crimes of the russian military against civilians in the occupied territories. let's talk with alyona olenovae advocacy manager of the human rights center, change. she's on the phone with us ms. alyona, we welcome you. see . please tell me. if we talk about this situation, it's directly. well, it's interpreted as a crime, a war crime, in particular, they on the same level as the crimes of the second world war, these concentration camps, please tell me, let's talk now, not about the theory . to act in the territory of the occupier when you were forcibly deported and is it even realistic in such conditions to return to the motherland of the territory of the russian federation and she does not have identity documents, this is one or 11 stories if all the documents are in order, actually all that needs to be done is to find contacts or friends of acquaintances or volunteers who can help to get to the border with any european country with which it borders the russian federation, it can be estonia, lithuania , latvia, it can be finland, if it is available to the location of the person or it could b