it's fascinating we've heard people like alyssa farah and cassidy hutchinson say they heard trump admit acknowledged that he lost the election. others have said this we don't hear it. >> we don't hear the audio of it very much. and he seems to catch himself after saying he lost the election. take us in that moment, what was the light? >> thank you. thank you so much for having me on my book is based on six interviews i conducted with donald trump after he left the white house starting in 2021. >> this was from de we spent together in august of 2021. we were actually in a boardroom in trump tower and i was showing him clips of the apprentice and having him recall some of his memories of the contestants and her aldo was one of the contestants on the celebrity apprentice, and one of the arguments in my book is that donald trump views the world through the prism of reality tv. and in fact, he still sees himself in a lot of ways as a reality tv star. when he said to me that he lost the election. and you can hear the inflection is voice. if you go back and re-listen to it on your dvr, dvr. he

i'm joined by democratic strategists and consultants simon rosenberg and alyssa farah the griffin cnn political commentator and former white house communications director for donald trump. all right. i'm gonna start with you, simon, the supreme court decision on mifepristone it basically leaves things as they were. so that it is available to women around the country. but in a round about way, does this help donald trump? do you think? >> first of all, welcome back, sara it's great to have you back i think the no, i don't think any of this helps donald trump. i mean, because donald trump will be in this election the person who's singularly responsible for stripping the rights and freedoms away. the women of the united states, i mean, women today, many, tens of millions of women today in the united states have fewer rights and freedoms than people women who live in mexico or brazil. i mean, there's been a huge backsliding in america on fundamental rights and freedoms. and what the president is still supporting is this notion that it's okay for politicians to decide about reproductive fr

karen finney, alyssa farah griffin. thanks so much coming up next, we're waiting for new video. vladimir putin's visit with kim jong un we'll bring them to you as we get them and dig deeper into why they're meaning could spell so yet, more misery for people in ukraine. and later another close associated don't trump is charged with a crime. boris epstein, who was always with donald trump during his new york felony trial. he has now been rain today in arizona, nine felony counts of his own. what he's charged with. and as boston silage role in the alleged scheme you pain shouldn't be minimized or forgotten when medicine gets better all of us can get better oh, cornea zelda, it's gotten me. >> i saw them. that's what i said. >> godden and saada got got to me, juicy gotten salah i did. >> and use holes. you don't roll on rows you do you saw someone to feel like this man, you would get the light back device, you keeping your car in this very reason i'm arthur lee, inventor of light back, which is made right here in the usa just place push and pull. it's that simple yeah, body my facts

political sources, cnn, political commentator and former trump white house communications director alyssa farah griffin and democratic strategists, julie rogan, ski and former new york city mayor bill to blogs you as well. glad to have all of you here. >> but alyssa, just hearing that that moment there at the end before trump was calling steve bannon on his podcasts where he was talking about what this revenge tour is going to look like. >> an end is quote, was that everyone is going to be investigated, prosecuted, and incarcerated, specifically naming top officials of the doj or people like the special counsel, jack smith what did you make of that as someone who used to work with steve bannon? >> yeah. i mean, listen, donald trump's made clear that a second term is gonna be about rage and retribution. he's laid out who he's going to go after now, steve bannon as this figure who was very close early in the first trump administration was on the outs and his back on the inside and he's one of these outside voices that i think trump's sees a sort of a liveness test. he's gauges him as somebody who

i think they want to get in we'll see if they do on thursday night, alyssa farah griffin, david polantz, and david ox or eid. >> thank you. all in the lead up to that debate, i should note house speaker mike johnson is going to join me live here on the source term for night. you don't want to miss that. that's gonna be at 9:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. but first up next is the most expensive primary race that i was just talking about in american history. it's also now one of the most contentious and my source right after this break is what? the candidates who is in the middle of that madness the cockroach resilient creek just truly miracles of evolution, where there is one others aren't far behind scavenging for food. >> the cockroach will now that's horrifying hey ortho home defense, max enduring sec barrier. >> one application kills and prevents bugs for 365 days at my house asked you down nature's wild. >> your home doesn't have to be this is our night shingles, doesn't care, but she bricks drug techs only shingo has proven over 90% effective shingles vaccine used to prevent shingles

conviction. >> i think they want to get in your head. >> we will see if they do on thursday night, alyssa farah griffin, david boolean, ski, and david ox or i. thank you all in the lead up to that debate, i should note house speaker mike johnson is going to join me live here on the boris two our knife. you don't want to miss that. that's gonna be at 9:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. but first up next is the most expensive primary race. i was just talking about in american history. it's also now one of the most contentious and my source. all right. after this break is one of the candidates who is in the middle of that madness debate in america as biden and trump meet. >> and only cnn has come complete coverage with unrivaled access and exclusive pre and post a bag analysis. follows cnn for every countless moment followed debate night in america, thursday at seven people yeah. okay. yeah, we got orders coming starting and business is never easy, the star eight months pregnant, that's a different story. >> i couldn't slow down. we were starting my business from the ground up people were showing up, l

. >> alyssa farah griffin who was trump's communications director, posted yesterday and said that youn trump suggested executing the person who leaked information that he went to the white house bunker when those george floyd protests were happening outside the white house. do you remember that? >> i remember him being very mad about that. i don't remember him saying executing, but i wouldn't dispute it. it doesn't sound -- the president would lose his temper and say things like that. i doubt he would have actually carried it out. >> just to clarify, that is from april, but he's responding to the same set of facts. this excusing of trump is kind of the way that it's gone. the people who have been around him, like bill barr, who still want to be viable, they make excuses, but this seems to be a pretty serious national security issue, no? >> really glad you focused on this particular moment, joy. remember, then-president trump was indeed livid at the idea that there were press reports by "the new york times" and by myself at "the washington post" indicating that trump had been rushed to

pattern and what is so unique is everything else was a witness, kathy hutchinson testifies to it, alyssa farah testified to walking into the oval office to check on trump and that's when he mutters, i can't believe i lost to this guy but you have it on tape and i'm going to read, to our audience, trump's response to this part of the book in this revelation that we were going to play the tape, this is his campaign spokesman. >> after recognizing the importance of the apprentice, and trump's remarkable role in forever changing the landscape of entertainment, this writer has chosen to allow trump derangement syndrome to rot his brain like so many other losers whose entire existence revolves around trump. what is noticeable is what is not in there, the dog that doesn't bark. no denial that trump knows that he lost. >> it's notable and it's also part of the performance art. that's a crazy statement that you would expect from a reality star who engages in feuds, creates false narratives, it was also interesting that the story of why he and geraldo had a falling out. it traces back to the fact that a

i think most voters know that alyssa farah griffin is also with us. alyssa, i want you in our viewers to listen to the house speaker mike johnson's reaction earlier today to this verdict. listen to this mr. speaker, you've been saying two-tiered system of justice for some time. here's the president sayyed being convicted on three counts as that undercut your client it doesn't every case is different and clearly the evidence is overwhelming here. i don't think that's the case and the trump trials and all the charges that have and brought against couldn't have been obviously brought for political purposes. a hunter biden is a separate instance does this verdict elicit take the steam out of the republicans baseless claims about the weaponization of the us justice department of course, while it absolutely undercut said just taking a step back, we're in uncharted territory here were the same department of justice that indicted donald trump in the mar-a-lago documents case. and in the january 6 case, also just convicted the sitting president, son of a crime

. >> alyssa farah griffin, his journey as well alyssa typically, as you know, a sitting president is the one that often has trouble defending his or her record during a debate like this. but the new biden campaign ad on abortion, for example, shows how they want to put trump on the defensive. what do you make of that i think that democrats know their strongest issue is an abortion. >> donald trump bears responsibility for robing pulled back. but what i would say is, the winner of this debate is going to be who can substantively talk about the key issues americans cared about, the economy, immigration, health care, and do it in a forward-looking manner. so it's not just about re-litigating your record, whether you're biden or trump, but presenting a vision to the undecided americans who still somehow exist out there of what your plan is and being the adult in the room, the person who doesn't lose their temper, who doesn't get rattled. and there's so many variables here. the know audience of this, the fact that it's really just going to be a room with the moderators and the candidate t

alyssa farah testified to walking into the oval office to check on trump and that's when he is watching television and saying i can't believe i lost to the sky. but you have it on tape. and i wonder, you know, i'm going to read to our audience, trump's response to this part of the book and this revelation that we were going to play the tape this is his campaign spokesperson. after recognizing the importance of the apprentice, it's a significant cultural impact on a global scale, and trump's remarkable role in forever changing the landscape of entertainment, this writer has now chosen to allow trump derangement syndrome to rot his brain like so many other looters losers whose entire existent rolls around trump. what is notable is what is not in the car right? the dog that doesn't bark. no denial that trump knows he lost. >> it is notable and it is also part of the performance art, right. that is outrageous, over-the- top, crazy statement that you would expect from a reality stars. calls people's names, makes up names, creates false narratives it was also interesting about this moment was

now, to former trump white house communications director alyssa farah griffins saying president trump often talked about executing people at white house meetings. griffin highlighted an april interview from former attorney general bill barr where he was asked if he remembered a time when trump called for a leaker to be executed. here's what he told cnn. >> alyssa farah griffin, trump's communications director, posted yesterday and said that you were present at a moment when trump suggested executing the person who leaked information, that he went to the white house bunker when the george floyd protests were happening outside of the white house. do you remember that? >> i remember him being very mad about that. i actually don't remember him saying executing, but, you know, i wouldn't dispute it. you know, it doesn't sound -- the president would lose his temper and say things like that. i doubt he would have actually carried it out, you know. >> but he would say that on other occasions? >> you know, the president had -- i think people sometimes took him too literally and, you know, he w

former democratic congressman max rows and the former trump white house communications director, alyssa farah griffin. >> i'm actually you hear larry talk about this when he's saying he was i thought it was very he really explained it. >> he said it's not just casual conversations where it comes up. some people actually calling with this, that he senses a greater sense of anxiety and paranoia among democrats than republicans. and i know you're not necessarily hearing the same thing, but people are hearing get from the party. here are two people very well-known individuals expressing this concern yeah, sure. >> i'm sure there's just a lot of concern about the age issue and that is something that i think he needs to ponder. just do a check and say, is this the right thing to do? >> there's so much talent and a lot of it is young and vigorous and energetic. i thought i'd biden present. biden could consider not run a fair election, but that's not the charge that he made. >> what do you say to them and those party insiders who are calling larry sabato, you know, it's interesting because what the r

asna's republican strategist, got jennings and former trump white house communications director alyssa farah griffin evan, you've reported and spent a lot of time with frozen biden over the years. how does he prepare mentally emotionally? 4 big moments like this? >> he does a lot of preparation. he can write down to the last minute. he'll be marking up a speech in this case, of course, there's no speech really this is not about stuffing your head full of facts and figures. this part of the process is about poise, getting enough command and comfort with what's about to happen that when you get up on stage, you are comfortable lasing those facts into your comments and let's face it also preparing for whatever it is donald trump's going to try to do to get under your skin and we know for a fact as mj mentioned earlier, that they have got to helping him try to visualize the space that's very important. even all the way back in 1960, richard nixon didn't really have a good sense the room and a debate. he spent too much time looking at the clock. people thought he didn't look enough into the camer

as seen in political commentator, and trump's former white house communicate patients director alyssa farahi just want everyone to listen to what the attorney general wisconsin had to say about why they're bringing these charges now but i will say that our focus in any investigation in any prosecution is not on the speed with which something is done. its undoing high-quality investigations, conducting high-quality prosecutions, and getting things right. that's the approach we have taken defending the timeline here. >> but what do you make? how long it took to bring these charges? >> that's boiler play. i expect that if any prosecutor, but it's also completely unconvincing. it took three-and-a-half years to bring these charges. i mean, it's three-and-a-half years ago that this all happened. he's been the ag throughout that time. he's been ag since 2019. i understand. investigations take time. i've done plenty of investigations. there is no way an investigation yielding these three charges should have taken three-and-a-half years. and by the way, if you look at the indictment, most of that ma

spectrum now for mercy and political commentators and contributors, bacardi sellers, david urban, alyssa farah griffin biden, biographer evan osnos, former republican congressman adam kinzinger, who endorsed president biden just two days ago. evan, first of all, what is your reaction to this call from the new york times that had turiel board for the president to drop out i mean, it's significant it is not the kind of thing that the times does lightly. it's pretty rare to think of last time that the new york times has called for a democratic president to step aside from his reelection attempt. but i also think if you're trying to understand what's going on inside joe biden's world right now inside his mind, i think you've got a pretty clear sense of that today when he got up and he said, in this crowd in north carolina and he said, when you get knocked down, you get back up for him. that is an idea that is way more than just a sort of bromide that you might throw around. this is kind of his central political entre, and it's been a part of his life for very long time. the question now is, does h

political sources joins me here tonight at the table, former trump white house communications director alyssa farah griffin, former new york city mayor, built-up lazio and former republican congressman lee zelda. >> and great to have you all here. i wanted obviously this is kind of standard in the sense that they want to make sure they know everything about these candidates. it's kinda like a secure 30 clearance type form, which i know you had to fill out. but what do you wake up more though requisite. >> do they also want someone else who's committed a crime with a convicted felon on the ticket? unclear to me, i still think it's remarkable less than the uncharted territory that we're in. you cannot work in the west wing. i could not have worked in the west wing if i'd ever had a felony charge, yet, there's a very real chance we'll have a president overseeing the west wing who has 33 or 34 felony charges on him? >> yeah. >> that's a good point. i mean, what do you make of that question? have you ever lied, you know, kind of what this process is looking like for these potential confounders look, i g

karen finney, alyssa farah griffin. thanks so much coming up next, we're waiting for new video. vladimir putin's visit with kim jong un will bring them to you as we get them and dig deeper into why they're meeting it could spell so yet more misery for people in ukraine and later another close associate of donald trump's charged with a crime, boris epstein, who was always with donald trump during his it's new york felony trial. he has now been arraigned today in arizona, nine felony counts of his own. what he's charged with. and as boston silage role in the alleged scheme you may like it never even happened serve pro number space and leg room that's more like it three role. rolex's dx every day moore dog people and more vets are deciding it's time for a fresh approach to pet food they're quitting the kibble and kicking the camps and feeding their dogs, dog food. >> that's actually well, food developed with that's made from real meat and veggies portion and for your dog and delivered right to your door. >> it's smarter healthier, pet food, get 50% off your first box at the farmer'