized. it's a state after state in which you have republican gerrymandered state legislatures view municipal local governments with skepticism in contempt, but you are not actually allowed to do these things for yourself, and we will tell you how it's done. we have seen it happen in tennessee, where the state legislature has gone after the national city council. we've seen it in texas. we've seen it in wisconsin. this is a common theme. there is something that really epitomizes everything they loathe and fear about the figure of fani lewis. >> laura, in terms of f

it was alvin bragg.er all threaten they thought indicting him on classified docs, or mar-a-lago. whoops it turns outs biden had classified documents as well. they were near the corvette. now we have the fulton county d.a. using ricco statutes. hoping to flip witnesses to turn against trump but all the while trump persisted. he just decided to keep going. remember they call him the energizer bunny? it's for a reason. look at the polling today. the real clear politics average has him at 53%. closest one to him is desantis. right now he is at 13%. that's the national polling. democrats and never trumpers know he is the inevitable nominee so they are getting contingency plans in place. next up on their list? the 1st amendment. >> section 3 of the 14th amendment presents a clear and unequivocal statement that anyone who is sworn an oath of office, who engage in insurrection or rebellion, never serve again. donald trump is disqualified just as if he were running and not a born u.s. citizen. >> laura: never for

>> it'll be joe biden and it'll be totally motivated and the prosecutor in georgia is just like alvin braggnd ran for the spot and talk about the legality of her case but the fact is she ran on get tram and now that's what she's trying to therefor. stuart: i don't think voter wills perceive it to be fair and that's the basic thing going on, that's me, it's not fair. >> i think you're right. the question is there's this whole group of moderates, what are they going to think about the circus you mentioned? they may not think any is right but may say i don't want any of it period. again, i think that's actually what democrats are banking on. they think when push comes to shove, if there's a big enough circus, i'll stick with the guy in office right now. that's not good nor america by the way. that's the calculus of democrats. stuart: the new york times suggests nobody want as biden trump rematch in 2024. the quote, an era defined by discord, that's one issue when voters are divided across the political landscape appear to be able to find common ground. please, not another round of this. i thin

you mentioned the threat he made in march against alvin bragg in new york.what initiated the fbi's investigative interest when they received a tip from a social media company that brought that threat to their attention. so this wasn't the normal chatter that you hear in the run-up to an event that might include a politician or a president. this was someone they were already concerned about and then they started talking about acting out against the president in this tip and i'm sure that fwrazed everyone's concern to the absolute highest levels. what goes through your mind, and they're all included in this 49-page complaint that was just issued by the united states attorney against this defendant, fred robinson. what goes through your mind, directly threatening the fbi with a loaded gun. >> wolf, it's a remarkable document. as said, pete threats and i, i think what really strike treks me how serious it is for law enforcement can particularly the fbi rid now to be in this realm, in the social media space trying to understand who actually presents a threat to o

alvin bragg's case is considered the least credible and the least important of them all, i think it's fair to say, among legal experts. >> i certainly agree with that. i think there's a game of dominos that will happen here. alvin bragg has made a point of hinting, maybe a bit more than that, in his public interviews that he would be willing to consider moving off that date. it's not solely up to the prosecutor. if he did want to move, he would have to go to his state judge in new york and ask to move that trial. i think if judge chutkan and jack smith's team needed that time, there's a compelling argument to go into the court on the hush money case and say let's put this off. >> let me ask you about the social media post from trump about geoff duncan, he was reading reports that duncan was going to testify before the grand jury. and trump writes, quote, he shouldn't, unquote. is that witness intimidation or tampering? >> absolutely yes, in my opinion. i don't see any gray area. if you look at the law, it says any attempt to influence or intimidate someone in order to try to influence

alvin bragg, new york ag letitia james, fulton county da fani willis.ve all received racist threats. meanwhile, fulton county sheriff patrick labat, who is also black, said tuesday the former president would not receive any special treatment if trump is indicted in georgia where he is being investigated for election interference. "it doesn't matter your status, we have mugshots ready for you." a key part of the election interference charges trump faces relate to a civil war era rights law that protects the right of citizens to have their votes counted. for more, we go to atlanta where we are joined by carol anderson, professor at emory university, author of many books. welcome back to democracy now! it is great to have you with us. it why don't you respond to the overall indictment and president appearance yesterday in the washington, d.c. court pleading not guilty. carol: the indictment was a long time coming. it reaffirmed the belief in the rule of law, which it looks like for so long that he would be able to once again escape the consequences, being

investigation robertson for five months after he allegedly made threats against manhattan district attorney alvin bragg and u.s. attorney general merrick garland as well as more than two dozen threats against vice president kamala harris. >> in terms of extreme, this is about as extreme as you can get. >> reporter: robertson showed off his weapons in some social media posts but neighbors say the 74-year-old couldn't have carried out the threats. he needed a cane to walk. we know the fbi will continue the review and investigation. the president was briefed on the shootings. in washington, skyler henry, amanda, back to you. >> thank you so much. >>> a new safety feature is being rolled out. it's only available in san francisco. >>> pumpkin spice in the summer? what are you talking about? sounds strange. >>> inflation appears to be easing in the u.s. in july, overall consumer prices rose 3.2% from a year earlier, slightly higher than june but lower than last year's peek of 9.1. from june of this year to july, food prices went up .2%. the federal reserve will look at the data. let's see where the markets a

when manhattan district attorney alvin bragg charge trump with the hush bunny money payments in 2016just said he was a rogue local prosecutor out to get trump for something that happened a long time ago. but when the president ex president was caught with boxes of classified documents, they said the national prosecutor, not a local prosecutor, but this was the justice part being weaponized by joe biden. what about joe biden's garage? and when that same special counsel jack smith brought the second federal indictment against trump for trying to steal the 2020 election, they said he was trying to take away the ex presidents first amendment rights. now that he's been prosecuted in georgia under the racketeering statute, not the weaponized biden justice department, now we're back to another rogue prosecutor going after him for political reasons for political jurisdiction. when you put it all together it's ludicrous. it's obviously plainly reverse engineered around defending donald trump overall else. we know that. the people offering these defendant defenses know that. to lindsey graham

it's we didn't bring that case and the answer isn't why did cy vance didn't bring it, why did alvin braggide to bring it? we weren't focusing on the pattern of larger fraud in terms of his business affairs and so divergent investigations. >> still 78 charges. >> yeah. >> over the course of 3. potentially soon to be four indictments. it's remarkable time in history. >> i don't -- it's remarkle that one person can be indicted three times in four months and maybe four times in four months, that's hard thing to get done, so the president has real challenges in front of him obviously, he thinks that he can bluff his way out of it and the courts i think, what's going to happen in court is the most important, what happens in the public now you'll have divergent opinions. but once the judges get their hands on the cases a lot of the nonsense stops. >> cy vance, very important and fascinating moment in history. appreciate your time, sir. >> yeah. >>> u.s. markets taking a tumble after credit ratings agency fitch downgraded the u.s. debt for the first time in 11 years. they announced another major

alvin bragg and attorney general merrick garland, including those two, i note that because these areeing cases against donald trump currently. which leads me to wonder, what level of concern do you have that there could be more like this as cases against donald trump continue moving towards trial? >> kate, i'm confident that the multiple cases, investigations, what will ultimately be trialed of donald trump, will continue to really fire up the most extreme portion of his supporters. you know, he also made threats about letitia james, made threats about gavin newsom, who is an outspoken trump critic. and let's be clear. president trump's own rhetoric targeting these people, showing his supporters who he dislikes, airing out his own grievances, that has an encouraging impact on people who are prone to violence. it's reckless to engage in that sort of speech, but that's what former president trump does. >> scary. good to see you, andy. thank you very much. john. >> thanks so much. >>> a new report on the wide range of trips and perks enjoyed by supreme court justice clarence thomas, ban

he was able to find donors who were willing to give to him back when the alvin bragg, the d.a.s been able to fund raise off of the indictments and off of the mugshot last week. that could continue, especially with grassroots support. i'm not sure about the big donors, but to jeremy's point, i wonder as reporters, you know, a year from now what we will be talking about because i wonder if voters are going to get fatigued after a while. these dates are getting real. they're bumping into each other. they're part of the cycle right now. just your average american is going to say i'm going to look at some of these other candidates. to your point about people staying in longer, that's a wise thing to look at. this is going to impact pretty much everybody in the field and also biden a bit. they're all going to have to comment on whatever comes from the court cases. the federal ones won't be televised but georgia will and whatever news comes out of that the candidates have to respond to. >> two things can be true. it can generate enthusiasm among his supporters, bring in more money, an